Chasing My Dream Daily Driver - The Heritage Lab FL105

[carlh]

Finally got mine mounted looks like the snow should be ripe. 185s are a couple centimeters shorter than my 189 bonafides, mostly in the tip and enough lighter to be obvious probably 150-200g or so. Excited to ski these this weekend.
Next to the bones

Resting with the quiver (181 blades, 185 fl105, 189 bones, super goats, 191 goliaths, skates, and 189 countdown 114L)

[Full Trucker]

Is there a thread for BC105s or the carbon skis in general? Because these things...



Me: 50 y/o 6'2" 200 lbs weekend warrior who gets 35-45 days a year. No ski race background here, started skiing at age 36 after snowboarding for a decade and half. I don't consider myself a charger, but I like skiing steeper stuff when the snow's good. These are the 185 length, mounted with an ATK R12 + the freeride spacer, skiing a Lange XT3 130 with the cuff spoiler from a 140 and Booster strap added. I've only had these Bad Larrys out one day in a fairly low angle tree zone. Some fresh snow in the ankle to boot top amount, over a bit of a sun crust sitting on top of supportive non-punchy base.

This setup is quite a bit lighter than my last touring setup. I'm coming off 183 Black Crows Corvus Freebird mounted with Dynafit Rotation 12s, this setup is a little over a pound lighter per foot. It's noticeable, for sure. Anycrap, the lightness was appreciated on the skin up, chasing a couple of hardboot splitboarders. No issues with traction (that weren't my own fault) due to the rocker/flat camber that I could tell. We didn't get them on anything frozen or firm as far as a skin track goes, so that'll be for future me to comment on. We did set a couple tracks straight up the fall line (fucking splitboarders from Jackson) and again, the lower weight was appreciated and the rocker didn't seem to be an issue.

Once time to ski, I'll have to admit that the lighter weight, how "soft" these things feel hand flexing & watching the tips boing around while skinning, plus not having camber—all made me a little tentative to take those first few turns. I've skied those Corvus Freebirds kind of of everywhere and know them well, I know how they react to different snow conditions. It took me a couple of laps to sort of figure out that I can trust the BC105s, but once I started getting there the possibilities of this ski really started becoming apparent. They're pretty easy to slash around and make pivoty turns wherever the fuck you want. I found them to be really at home in those medium-tight hippy trees, easy to keep momentum going from turn to turn without getting bogged down. I also found that I could push into/drive them more than I expected, granted there was a supportive layer of snow not too far below the surface but the ski's behavior was encouraging for deeper snow conditions. And that sun crust 4-6" below the surface was ZERO issue, not sure if it's the shape or the rocker profile or what but I feel like the skis really minimized that sun crust. Shit like that is usually challenging for me to ski.

So there it is, a few initial thoughts. I'm digging them, quite a bit really, but definitely need to get more time getting to know them. I'll probably take them inbounds this weekend just to see how they react on firm snow, I suspect they'll be fine so long as I angle them enough for the edge to engage but it'll be good to know before I go ski some refrozen backcountry garbage snow.

[sf]

Is there a thread for BC105s or the carbon skis in general? Because these things...

Things are a bit all over the place on some models.
Feel free to share your thoughts

[abcdethan]

I have a pair incoming! Hope to get them on snow soon


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[Full Trucker]

Things are a bit all over the place on some models.
Feel free to share your thoughts

Added initial impressions to my post. Thanks!

[Blaster]

I’ll also add after one day in 1-4 inches of new snow on a firm but edge-able base that the bc105s share many of my favorite characteristics of the bmt109s. Namely they coax you into skiing faster and more done the fall line but have the composure to “pay the bills” when hauling ass in variable snow. Similarly, they are quick to pivot and dump speed when needed and maybe a touch better at holding a carve than the bmt109s. Thanks Marshall, these skis are super fun.

[sf]

I’ll also add after one day in 1-4 inches of new snow on a firm but edge-able base that the bc105s share many of my favorite characteristics of the bmt109s. Namely they coax you into skiing faster and more done the fall line but have the composure to “pay the bills” when hauling ass in variable snow. Similarly, they are quick to pivot and dump speed when needed and maybe a touch better at holding a carve than the bmt109s. Thanks Marshall, these skis are super fun.

Nice.
Any more direct comparisons to the bmt109s?

