Tecton vs shift

[riff]

I’m sure it’s been whaled on somewhere but search function sucks. I’ve got some heavy but awesome skis, got a midweek pass for the first time in a few years this season. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, which of these should i put on a 2400gm 118 waist charger that will see a dozen days of lift and side country use? Here’s what I come up with-

Tecton pros: i can use them with my current “adequate “ touring boots. Cons: fiddly, maybe not as good for descending.

Shift pros: maybe stouter? Maybe better downhill behavior? Cons: Need new MNC boots. Questionable track record. Also fiddly.

Neutral/equal- both plastic. Both overly complex, but perhaps worth it to not destroy my connective tissues.

School me


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[cat in january]

I had a Evo toe (same as tecton) fail on me by failing to disengage. I had to partially destroy the toe to get the ski off. Prior to that I had toes fail, side to side movement and heels, moved rearward. In ski mode. Just one data point. I love the concepts, but can not trust the product.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Tectons are fine. Not fiddly ime. I can switch between Tectons and STH and can’t really tell the difference.


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[turnfarmer]

Trab TR1 appears to fit right in between these two-

https://skimo.co/ski-trab-tr1-bindings

[auvgeek]

Trab TR1 appears to fit right in between these two-

https://skimo.co/ski-trab-tr1-bindings

hohh dang! That’s sick. No longer need special heel inserts. Dope.

I would pick those or Cast.

[kid-kapow]

This sounds like a prime candidate for the new version Cast is about to release.

To your specific question - both are good bindings. Tectons are the better choice if you'll tour more than ski the resort, Shifts are better if it is the other way around. Shifts are not as fickle as some would have you believe, as long as the settings are correct. I have tons of days on both and like both.

Shift v2 is coming for next year.

Also, ATK is about to release a Tecton killer supposedly. It will be expensive as all hell, but could be the golden ticket for lots of skiers.

But again, I would go Cast - that'a where I ended up after first going Tecton, then Shift, then doing the sensible thing because of FOMO.

[plugboots]

This sounds like a prime candidate for the new version Cast is about to release.

To your specific question - both are good bindings. Tectons are the better choice if you'll tour more than ski the resort, Shifts are better if it is the other way around. Shifts are not as fickle as some would have you believe, as long as the settings are correct. I have tons of days on both and like both.

I prolly agree. I would never lug a Shift on a tour, so I don’t own one, but my Tectons are my “heavy” touring option.

[Tjaardbreeuwer]

What boots do you have that work with Tectons and not Shifts? The only thing I could think is some kind of Dynafit shark nose? But those would have too short of heel lug I’d think?

Most boots I can think of that have a full heel lug, also have the full ISo 9523 touring sole.

[turnfarmer]

Trab TR1 appears to fit right in between these two-

https://skimo.co/ski-trab-tr1-bindings

[riff]

I kind of assumed the heels would work ok, I really don’t keep up with the various standards. I’m in a skorpius.


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[riff]

For the record I generally tour 110 days a year or so on much more reasonable and simple kits, this is just a way to get more out of my heavy skis. I saw some tectons here for $250, and I have a line on local shifts for $100 in decent shape. New shiny stuff looks good but for as much as these will get used, probably stick to used stuff.


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[plugboots]

For the record I generally tour 110 days a year or so on much more reasonable and simple kits, this is just a way to get more out of my heavy skis. I saw some tectons here for $250, and I have a line on local shifts for $100 in decent shape. New shiny stuff looks good but for as much as these will get used, probably stick to used stuff.


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This is exactly why I bought Tectons for my Lhasa Pows. I skied the Lhasa’s seven days straight @ Jackson Hole inbounds when the snow was soft and I couldn’t tell the difference from my Pivots. Well may be a little bit on getting into them out of the tram.

[nyskirat]

Shift v2 is coming for next year.

Also, ATK is about to release a Tecton killer supposedly. It will be expensive as all hell, but could be the golden ticket for lots of skiers.

