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  1. #226
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    I am on a single grind myself and some tuning. Got the SF100s out for some night riding. Hard pack everywhere. Groomers performance was solid as expected. Honestly though, Im really really liking them in the park. They are super balanced in the air, have a nice pop, and the suspension is solid on landings. Rails and boxes felt great too. Overall, just an awesome ski. The only thing I wished for tonight, due to the conditions, was a bit more meat on them. I think a touch heavier and a bit more damp...albeit you lose out somewhere else so hard so say.

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    Agree on the SF 100 damping! If they just did the same build as the Blackops 98 it would be perfect as it would have a bit more heft to it and I think the lack of Air Tip/more rubber tip/tail along with the metal underfoot would get rid of the hard snow noise the ski has. That is my only complaint now is that it does not FEEL as substantial with the noise it makes on firm snow. Never felt that on my BO 98 even with similar weight.

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    Makes me want to try the new ON3P Ripper Rocker. I think the Jeffrey 100 in the Ripper Rocker model might be a good comp to the SF100.

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    excited for these since the SF 110 191 on the line is an all timer ski for me (w/ P15).

    we need to be identifying what bindings people are using on these skis as that has a huge impact. it’s generally assumed that a rossi/dstar gets a P15/8 but if someone is using an attack or strive the calculus changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westoxified View Post
    excited for these since the SF 110 191 on the line is an all timer ski for me (w/ P15). we need to be identifying what bindings people are using on these skis as that has a huge impact. it’s generally assumed that a rossi/dstar gets a P15/8 but if someone is using an attack or strive the calculus changes.
    Yeah I have heard amazing things about the Super BO 98 (not sure if same as BO 98) from a buddy who has the pink top sheet one. Sounds like that would have been a perfect layup for this in the 100 width.

    Also, I am on Pivot 14s. I always go Pivots for this type of ski.

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    Been following the SF one hundred chatter for a while as it’s a contender for my next ski purchase in the ninty to one hundred width. Also considering the following: BO ninety eight, enf ninety nine, unleashed ninety eight, m-free one hundred. Looking for a fun, poppy, playful ski but still with some dampness and carving ability. This would fill a gap between an enforcer one o four and volkl deacon eight four, both of which I love. Also considering a mirus core in addition. Any input would be appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiwald View Post
    Been following the SF one hundred chatter for a while as it’s a contender for my next ski purchase in the ninty to one hundred width. Also considering the following: BO ninety eight, enf ninety nine, unleashed ninety eight, m-free one hundred. Looking for a fun, poppy, playful ski but still with some dampness and carving ability. This would fill a gap between an enforcer one o four and volkl deacon eight four, both of which I love. Also considering a mirus core in addition. Any input would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
    Are you mostly on more directional skis? The SF100 is one of the top skis I've been on recently. I am still blown away by how versatile it is. Yet, it is a unique ski amongst the other100ish width skis in that its rec MP is -3ish, which is quite forward vs a lot of other offerings. I continue to feel the perfect use case for the SF100 is if you want a ski that excells all over the mountain in freeride/freestyle manner as well as wanting to get into the terrain park with one ski. If you find yourself getting in the air off everything, doing spins off side hits, riding switch, etc. = this ski is for you.
    FYI I might be (might..) off loading mine (have had about 10 days on it)..not because I don't love it, but because I am constantly trying different skis..its an addition.

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    Mirus Cor is a completely different animal as it's pretty light, soft flexing and a very tight radius. Supposed to be very fun going moderate speeds on softer groomers though.

