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Thread: Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

  1. #1451
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    Anybody have much air time on these? Debating pulling them out tomorrow for some (hopeful) rope drops on stuff that hasn’t opened this storm cycle at Snowbasin, going to try for some big drops.

    My Praxis Lhasa Pow Fats are my normal go-to for deep days and bigger hits (such an awesome landing platform), but they get progressively less fun and a pain the more bumped out it gets.

    R Dimes will be a lot more fun in the bumps and tracked out steeps, but less surface area up front and more forward mount. Packed car can only fit one pair so have to decide which to take haha


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    send it, and report back !

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    Yep, going to be riding them all day. Already glad I brought them out, funky wind affected snow, they smear right through everything


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    AM110s in hand and blue (only color my guy had in new stock) p15s delivered tomorrow. Let's go.

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    Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

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    Right on!
    focus.

  6. #1456
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    Let us know how the AM is.

    I can't wait to get on them next season!!

  7. #1457
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    Two days into a 7 day Powder Hwy trip and all I've used is the FR One Ten. So good in tight trees at Red Mountain. PS I'm selling my super minty One-Eighty AM One Hundreds (only four days on them, selling flat with one mount for Pivots)...pm for email pics cause this site doesn't work.KC
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    How was the day Muggy?!

    Skied r-one-twenties today; traded skis with NWSkier (dimes) and LVS (Mfree one-twelve).

    Sent a little kicker over a rope line, landed maybe fifteen ft out/down. Fully taco’d the dimes hahahah, my haglunds were the only thing keeping me in my boots!!

    At two-fifteen with gear the dimes weren’t enough. Hahaha.


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    Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

    Was a great day, and perfect choice for the conditions. Snowbasin got super wind affected and heavy, so the whole mountain was kind of soft bumped up cream cheese with some deeper spots.

    R Dimes killed it, layup is super smooth and damp through the chop and variable. So quick and fun, easy to smear around through bumps and they track and carve well on soft groomers. Definitely still a full rocker ski and can be a little more tiring/jarring on heavy mogul lines and harder bumpy snow than something with camber, especially with really tired legs.

    Killer low angle pow ski, there’s some fun glades and ridges of Strawberry with tight bush/tree lines I cruised through with ease.

    They’re awesome in steep stuff Billy gearing around, can also rip long turns and kill it on choppy runouts

    Hit a number of drops today, not as big as I was going with the Lhasa Fats at Snowbird yesterday, but still pretty decent 15 footers or so. As long as you land balanced with your weight back a bit they did great, good support and control. Faster you go the better they are, not squirrelly at all landing.

    Out of the 6 drops I did, I also tomahawked once haha. Just landed a bit too far forward on a flatter landing and couldn’t pull it out. If I hadn’t been skiing hard for 5 days in a row I probably could have saved the landing by muscling it out, but my legs/back/core are pretty cooked currently.

    So yeah, totally sendable, and way better/less demanding than the lhasas in the tight bumpy stuff, but not quite as supportive/forgiving hucking stuff as a longer fat tip ski with a more rearward mount, especially at 215lbs+. If I was using this ski for that a lot I’d want the longer lengths or the 120s.

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    Solid run down, yeah, I muscled through my landing but yup found the limit of the ski at my weight. Like you said landing back would have helped, but hate having to land backseat to avoid plunging a tip.


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    Yeah, I wouldn’t say I feel you have to land backseat, but they’re just not forgiving if you’re too far forward. Part of that’s the more centered mount point, it’s all a leverage equation


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    See, if you guys would just get old and keep your drops to about knee height you wouldn't have this problem.

    (subscribe for more pro ski tips with Nick!)

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    Yeah - I never worry about sinking a tip when I huck to flat hardpack following my kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc_7777 View Post
    Two days into a 7 day Powder Hwy trip and all I've used is the FR One Ten. So good in tight trees at Red Mountain. PS I'm selling my super minty One-Eighty AM One Hundreds (only four days on them, selling flat with one mount for Pivots)...pm for email pics cause this site doesn't work.KC
    Sent you a PM. Out of curiosity, why did you decide to move on from the AM hundos?