No one asked for more info on these? COme on.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

For the record I generally tour 110 days a year or so on much more reasonable and simple kits, this is just a way to get more out of my heavy skis. I saw some tectons here for $250, and I have a line on local shifts for $100 in decent shape. New shiny stuff looks good but for as much as these will get used, probably stick to used stuff.


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Like plug says, Tectons work and as much as you tour they would be the best choice for occasional lift served on powder days. I have my Tectons on Renegades but I’m switching them over to an undrilled pair of Lhasas that I scored here. I won’t tour on them a lot but will use them on powder days and side country laps and as a travel ski.


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[Going Coastal]

I have been skiing Tectons inbounds for 2 seasons on BG110s, so primarily soft snow duty. I have had no durability issues and I've figured out that getting out of the binding is easier when the heel is released first instead of just using the toe lever, which I have also found to be the case with Vipecs. It was awkward at first, but I'm used to it now. I honestly dont ski so aggressively to where I fall alot at this point in my life, but I recall they released as expected when I have so I think its just getting enough leverage on the ski/walk lever or something.

For tourability, Tectons are lighter, you dont have to hold the pins open to clip in, they have 2 risers instead of 1, the risers seem easier to operate, and you dont need to take the ski off to transition if you can remove skins with your skis on.

I have never skied the Shifts, so cant speak to any of their attributes but I know people that are happy with them and people that are disappointed, most of the disappointed ones use them more for touring, and most of the happy ones tour sparingly. I know one person that had issues with pre-release, so he epoxied the AFD height and that fixed it.

[Buster Highmen]

The weird thing about Tectons for me is that I seem to have to step "flat" into the binding. Other than that, they've been great on piste and off.

My G3 Ions are more lenient when it comes to stepping in at a ramp, toepiece first.

[kid-kapow]

No one asked for more info on these? COme on.

I have no more info sadly.

Shift V2 pics are already out there in the 24/25 thread on here or NS I believe.

The new ATK binding is supposedly the reason Schirmer signed with ATK (after Dynafit have promised but failed to deliver on the same type of binding in spite of trying to make one for quite a while supposedly - I have no clue) - other than the fact that the Rotation is a piece of shite doing the job of a binding from ATK at nearly half its weight

[MagnificentUnicorn]

The weird thing about Tectons for me is that I seem to have to step "flat" into the binding. Other than that, they've been great on piste and off.

My G3 Ions are more lenient when it comes to stepping in at a ramp, toepiece first.

What do you mean by flat


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[SupreChicken]

Trab TR1 appears to fit right in between these two-

https://skimo.co/ski-trab-tr1-bindings

Any word on ramp? Toe height vs heel height?

Edit - i guess same questions about the shift 2.0

[LeeLau]

Article. Tecton vs Shift https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...news/amp/51021

[Buster Highmen]

What do you mean by flat


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Sole of boot parallel to surface of ski

[stuntmanbo]

After skiing a lot of bindings, I’ve come to the conclusion that I’ll take ATK R/FR (with freeride spacers) even for big heavy skis, even for minor sidecountry.


Shifts there are too many prerelease horror stories that are scary plus the brakes are releasing in tour mode for me.


I don’t see the point lugging heavy bindings like this anymore. It’s too heavy even for short tours.


I already own the same pair of skis twice, one pair in STH2, the other one in ATK R/FR, and I’m planning to do it again for another 2 pairs.


@kidkapow any more infos on the ATK binding ? There was a video of one shown at ispo like 5 years ago, is that the one ?

[TahoeJ]

Tectons. /thread

[Tjaardbreeuwer]

I kind of assumed the heels would work ok, I really don’t keep up with the various standards. I’m in a skorpius.


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skorpius has a norm sole (surprising for such a light , minimal boot) so Shift or any other bindings will work.

So if it’s between $100 for Shifts and $250 for Tectons, I’d pick based on how much touring you’d do in them.

Do you have other touring skis in the same category, but with lighter bindings? Save $150 and get the Shifts, easy alpine style step in is nice the resort too.

Don’t have any comparable skis with light bindings? go Tecton. given your use of light, basic bindings for touring the rest of the time, I think the Shift’s would bug you for any serious touring.

[twat]

Tecton