    The SF 100 is the most stable and most willing to go straight if the Rossignol skis around 100mm and very fun off trail, in bumps or carving in softer snow. The BO 98 has a slighter lower turn radius with more effective edge and less rocker/splay so a little more precise and a bit more of a harder snow carver than the SF 100. Also much quieter on noisy or icy snow without the AirTip and more rubber damping. The BO 98 tips not as good at at passing over crud and tail not as loose off trail though. So I would lean BO 98 if you wanted a bit more hard snow biased ski and the SF 100 for a softer snow/off trail bias ski.
    See the new Super Blackops 98 26 version is now shipping and assumed it was the same as previous years but heard rumours they might have changed rocker profile so I'm getting a dealer to see if there is any differences or not. Will update when I know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNazWIcoWA View Post
    Are you mostly on more directional skis? The SF100 is one of the top skis I've been on recently. I am still blown away by how versatile it is. Yet, it is a unique ski amongst the other100ish width skis in that its rec MP is -3ish, which is quite forward vs a lot of other offerings. I continue to feel the perfect use case for the SF100 is if you want a ski that excells all over the mountain in freeride/freestyle manner as well as wanting to get into the terrain park with one ski. If you find yourself getting in the air off everything, doing spins off side hits, riding switch, etc. = this ski is for you.
    FYI I might be (might..) off loading mine (have had about 10 days on it)..not because I don't love it, but because I am constantly trying different skis..its an addition.
    Carving skis get mounted on recommended. I mount my Freeride skis around - six from center. For example my SF one ten is mounted at - three from recommended. Leaning towards the BO or unleashed to max the carving ability. I really like the enforcer one o four free for low tide off piste. Anyone have experience with both the BO and unleashed?


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    Unleashed 98 a great carver as is the BO 98 but find the BO 98 is more stable at speed and more damp with its rubbed damping tip/tail. SF 100 better sloped tips like the Enforcer 104 so better for going over thick crud so I would just bring out the E104 on crud days and use the BO 98 on firmer days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noslow View Post
    Unleashed 98 a great carver as is the BO 98 but find the BO 98 is more stable at speed and more damp with its rubbed damping tip/tail. SF 100 better sloped tips like the Enforcer 104 so better for going over thick crud so I would just bring out the E104 on crud days and use the BO 98 on firmer days.
    Just what I needed to hear. Thanks for the input!


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    For science!

    SF100 mounted at -1 from rec, so 4.2 from center. SF100s and MF100s (mine are mounted +3 from rec) are 100% not the same ski with different constructions - they are different both with respect to shape (widest points), rec mount, flex pattern and construction (most notably titanal in the SFs). The rocker lines seem fairly similar though. The ski kinda differently too - SFs are looser, softer and easier to play around on, SFs have more umph and want to go straight / in big arcs. Both release the tails easily. It kinda feels like they took the BO98 and tweaked it into both a playful charger and a more park oriented playful all mountain ski, while upping the soft snow capability of both versions. I reset the edges at 1/2 on both - the tunes were not great. These should cover a huge range of skiers - very very good skis.

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    Does that MF 100 have metal underfoot as I've never seen conformation of the drill bit guideline on them yet. Know my SF 100 definitely does not.
    Still liking the SF 100 in soft snow and off trail and a riot in the trees and bumps. Not loving the lack of weight and damping on firmer snow. Not as precise a carver as the BO 98 or as solid on edge as the Enforcer 104.
    Will compare against the Enforcer 104 when I am back from my West Coast trip to see if it is worth keeping both. Leaning towards just keeping the E104 as it really is a fantastic ski. My favourite playful charger around 100mm now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-kapow View Post
    For science! https://images.finncdn.no/dynamic/1600w/f5/f5cb8b32-6383-408a-84c2-a7b91aad9f14"][/URL] SF100 mounted at -1 from rec, so 4.2 from center. SF100s and MF100s (mine are mounted +3 from rec) are 100% not the same ski with different constructions - they are different both with respect to shape (widest points), rec mount, flex pattern and construction (most notably titanal in the SFs). The rocker lines seem fairly similar though. The ski kinda differently too - SFs are looser, softer and easier to play around on, SFs have more umph and want to go straight / in big arcs. Both release the tails easily. It kinda feels like they took the BO98 and tweaked it into both a playful charger and a more park oriented playful all mountain ski, while upping the soft snow capability of both versions. I reset the edges at 1/2 on both - the tunes were not great. These should cover a huge range of skiers - very very good skis.
    wait... I'm confused. which comments are for which ski?