[Full Trucker]

...they coax you into skiing faster and more done the fall line...

Can confirm. My ski partners on the day made several "Those skis seem to want to haul ass" observations. But always quite composed, could put a turn or slash wherever and whenever needed to avoid being impaled on a branch.

[Blaster]

Nice.
Any more direct comparisons to the bmt109s?

I’ll add anything that is relevant as I get more days in. My main remaining question is if they float as well as the bmt109s. The bmts are great in 2-20 inches of new but does the c105 having a little more tip rocker height compensate for being narrower and less of a pintail.

[Lord Thomas]

Im keeping an eye on this discussion as I'm evaluating a pair of C113's as a possible replacement for my BMT 109's

[sf]

I’ll add anything that is relevant as I get more days in. My main remaining question is if they float as well as the bmt109s. The bmts are great in 2-20 inches of new but does the c105 having a little more tip rocker height compensate for being narrower and less of a pintail.

Thanks. Would you say they are similar, more or less loose when slarving in heavier snow / tight trees / lower speeds?

[Blaster]

Thanks. Would you say they are similar, more or less loose when slarving in heavier snow / tight trees / lower speeds?

I haven't skied them in those conditions yet, but will add that if/when that happens.

[Full Trucker]

I skied the BC105s inbounds for a few laps today just to get more of a feel for them. I can confirm that they float above their waist width class, and that on windblown shit fuck they are not terrifying. And much like the R120s I had prior, they turn heads in the lift line and had lots of people asking about them. Ride the lift with a dude on OG Hell Bents and he was pretty excited to hear about HB122s.

[banzai]

Keep having fun on the FL105s: https://www.instagram.com/p/C4kCLCcI5uh/
Probably skied them in most encounterable snow conditions by now. Have some footage from deep pow and deep chop, might piece something together in the future.

[2FUNKY]

Keep having fun on the FL105s: https://www.instagram.com/p/C4kCLCcI5uh/
Probably skied them in most encounterable snow conditions by now. Have some footage from deep pow and deep chop, might piece something together in the future.

Nice! 185 or 192? Having skied both they are very different animals. So good. I may add the 185 in. Lol


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[arild]

Nice! 185 or 192? Having skied both they are very different animals. So good. I may add the 185 in. Lol


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Mr Chill is on the 185s!

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[carlh]

How far back did everyone bring their tip detune on these? I’’m working through my tube and have my bevels sorted but still having a bit of grabbiness in the tip at slower speeds on firm. Did a bit more gummi work after the last ski but wondering if I should be a bit more aggressive.

[pfluffenmeister]

I typically think detuning is heresy and Marshal's tunes are sublime.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

My friend the retired World Cup tuner would disagree. They even “detune” WC skis. Although it’s really just part of their tuning job. Planing sidewalls, beveling the top sheet where it meets the sidewall, dulling edges that don’t contact the snow, polishing edges etc etc.


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[pfluffenmeister]

I'm sure he knows more than I do.
Certainly, one should do as they prefer.

[Marshal Olson]

How far back did everyone bring their tip detune on these? I’’m working through my tube and have my bevels sorted but still having a bit of grabbiness in the tip at slower speeds on firm. Did a bit more gummi work after the last ski but wondering if I should be a bit more aggressive.

On my personal pair, I feather in extra bevel by hand from about 3" inside the widepoints tip and tail out through the taper. Really helps the ski slide smoothly when you want it to.

[carlh]

Not sure if I trust myself freehand, I might try to print a bevel tool or spacer.

On my personal pair, I feather in extra bevel by hand from about 3" inside the widepoints tip and tail out through the taper. Really helps the ski slide smoothly when you want it to.

[Shorty_J]

Not sure if I trust myself freehand, I might try to print a bevel tool or spacer.

Mark the edge with a sharpie. Where the sharpie gets removed is where you cut. Start conservative and work towards where you want to stop.

Freehanding is not too difficult.

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[banzai]

Mr Chill is on the 185s!

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I am on your 185s to be precise! And I am taking them here early April - 1500 meters vertical drop, conditions permitting of course.

[arild]

I am on your 185s to be precise! And I am taking them here early April - 1500 meters vertical drop, conditions permitting of course.

You're giving them their best life, haha. Cue Labrador tail wagging videos.

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