RIP Pacified athletic conference

[The AD]

And yet the conference re alignment and Tv money are set up entirely around the outliers, I think this is the heart of the rant!!!

Agreed. It's pretty ridiculous. The NCAA is a bad joke right now.

[fatnslow]

South Dakota State University is getting more well known.. They even have a campus in SoCal now??

It's go big or go home. Kind of like when the Portugal was able to rule Brazil for some salted cod and a few bottles of shitty port.

[dunfree]

What sux is when some athlete doesn't bother to graduate from Stanford before going pro. That was a spot someone who actually wanted an education could have taken. I'm talking about you Tiger. Maybe if you had taken that senior year class about not boinking cocktail waitresses . . .
Of course that applies to all colleges but especially to the highly selective ones.
How about if you go pro and don't graduate you pay back your scholarship from your pro earnings.
Or better yet, get rid of sports scholarships and for that matter college sports except for intramurals and self funded club teams. (My kid played Ultimate at Cal--the B team)

stanford likes people that drop out and go on to wealth (form a startup) or fame (win medals). It’s not a negative, because higher education isn’t about education. While Stanford has some incredibly bright athletes they’ve also been in the past willing to substantially lower their standards for great athletes (as well as the children of donors)

[SchralphMacchio]

Last year of the PAC12 (as is anyways), and they have 5 teams ranked in the Top 25 preseason rankings. Sheesh.

[old goat]

Preseason rankings are how they get people to watch games no one would watch otherwise.

[TahoeJ]

What sux is when some athlete doesn't bother to graduate from Stanford before going pro. That was a spot someone who actually wanted an education could have taken. I'm talking about you Tiger. Maybe if you had taken that senior year class about not boinking cocktail waitresses . . .
Of course that applies to all colleges but especially to the highly selective ones.
How about if you go pro and don't graduate you pay back your scholarship from your pro earnings.
Or better yet, get rid of sports scholarships and for that matter college sports except for intramurals and self funded club teams. (My kid played Ultimate at Cal--the B team)

Hang on... so you're saying Tiger should have stuck around instead of going pro to WIN THE MASTERS? One of the most iconic sporting events in the last 50+ years? lol... he was already a huge name before he went to Stanford and the "free ride" he got is kind of a joke - he brought the school so much attention and revenue and all of the other golfers got a free ride because of him. They should have been paying him.

[mcski]

I like Steve Young’s idea that the NFL should buy college football. Separate it from the ncaa and big whatever’s completely and run it like the development league it is and not just let 40 or fewer schools take all the money.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

I like Steve Young’s idea that the NFL should buy college football. Separate it from the ncaa and big whatever’s completely and run it like the development league it is and not just let 40 or fewer schools take all the money.

Then how will all the fans have an attachment to a school they never actually went to?

[SchralphMacchio]

Presumably, NCAA FB and BB are each worth way, way more TV money than G League, AAA baseball, AHL, etc?
So for that reason alone I don’t see it ever happening.

[old goat]

Hang on... so you're saying Tiger should have stuck around instead of going pro to WIN THE MASTERS? One of the most iconic sporting events in the last 50+ years? lol... he was already a huge name before he went to Stanford and the "free ride" he got is kind of a joke - he brought the school so much attention and revenue and all of the other golfers got a free ride because of him. They should have been paying him.

I don't think Stanford needed a lot more attention. He should have played for Texas or Florida and let some kid who actually cared about an education with no chance of playing pro golf get the scholarship.

[half-fast]

^^^That’s not how it works

[BmillsSkier]

I don't think Stanford needed a lot more attention. He should have played for Texas or Florida and let some kid who actually cared about an education with no chance of playing pro golf get the scholarship.

Lol, that’s the hot take of the day there, OG.

[SchralphMacchio]

PAC2 now.

Fucking ACC! Will be cool for basketball but not much else.