    Is the MF100 the skinnier SF110 we all wanted?

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    After exclusively being on the SF100 for about 3 weeks now I really believe its uniquely a ski for the more freestyle leaning freeride skier or park skier looking for a single 100 width ski for daily duties all over the mountain and in the park. That is exactly my use case and its 100% the top ski for me right now even considering the very apparent weak point, which is IMO that it lacks the material and weight of the SF110 resulting in overall less compsure when things get hard and chopped up. Its a compramise I am willing to make considering the number of positives -- it carves amazingly, is very poppy and playful, balanced in the air, great when jibbing around seeking out side hits or running through a park jump line, confidence-inspiring on landings, intuitive in tight, steep terrain, etc. With that being said, there are definitley better skis out there (MF100, E99, BO98, E104, Rustler 10, Anomaly 102, and on and on) for the skier that doesnt describe themself as freestyle or park minded or prioritizes other things. Sure you could mount back from recommended, but if you are doing that it might be worth asking why. Not saying its wrong to go with the SF100 and mount it back from recommended, but its something to consider for people considering various skis in this width. Id really like to get on the BO 98 and MF100 (mounted forward from rec) to compare to the SF100. Also very interested in the ripper rocker that ON3P has as an option on the Jeff 100.

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    I was able to A/B the ‘25 M Free 99 (prior hybrid core) and the SF100. Both in 184 and 185 length, which are actually 181.5 straight pull. Both weigh in at 2000g a ski. The tails are identical. Earlier front rocker rise on the M Free. There is metal under the M Free as will for the binding. I also noticed the M Free at its narrowest was 97mm. -5.5cm on SF100, -6.5cm on M Free.

    The SF100 is slower to release and is better on edge imo. It’s still loose, but not as loose as the M Free. That’s not to say you can’t rail groomers on the M Free, you just have to be more aware. I found the tip and tail to be slightly stiffer on the SF100. For me that hindered its performance in tight bumpy terrain when in steeps. This ski is loud in icy conditions and not the most stable through chop I found.

    The M Free is different to me in that it is more stable underfoot but softer in the tips and tails. It was better in chop and bumps due to those two things. I also found it more lively to hit every bump on the mountain. Confidence inspiring for cliff drops as well and just a more fun ski all around for me.

    I was looking for a lower tide ski to compliment the SF110, which is stable underfoot with softer tips. I tend to like that style of sky, so for me this decision was easy and I’ll be selling the SF100. I’m not a fan of stiff from tip to tail lightweight skis, and I know 2000g isn’t light for most, but I kept getting that feeling with the SF100.

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    Blister Gear:30 podcast has a discussion on SF110 vs M Free 112. My takeaway is the SF has a bit more backbone, is stiffer and carves better where the MF112 is a bit easier to ski and skis more loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stopper View Post
    Blister Gear:30 podcast has a discussion on SF110 vs M Free 112. My takeaway is the SF has a bit more backbone, is stiffer and carves better where the MF112 is a bit easier to ski and skis more loose.
    Just listened to this. After finally getting on my one-ninety MFree one-twelves, I wholeheartedly agree with the Blister take on the Sender Free and MFree from a comparison perspective.

    I posted my initial thoughts over in the Dynastar thread. I agree that the SF one-ten is more precise and that the MFree one-twelve is more damp, forgiving, and loose.

    I’m now seriously contemplating selling my Sender Free…


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    Skied my SF 100 out west after just a few inches of fresh snow and again, very fun and playful off trail and noisier and less damp than I prefer on trail. Near the end of the day I went down a scraped off groomer with lots of crud mounds at speeds that any of my other skis would have no issue with. The tips flapped so violently and were so loud slapping the firm snow after the mounds I actually laughed out loud and then put on the brakes to slow things down. Final nail in their coffin I think and was waiting to try out the Enforcer 104 back home again to confirm my feelings.

    Just skied the 185cm Enforcer 104 and 184cm SF 110 on a firm morning then heavy crud filled afternoon and the Enforcer 104 were definitely head and shoulders above the SF 100 for damping and unfazed by the heavy crud. The SF 110 were more poppy off the mounds and were not as composed as the E104. I'm sure the 191cm SF 110 or my 190cm 21 CT 3.0 would have handled it better.