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    Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

    Another great day on the R110. Felt really good in the air this morning, getting my balance on them more dialed. Really supportive and composed on sketch runouts

    Great float for their waist width in deep snow. Perfect soft snow do it all travel ski


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    I'll add some positive thoughts on the BC110 as well. I had gotten them out for a few days in fluffy pow and they skied well, but I find nearly anything of sufficient width to ski well in those conditions. Today was thick and creamy. Cascade concrete, as some might say, though it really skied pretty well when untracked. But a touring buddy was struggling to navigate tight turns in the trees and I wasn't even giving any extra thought to turning on the BC110. They get on plane quickly and pivot nicely. Lots of different turn shapes, no problem - all effortless. Nice supportive tails for a couple of small drops. Going in, I was perhaps most worried that the reverse camber (and pink pomoca skins) would be more slippery on the uphills (coming from cambered + nylon skins) but they've been totally fine in that regard. The reverse profile is just perfect for soft backcountry snow if you ask me.
    I did get a little core shot and I very rarely manage to do that, so I'm not convinced the bases are very hard, but that's okay, easily fixable.

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    Hey Marshal, I'm sure this is buried somewhere in this thread but what sort of hand tune were you putting on the FR110 prior to that becoming an add on? Need to re-tune my pair and I was pretty happy with what you did so I want to try to replicate it.

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    Yo man! Regarding the tuning, the edges for your skis were beveled to 1.5* base and 2* side edge inside the widepoints, 2* base outside the widepoints, then rounded outside the wide points and a good bit of gummi work through the whole length, progressively more at the ends and less under foot.

    Any high level ski shop should be able to give them a de-burr and nice edge polish. The prep work won't be affected by use, unless you need to blank the skis with an aggressive grind, so nothing overly complex to communicate other than the bevels and such.

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    Thank you! Getting some core shots filled and I may need to tweak the tune after depending on how aggressively they grind

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    Roger, got it.

    So... a few things you want to communicate.

    (1) these are your tune preferences (not trying to tell them how to tune)
    (2) if grind is blanked, please ensure the bevel extends all the way to the ends of the tips and tails, not just where the stone goes to (generally requires hand work)
    (3) if grind is blanked, recommend removing any burr/stone structure from the very point of the tip and making sure the edge is well rounded outside the sidecut both tip and tail
    (4) 1.5* base, 2* side, well polished
    (5) progressive detune with gummie (or to taste)

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    Also, fun email, always so glad to read feedback like this!
    Really makes all the hard work feel worth it

    Just got home from an absolutely epic few days in Wyoming. FR110's are so sick!!!! From soft groomers at the start of the trip, to fully overhead backcountry laps out the gates at JH, these things are so fun. Thanks for hooking me up with these. They're a great stiffness and weight for someone my size. I never felt like I was over flexing the tips or getting over my toes when driving them inbounds and the tails are nice and supportive on some bigger hits in chopped up landings. Stoking on how loose and fun they are. Still intuitive enough to carve em if you lay it over. I got a bunch of questions from my friends out there and people in lines. Nothing but good things to say and recommend people to check y

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    thought I should chime in after a few days on BC110s - especially as is it is an all positive post Mounted at rec with tectons, used with Scarpa Quattro 130s set at 13 degrees (the most upright). They are great - I totally understand the rave reviews for R110s. BC110s carve hard snow better than they have any right to when driven with a centered forward stance, the tails have a shit ton of pop when loaded up, they have impressive suspension when driven for being a reverse touring ski and the shape is just damned dialed - so fun. They are one little tweak (communicated to MO) away from being in the running for baing a near perfect 110ish tourer for me / my uses - as is they are 9.5/10 for me - they are very, very good skis. Highly recommended - get them while you can. They must be absolutely fantastic in untracked light snow - think Japow - of which we sadly have had none as of late.

  23. #1473
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    ^ Intriguing. What kind of terrain/conditions have you been using them in? Any skis you can compare them to as reference points?

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    If anyone is looking for 193 FR110s, I’m probably going to sell them. Amazing skis, only selling because I want to try the R110s after absolutely loving R105s.

    One mount for marker royal demos. I have a couple days on the skis and then however many days PForward from Blister put on them. They currently have like new Jester Demos on them with a couple days.

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    Long shot, but if anyone is a holding a pair of BC110s (either size) they are looking to move pls hit me up


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