Sender Free 110

[MD12]

Banditman we like a lot of the same skis. Trust me get some 189 j skis hotshots. You’ll love them.

[phatty]

Banditman we like a lot of the same skis. Trust me get some 189 j skis hotshots. You’ll love them.

Bandit and I share many favorites as well and I just got a 189 Hotshot that I'm eager to try. This makes me happy to hear!

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[Bandit Man]

Banditman we like a lot of the same skis. Trust me get some 189 j skis hotshots. You’ll love them.

Just read the Blister Gear review. Consider me intrigued.

[Bandit Man]

Got these mounted at -2-cm. Going to give them a go this week.

KC - those are the P18’s I got from you. [emoji6]

[phatty]

Got these mounted at -2-cm. Going to give them a go this week.

KC - those are the P18’s I got from you. [emoji6]

You're making great choices on these pivots lately. Good to see you using real bindings [emoji6]

[Bandit Man]

Giving these a proper initiation in some cold smoke blower today. Felt natural right out of the gate. Ski exactly as described. So glad I went with the 191. Can be pushed, but so playful and pivoty. My 192 M-Free 108 has some competition.

[kid-kapow]

Giving these a proper initiation in some cold smoke blower today. Felt natural right out of the gate. Ski exactly as described. So glad I went with the 191. Can be pushed, but so playful and pivoty. My 192 M-Free 108 has some competition.

Hi. I am Kid-Kapow and I approve of this message!

Happy to hear that you are finding them enjoyable. The 192 MF108 comparison is high praise indeed

[kid-kapow]

because science

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1) Vario.2 toes + ATK/DPS FR14 heels w/ Freeride spacers mounted 2cm behind factory rec
2) Castified P15s mounted 2cm behind factory rec
3) FKS180 mounted on the line

The experiment has reached its conclusion -> I sold the pair mounted at rec today.

I really like both mounts - they ski really well at both locations imho.

What pushed me over the edge was skiing them both back to back in really wind affected somewhat crusty pow. I just found the -2 pair's tails a lot easier to ski given my lack of technique. The -2 pair also felt a lot calmer on the icy groomers we had going back to the lift. My -2 BO118 skied the same snow really well as well, if not as well as the ON3P C&Ds I also brought.

So to conclude - my findings for how I like to ski is to recommend going rec for more balanced swing weight, more float from the tail (favors a more upright stance) and increased pivotability, go -2 for a bit more power, a bit more float from the shovels and calmer demeaner into a turn on harder snow. So yeah, kinda what you would expect

[noslow]

Giving these a proper initiation in some cold smoke blower today. Felt natural right out of the gate. Ski exactly as described. So glad I went with the 191. Can be pushed, but so playful and pivoty. My 192 M-Free 108 has some competition.

Was going to be surprised if you didn’t like them and glad you do! Could see someone having both the 192cm MFree 108 and 191cm Sender Free 110 in a quiver. The MFree 108 is going to be looser and easier to slash while the Sender Free 110 more precise and grippy on edge.

[noslow]

The experiment has reached its conclusion -> I sold the pair mounted at rec today.

I really like both mounts - they ski really well at both locations imho.

What pushed me over the edge was skiing them both back to back in really wind affected somewhat crusty pow. I just found the -2 pair's tails a lot easier to ski given my lack of technique. The -2 pair also felt a lot calmer on the icy groomers we had going back to the lift. My -2 BO118 skied the same snow really well as well, if not as well as the ON3P C&Ds I also brought.

So to conclude - my findings for how I like to ski is to recommend going rec for more balanced swing weight, more float from the tail (favors a more upright stance) and increased pivotability, go -2 for a bit more power, a bit more float from the shovels and calmer demeaner into a turn on harder snow. So yeah, kinda what you would expect

Figured those were going to be your findings and good to have confirmation! I’m just dying to get out on my set along with the latest BO 118 pair but conditions in the East haven’t been co-operating yet. Booo!

[JRainey]

Just got a couple days on my 184s mounted on the line. Yum!

5'8", 175ish (Current body type: a chubby gorilla), 37 (heart of 24)

Ski in the Alps, home to the worst snow known to man (and sometimes the best). I can generally find smooth and soft, but that comes in a little bit crusty on top and hard underneath. Plenty of technical terrain above and below treeline, plus wide open space and natty jumps. Moguls aren't really a thing. The snow has to be god-awful for me to just ski groomers. 95% off-piste.

Currently, I tour up from the bottom when I tour and ski downhill when I'm riding lifts. But it's taken me a few years to allow my setups to be distinct between the two, but now I'm all in. I've got 3 kids and a job, so I ski for 2 hours, hot laps, jump-seeking missile, and then I'm out.

I've loved all versions of Hoji skis from the EHPs on, but in the last few years I've focused on getting some camber back for the ski area.

Bent 120s have been my ski of choice for the last 4 years. I got the revolt 104 for low tide, but at 180 (shoulda got 188) they are a little too short for variable and too narrow to mix well with breakable crust.

Got the Bent 110 when they came out, but besides the general shape, it skis nothing like the 120. Great in soft snow (tons of snap), but horrendous when it comes to ice and very hard snow (which I'm bound to hit at some point in a lap). Stiff and light.

The 120 is actually supple, with enough backbone when I need it. Super easy to ski, but I don't often feel like I overwhelm them. And for a super light ski, they absorb nasty snow very well. I love them for dust on crust as they float on the tiniest amount of snow, and behave when you hit the ice. (I'm sure the blackops crowd is eye-rolling). I was just skiing them too much though, as I didn't like my narrower skis as much.