    Could definitely see how the MF 112 would be more damp feeling with their PU core and non AirTip builds(especially on those heavy 183cm MF 112 out there) but kinda surprised they feel that much looser with their profiles and specs being almost identical.

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    The number of 108-112 skis out there is making it hard to choose. I think, having finally spent some time on the SF110 and owning the SF100, are best suited to the more freestyle-oriented crowd who dabble in the park, ski switch frequently, etc. I personally get along amazingly with both, but do understand what is lost with a more center mount on skis like that. There are just better skis out there for the larger base of skiers who arent doing freestyle things all over the mountain.
    With that being said, anyone looking to move on from their SF100 or SF110 let me know.

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    anybody had a chance to compare SF110 with Faction Mana/Studio 3? big fan of Mana 3s and looking at blister review, it seems these skis are very similar to each other.
    Brief comparison: SF110 vs Mana 3 in 184cm

    140-110-133mm vs 140-112-134 mm
    2196 & 2211 grams vs 2052 & 2081 grams
    Sidecut 20 meters vs 21 meters
    Camber 6mm vs 5mm
    Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 69 mm / 50 mm vs 66 mm / 59 mm
    Mount point: -3.4cm vs -2.55 or -4cm
    Stiffness: Tips: 7.5-8 Shovels: 8 In Front of Toe Piece: 8.5-10 Underfoot: 10 Behind the Heel Piece: 10-9 Tails: 8.5-7 vs Tips: 7 Shovels: 7.5-8 In Front of Toe Piece: 8-10 Underfoot: 10 Behind the Heel Piece: 10-8.5 Tails: 8
    Rocker lines also look almost similar

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    The reason I was one of the first ones to get the SF 110 when it came out 2 years ago was that I saw the dimensions were almost identical to my 21 Faction CT 3.0 which I loved. The 21 builds were all unicorns being overbuilt and MUCH heavier than the lines now built in the Atomic plant from 22 onwards. The 21 CT 1.0(92mm) and CT 2.0(102mm) had poplar/beech wood cores with rubber damping and 2 sheets of metal underfoot, 20m average turn radius with multi radius sidecuts and 2200gr and 2300gr weights in their 183cm lengths. The 112mm 21 CT 3.0 had one binding retention metal sheet underfoot, a poplar wood cores but no rubber damping and about a 2200gr weight in the 184cm(182cm tape measure). All the 21 CT skis had the same flex pattern as the current ones with stiffer flex patterns than most skis tip/tail but only gradually rising underfoot. So the suspension worked better in the narrower models with their extra weight and rubber, so I wished the 21 CT 3.0 was a bit softer tip/tail and stiffer underfoot along with some rubber to quiet things.

    The SF 110 is exactly what I wished the 21 CT 3.0 was and skis very similar I think. The SF 110 is even easier at lower speeds to carve with its more flexible tip/tail yet absorbs the terrain better than the CT 3.0 did. Also knew where I'd like the SF 110 mounted as the almost identical CT 3.0 had their freestyle/CT line at -5cm total, their Progressive rec at -6.5cm and their Traditional rec at -8cm total. Like the Blackops 118 which has a min sidecut width at -8cm, the SF 110 is about -8.5cm so these skis are still playfull mounted back but still are stable mounted forward with their multi radius sidecuts.

    So the SF 110 is an upgrade I think over the 21 CT 3.0 and and very large upgrade over older or newer versions of the Mana 3/Studio 3 as they lack the mass with their lighter cores and lack of metal.

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    I‘v got per coincidence the SF110 in 191 as Marcus Gougen special edition. Such a great looking ski mounted with purple 2.0 CAST. Almost to pretty to get wrecked on the rocks with the low snow level in the Alps this season. Skied MF108 for many years but like SF110 better. I‘m tempted to try MF112 just for science but purely visual the combo SE SF110/CAST will be very very hard to beat.

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