AI is your new master ....

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It's all good, just put tape over your laptop camera.

[Rasputin]

....and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Rev. 17:8

[SKIP IN7RO]

beset on all sides ezk2517

[ötzi]

Well the orange one is the antichrist, we all know that much. I guess it's the end times again.

[huckbucket]

9 months ago
https://twitter.com/i/status/1742422683369738595

Today
https://twitter.com/i/status/1741271106374230287

[PB]

Not sure if AI can f it up any more than we have.

[Toadman]

Well the orange one is the antichrist, we all know that much. I guess it's the end times again.

Not again! This is getting exhausting.

[huckbucket]

This is pretty nuts.

https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1743146951749533897

[Bunion 2020]

Or terrifying

[climberevan]

I follow the developments in AI more closely than some of my family & friends, and talking to them is like being on the beach when a 100ft tsunami is visible on the horizon and they remain totally unaware. The world is seriously not ready for what this stuff is going to bring us in the next few years.

[climberevan]

I follow the developments in AI more closely than some of my family & friends, and talking to them is like being on the beach when a 100ft tsunami is visible on the horizon and they remain totally unaware. The world is seriously not ready for what this stuff is going to bring us in the next few years.

[huckbucket]

In the Hindi one, AI introduced the little foible with the microphone. That's the shit that gets me. Why did it do that? Did it think the vid would feel more authentic? Did it see another vid previously where that happened? Even if so, why use that learning in this instance?

[basinbeater]

I thought the Westworld vision was interesting and a possible landing spot. The wealthy basically let him run things and keep them on top of the pile. All the peons lives are gamed out in advance, while the Uber wealthy go around fucking shit up while the ultimate ai takeover happens almost without people even knowing it happened. I think that's what happened in the show.

[fomofo]

I follow the developments in AI more closely than some of my family & friends, and talking to them is like being on the beach when a 100ft tsunami is visible on the horizon and they remain totally unaware. The world is seriously not ready for what this stuff is going to bring us in the next few years.

That's a very good way of framing things. Whatever the effects of Moore's Law did to change life as we know it over the past 60 years is child's play compared to that coming wave of change.

P.S.

[Dantheman]

Between those who want full steam ahead* to make as much money as possible, and those true believers who want to usher in the next stage of evolution as soon as possible, things have definitely gotten a bit scary at this point. Most of us here will probably (hopefully?) be gone by the time the worst shit hits the fan, but it would be interesting to see what the world looks like in 50 years.

Not a big Rogan fan at this point, but there are some interesting conversations on his show from time to time. Worth an embed.



*Ain't anachronisms grand? Do you feel like one yet?

I held my nose and listened to this episode. Thankfully, like their previous appearance on JRE Tristan and Aza do 95% of the talking. I'm not aware of any other recent long-format interviews with them, so it was worth listening to.

I follow the developments in AI more closely than some of my family & friends, and talking to them is like being on the beach when a 100ft tsunami is visible on the horizon and they remain totally unaware. The world is seriously not ready for what this stuff is going to bring us in the next few years.

Great analogy. The smartphone almost completely reshaped society in a decade and this is going to pale in comparison.

[east or bust]

This is pretty nuts.

https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1743146951749533897

How do we even know if that is really AI?

This is going to open up pandora’s box of he said she said plausible deniability.

Shit, it is going to be the ultimate propaganda tool. Imagine adversary countries showing their citizens “real” videos of the US president or citizens saying things they never did…

[Dantheman]

Imagine adversary countries showing their citizens “real” videos of the US president or citizens saying things they never did…

Or their own internal political rivals.

[PB]

We need a super AI to keep it all straight.

[JimmyCarter]

We need a super AI to keep it all straight.

Right? Something that can unite all the different video/image models, LLMs, research and coding models. Like a network in the sky…

[huckbucket]

How do we even know if that is really AI?

This is going to open up pandora’s box of he said she said plausible deniability.

Shit, it is going to be the ultimate propaganda tool. Imagine adversary countries showing their citizens “real” videos of the US president or citizens saying things they never did…

Feels like you're starting to understand the point of this thread.

[JimmyCarter]

Just go follow Eliezer Yudkowsky on twitter if this thread isn’t providing enough doom and gloom.

https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/stat...06987898200267

Or thought experiments

[Rasputin]

P.S.

It IS scary. Everything about these days is scary, and AI is near the top of the list. I won't link to it, but chat GPT has been asked about the potential role of AI in the prophecy of the book of Revelation, look it up or ask the AI yourself. The AI has had more time to think about it and might give an expanded description of potential involvement.

As with the cell phone, the masses will be drawn into the structure that the AI evolves into, eventually being subservient to it, and hooking up to the matrix as life energy donors which feed the image of it, and marvel at the image of the beast. We are about at a point where nothing that can be seen on screens can be believed, because there is emerging intelligence that can generate any imagery as well as construct a convincing backstory. Yet even though people may hear this, and recognize it as actual, they will continue to look at the image, and believe the false imagery created, long past where it even vaguely resembles the truth.

[highangle]

“We live in a world where there is more and more information, and less and less meaning.”
― Jean Baudrillard, Simulacra and Simulation

Simulacra and Simulation is known for discussions of images and signs, and how they relate to our contemporary society, wherein we have replaced reality and meaning with symbols and signs; what we know as reality actually is a simulation of reality. The simulacra to which Baudrillard refers to are the signs of culture and media that create the reality we perceive: a world saturated with imagery, infused with communications media, sound, and commercial advertising. These simulacra of the real surpass the real world and thus become hyperreal, a world that is more-real-than-real; presupposing and preceding the real. In this world apathy and melancholy permeate human perception and begin eroding Nietzsche's feeling of ressentiment.

A specific analogy that Baudrillard uses is a fable derived from the work of Jorge Luis Borges. In it, a great Empire created a map that was so detailed it was as large as the Empire itself. The actual map grew and decayed as the Empire itself conquered or lost territory. When the Empire crumbled, all that was left was the map. In Baudrillard's rendition, it is the map that we are living in, the simulation of reality, and it is reality that is crumbling away from disuse.

https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

[Rasputin]

Or, to whittle it down to antiquity.

Edit to mention, that AI has long since been exposed to this allegory.

[highangle]

Platonism is an epistemological dead end, and needs to be set in a person before he can question for it to be even partially successful against nihilism.

Tell a computer that it can never map a LLM, and that everything it knows are shadows and dust. Then set it to learn. All you'll get is doubtput.

tl;dr: needs hardware root-of-trust