50 years to the day

[J. Barron DeJong]

If I am reading correctly this states that Hamas set up roadblocks inside Gaza? Hindering its own citizens?

Yes.

[boltonoutlaw]

Yes.

Wow. That's a huge WTF for me.

[subtle plague]

Wow. That's a huge WTF for me.

I don't want to seem like a cynic, but does that really surprise you?

Civilians acting as Human shields producing Hamas frirndly visuals AND the next Generation of hatred because no one there will remember the road Blocks just the bombing of friends and family by Israel. Win win for Hamas.

Fuck em.

[J. Barron DeJong]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...1C70lgyM4tK9zw

[J. Barron DeJong]

Just a note to be wary of videos from unverified sources:



https://x.com/sarafischer/status/171...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

[LongShortLong]

Aside from the water pipes to missile shit. It sucks that all water and electric for Gaza has to be from Israel. I understand the water if all the water tables are way west. But electric? Gas fired peakers would work. But I guess they aren’t allowed to play with nat gas.

Israel maintains an economic blockade. No way to get gas. Israel fucked over the people in Gaza for the last 25 years, hard. "But..." they deserved it right?

[gretch6364]

Israel maintains an economic blockade. No way to get gas. Israel fucked over the people in Gaza for the last 25 years, hard. "But..." they deserved it right?

Terrorist sympathizer right here I see.

[LongShortLong]

And the water pipes story... Strangely reminiscent of the crap stories leading up to the glorious Iraq invasion. According to the US State Department, irrigation pipes were for enriching uranium. Reefer trailers were mobile bioweapons labs. Etc. No WMDs found.

Turns out most goods are "dual use." Caveman has a sharp stick for planting wheat? Also a spear. Start banning everything that can be used as a weapon, and you get an actual prison. And prisoners still make weapons. Attempting to imprison 2 million people is foolish. And fuck Hamas, too. The Telegraph should be ashamed for publishing that.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Terrorist sympathizer right here I see.

Only a minority are terrorist is the fucking point!!!!

And about half are children!

There have been a number of posts here, including just today, outlining how Hamas is terrorizing Palestinians themselves to stay in power, to try and deter attacks, and use civilian deaths they are responsible for as propaganda.

But who cares about any of that. Kill ‘em all.

[Core Shot]

Because rockets and missiles rightfully sit around after manufacturing. It’s called a stockpile. Do you want them to corrode and be useless when needed? Are you suggesting a demand based military weapons manufacturing model? Are you fucking stupid or something?

These “missiles “ are made from plastic water pipe.
Allegedly.

How does that corrode?

Are you fucking stupid or something?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Terrorist sympathizer right here I see.

Sounds like sympathy for Palestinian civilians to me.


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[Foggy_Goggles]

Holy fuck assholes. Its not binary. Its amazingly sad and terrifying. An overwhelming majority of those affected are the innocents. Can we at least have some compassion for that?

[ex-powderbroker]

Israel maintains an economic blockade. No way to get gas. Israel fucked over the people in Gaza for the last 25 years, hard. "But..." they deserved it right?

right. they fucked everybody over when they forced out the settlers and then elected Hamas to start waging an asymmetric war. perfect take.

[mcphee]

These “missiles “ are made from plastic water pipe.
Allegedly.

How does that corrode?

Are you fucking stupid or something?

Did you just edit your post I replied to? I don’t recall anything about PVC or making this shit in your garage. Pretty sure you said “we shouldn’t paint them and just send em” (paraphrase) “We” implying US defense contractors.

[gretch6364]

Only a minority are terrorist is the fucking point!!!!

And about half are children!

There have been a number of posts here, including just today, outlining how Hamas is terrorizing Palestinians themselves to stay in power, to try and deter attacks, and use civilian deaths they are responsible for as propaganda.

But who cares about any of that. Kill ‘em all.

I will have to do some searching to see if I am missing it in the news....but if it is a small minority terrorizing their own people...are we witnessing mass civil war and unrest by the Gazan's to use this as an opportunity to exterminate the Hamas from their society?

[J. Barron DeJong]

I will have to do some searching to see if I am missing it in the news....but if it is a small minority terrorizing their own people...are we witnessing mass civil war and unrest by the Gazan's to use this as an opportunity to exterminate the Hamas from their society?

You’re right. At no time in history has a small minority in power ever ruled and oppressed their citizens.

[gretch6364]

You’re right. At no time in history has a small minority in power ever ruled and oppressed their citizens.

And you must also be right that the risk of accidental civilian casualties should stop any country from defending itself after being brutally attacked. After all, Allied bombing didn't result in 350,000+ German civilian casualties. Nor did the almost 1 million Japanese civilians die as a result of their government killing 2,500 US citizens in Pear Harbor.

[J. Barron DeJong]

And you must also be right that the risk of accidental civilian casualties should stop any country from defending itself after being brutally attacked. After all, Allied bombing didn't result in 350,000+ German civilian casualties. Nor did the almost 1 million Japanese civilians die as a result of their government killing 2,500 US citizens in Pear Harbor.

Fucknuts, I literally posted yesterday that there can be a moral calculation in which it’s deemed acceptable.

[LongShortLong]

Sounds like sympathy for Palestinian civilians to me.


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Sympathy for Israelis too. They are rightly drunk on rage. Enraged people people make bad decisions and overreact and later regret it. They need justice and also a good buddy or three to keep them from their worst.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Sympathy for Israelis too. They are rightly drunk on rage. Enraged people people make bad decisions and overreact and later regret it. They need justice and also a good buddy or three to keep them from their worst.

^^^ this.



https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

[gretch6364]

Fucknuts, I literally posted yesterday that there can be a moral calculation in which it’s deemed acceptable.

and yet you don't feel what the Hamas has done tips the calculation in Israel's favor? Or are you just an antisemite like half the left in the US?

If Mexico did something like what the Hamas did....the entire country would be flattened and turned into a beach community. And like Israel, the US military would do everything possible to not target civilians.

I have stayed away from this conversation for a week, but fuck, we all know terrorist organizations will never go away and they will pop up one after another. That doesn't mean the world shouldn't do everything in its power to systematically eradicate everyone that pops up. Kill every single member of Hamas you can find, starting with the leadership hiding in Qatar.

[ex-powderbroker]

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https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

hamas had no plan for after the massacre. the only plan is death. it’s terrible.

[Bunion 2020]

Send this fucking thread to Polyass where it belongs. It may have started with good intentions "But".

[J. Barron DeJong]

and yet you don't feel what the Hamas has done tips the calculation in Israel's favor? Or are you just an antisemite like half the left in the US?

If Mexico did something like what the Hamas did....the entire country would be flattened and turned into a beach community. And like Israel, the US military would do everything possible to not target civilians.

I have stayed away from this conversation for a week, but fuck, we all know terrorist organizations will never go away and they will pop up one after another. That doesn't mean the world shouldn't do everything in its power to systematically eradicate everyone that pops up. Kill every single member of Hamas you can find, starting with the leadership hiding in Qatar.

Go back and read the Twitter thread from the Israeli soldier about how they go about these decisions and then come back.

I’m saying they shouldn’t throw out the moral framework they have in place.

[J. Barron DeJong]

hamas had no plan for after the massacre. the only plan is death. it’s terrible.

Why is it so hard to grasp that a responsible democratic country should have higher moral standards and behave better than terrorists?