[dunfree]

Big tv sports wise, sure, but some of the ACC schools have very large athletic departments and very good teams. UNC-CH has almost double the number athletes of the Ducks. Women’s soccer? Soccer it’s 8 of the last 10 champions for men and 5 of 10 for women with the addition of Stanford (combined with notre dame in 2021), 18 of the last 20 women’s championship games had at least one team from the new ACC.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

I'm done watching D1 sports except for T&F and Lacrosse. This naked money grubbing is gross.

[GoldMember]

As a diehard Coug fan and supporter, I'm feeling gutshot. Unbelievable that we could end up here, turned on by our PAC 12 brethren. I am holding out hope that somehow we and the Beavs can ressurect the Pac in some form with an Apple deal for a streaming media deal and show these pricks that we're not dead yet.

[SchralphMacchio]

Steal the strongest teams from the Mountain West, do to it what it did to the WAC. Television Darwinism of COLLEGIATE athletic conferences [emoji1750]

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Watching some late night WAC football back in the day was a good time. Pull the defense off the field and put up a shit ton of points, I swear some of those teams were throwing passes during time outs.

[Viva]

I remember a game back in early-mid 90s between Utah and Colorado State.

Both were ranked in top ten.

At halftime, score was something like 17-14, and I was impressed. Was thinking "these teams can actually play some D".

Then the third quarter started, and both teams fell back into the typical WAC wackiness.

Final score was something like 48-45.

[Hood26]

As a diehard Coug fan and supporter, I'm feeling gutshot. Unbelievable that we could end up here, turned on by our PAC 12 brethren. I am holding out hope that somehow we and the Beavs can ressurect the Pac in some form with an Apple deal for a streaming media deal and show these pricks that we're not dead yet.

Fuck yeah. Oregon, USC, and UW all proved themselves to me for why they are on my most hated list.

[fatnslow]

You hate them because they knew enough to cut bait on a psycho, alcoholic girlfriend?

Good luck trying to get anyone to join two of the poorest schools in the former pac12.

I do hope they can figure out some sort of a merger to maintain power 5 status but it's going to be a rough ride. I feel bad for the Beavs , just as they were turning the corner and now they'll be financially limited moving forward.

[altacoup]

As a diehard Coug fan and supporter, I'm feeling gutshot. Unbelievable that we could end up here, turned on by our PAC 12 brethren. I am holding out hope that somehow we and the Beavs can ressurect the Pac in some form with an Apple deal for a streaming media deal and show these pricks that we're not dead yet.

I’m super bummed the pac is dead. But wazzu and osu played a major part in its death. They massively over valued themselves and their presidents were some of Larry Scotts biggest backers (along with ASU). The entire pac thought they were way more valuable than the market dictated. If the smaller schools would’ve taken 3/4 shares to keep it together, it would still be together. Instead of having a 20 million dollar payment and an intact pac they get 5-6 million and the mountain west. Complete failure of leadership.
But it really does suck that fox and espn are calling the shots. CFB right now is complete Wild West, and unless the schools agree to form sort of governing association it’ll only get worse during the next realignment in just a few years. A bunch of schools currently in the big 10+, big12+ and SEC will be getting tossed to the curb to. For the schools that get left behind football will be the least affected sport. All the non revenue sports will get totally screwed or moth balled due to the decrease in revenue.

[dunfree]

It’s a shitload cheaper for Stanford to keep golf (Tiger Woods) swimming (Katie Ledecky) and women’s soccer (3 on the 2019 World Cup winning team) compared to football with what Andrew Luck & John Elway in 50 years? Most college football programs are money losers. Always were.

[Toadman]

Will have to see how minor league pro football does this year.

[altacoup]

It’s a shitload cheaper for Stanford to keep golf (Tiger Woods) swimming (Katie Ledecky) and women’s soccer (3 on the 2019 World Cup winning team) compared to football with what Andrew Luck & John Elway in 50 years? Most college football programs are money losers. Always were.

Obviously you didn’t get a degree from Stanford.