Atomic Backland XTD 120 - new for 2023 - 24 season

[kamtron]

Is this cuff pivot issue unique to the backland XTD or does it apply to other boots in the family? Hawx, MTN Summit, etc?

I had it with my original backland carbon in similarly low amounts of use. I've heard of people getting a lot more use before this slop develops in other models. My guess is there's an interaction between the cuff bellowing outwards during flexion and the pivot that leads to increased wear in certain models of boots more than others.

[TheArbez]

Has anyone had luck/experience stretching these boots for length? I'm in a 27.5 Hawx Ultra XTD and the fit is spot on (only needed a teensy sixth toe punch), I just want something that walks better for spring tours. My problem with all <1300g boots is that the heel pocket is way too big, including the 27.5 Backland XTD.

So, wondering if I can size down to a 26.5 Backland and then punch the toes out if needed. Anyone played with this?

For reference, I am in a 26.5 Head Raptor WCR 3 with zero length work, and I've tried a Backland Carbon in 26.5 and was pretty happy with it.

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[Yukonrider]

The Frictionless Pivots are sold/packaged as a complete set for one boot (2 sides, for a half pair), so you shouldn't be charged per side of each boot (4 separate pivot charges)... something seems a little off with how they priced it if that's the case. Was the $80 for just the parts or parts plus installation?

Honestly I didn't ask many questions. It seemed they wanted to install it for me, and never mentioned a labor charge. I made a pretty big fuss about it so I think if they made a mistake it would have been caught, but I didn't look inside the baggies (he brought out 4).

Not to point fingers but on their website https://skimo.co/atomic-boot-parts it clearly states:

Backland Frictionless Pivot - Keeps the cuff rotating around and attached to the lower shell. Sold individually, two would repair one boot, 4 would repair a full set of boots.

[rjenz]

I've got about 20 days on my Backland XTDs and they've got a mm or two of play in the pivots. Probably a smidge less than LeeLau's video earlier in the thread.

I'm 145lbs and conservative in the backcountry, so not the most punishing user. Unfortunately the place I bought the boots is no longer in business (RIP escape route) but I'll see how far I get with other local outfits..

[Yukonrider]

Update: 10 days on new pivots and they are worse than the ones I just warrantied. Don't buy these boots.

[skivt27]

Has anyone tried the Chris Rubens mod of using a vulcan tongue on their backland xtd?

does anyone have a picture or a link to this?

[Jason4]

I’d love to see that too. I was thinking about how little it would take to get a cabrio boot out of the Backland XTD while I was skiing them over the weekend.

[adrian.bee]

So just to clarify - the pivot play is not a warranty thing? I started getting it after 20ish days and also broke a boot board on the same post-work tour. Things are falling apart! Such a bummer because I really like how they perform and they fit me well.

[Yukonrider]

It is, but there was pushback. I was able to get a second set under warranty, same P/N though so the problem isn't fixed, not sure how long they'll hand out new ones under warranty.

[kamtron]

I couldn't get them for free with my old Backlands. Shop made me pay.

[rjenz]

Anyone have a surplus frictionless pivot set lying around? Or know a place that sells them? (to Canada). Having trouble tracking some down for my sloppy Backland XTDs..

[onenerdykid]

rjenz - PM sent to you, let me know if it went through

[rjenz]

rjenz - PM sent to you, let me know if it went through

Cheers ONK, just replied to your PM

[CaliBrit]

[emoji638]][emoji640][emoji639]][emoji638][emoji637][emoji637][emoji637][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji639]]]Anyone have a surplus frictionless pivot set lying around? Or know a place that sells them? (to Canada). Having trouble tracking some down for my sloppy Backland XTDs..

Yeah I’d love to get my hands on some too.

[adrian.bee]

Local shop got me this rebuild kit which was quite useful https://www.phantomsnow.com/products/pivot-rebuild-kit