Sender Frees have the exact same length, the exact same mount point, the exact same rocker length as the Bent 120, and from the first run, I was on autopilot.

The snow was too bad to even mount them up for a week ( heavy rain, all snow fucked, then freeze). But we got 3-4" and I couldn't miss the dust on crust crucible.

Super impressed. High speed, quiet power. I couldn't even notice the 400g weight increase as far as swing weight, but they sure felt planted on the snow. I would have enjoyed the shit out of my 120s, but I knew I made the right choice. About 10-15 percent stiffer I'd say. Medium Plus people here said. More juice in the backseat, but never got punished.

They don't have amazing ollie power of the tails, a trait they share with the 120s, but they have more spring if you charge forward into a jump. Bent 110s are much better in the pop category, unreal actually, but that strength becomes a weakness when shits fuckd up.

Got a second day skiing with the kids, super easy. Then took some solo laps to my favorite high alpine jump zones. Blind alpine 20 footer to mandatory pin through the bottom of sun crust and wet slide roller balls, all good. It was about 8" here and I wouldn't say I was tempted to go longer or mount further back. I doubt I'll ski this ski in more than a foot of pow.

Crusts: not hooky, but I doubt I could shut them down in a breakable crust as easily as the bent 120 (less sidecut), but maybe I just don't need to shut it down :-)

Crud Busting/Variable: Just really smooth in and out of bad snow and bad sub-surface, which is the number 1 quality I need.

Hard: They handled off piste "really real" ice as well as can be expected, but I grew up in Wyoming so I might be deficient in ice technique (12 Years in Austria has taught me a few things though). Just a few chutes and traverse tracks here and there, composed but not insane grip.

Groomer ice was actually fine. Nice and quiet, good grip. Regular to soft groomers were amazing. As someone noted, GS only, but who fucking cares.

Freestyle vibes were great, swing weight was not an issue, but I was just doing 180s and half-cabs. Did a lot because they were fun in soft and hard snow. Easy to manage switch in powder, easy to turn around. Revolt 104 is weird switch because it's kind of a pintail.

All in all, just the ski I was looking for, so thanks to everyone for their feedback in this thread. I didn't have new skis on the list this year, but you convinced me I needed to ditch the Bent 110 and order these beauties.

These will probably be my 80% ski, and I think I'll bump up the bent 120 to a 192 and have more surface area and power for the fresh snow days.

I'm sure I would also like the mfree 108 or the Enforcer 110, but I like my skis foward mounted. So this seems the first "big mountain charger" with a more freestyle mount by design (in the 110 category).

I had the Surface LL1 (first gen 189, with long and low kinked rocker) which I loved dearly. These have that same vibe, just better :-)

The only reason I think I would size up is to have more pop off the tails, or if I was going to use it as my only pow ski. I learned with the bent 120 to just imagine that my tips were 10cm longer and miraculously they skied like it. But I've got a low center of gravity (fat ass).

[Judo Chop!]

Only a couple days in my new 191s but I like them. They replaced 194 Devastators. Definitely not as monster-truck plow through anything, but I’m old now anyways. these feel super fun and playful and easy to ski in a do-everything-pretty-well kind way.

So what’s the 95-99 waist version of the same that comes in big lengths and can still carver groomers well? Currently on original mindbender 99ti but I think I get along better with a more centred mount.

[JRainey]

So what’s the 95-99 waist version of the same that comes in big lengths and can still carver groomers well? Currently on original mindbender 99ti but I think I get along better with a more centred mount.

I'm waiting to here about the Sender Soul 102, but otherwise I think a pair of mfree99 are in my future.

[noslow]

Blackops 98 comes in 182cm and 192cm and has the same rubber tip/tail and metal underfoot like the Sender Free 110. Like the Sender Free 110 vs MFree 108, the Blackops 98 has less rocker and less tip/tail taper so going to be less loose and more precise than the MFree 99. Lots of deals to be had on the BO 98 too.

Sender Soul 102 has a 188cm length and it’s 104mm underfoot in that length. 2200gr in that length so looks promising though.

[JRainey]

I'm just worried the blackops 98 skis more like a park ski than a freeride ski.

Are people enjoying it in low tide, semi crusty, off piste conditions?

Construction is very appealing, but the rocker profile seems like it's not for me. Happy to be wrong, cuz the deals are for real.

Sender 110 is going to fill the place for most of my low tide skiing anyway. I think 110 width is the sweet spot for general alps skiing (breakable crusts).

I'm entertaining options, the revolt 104 needs to go (just not super time sensitive).

[noslow]

The Blackops 98 mounted back a bit skis like a precise twin so pretty loose (but not MFree 99 or especially revolt 104 loose) when flat but grips well when it's on edge. Better in firm mornings or crusty days. Unleashed 98 another similar ski with more tip/tail splay but similar rocker and effective edge to the BO 98.

The Sender Soul 102 should be a quicker edge to edge 110 if you don’t mind the 104 width.

[JRainey]

Thanks. I'm on the fence about all of these. There's a big demo here in a couple weeks, I'm going to see if I can try some of these.

The new enforcer 99 looks alright, but I've need skied an enforcer and people seem to say they are "serious".

[noslow]

New Enforcer 104 might be better than the flatter tailed 99 if off piste ease is important. Supposed to be less surfy than the old Enforcer 104 Free.
The Enforcers((especially the Free models) were never a demanding ski but seemed to have a reputation for that. They often seem to be edge high from the factory which makes them feel heavier and more demanding then they should be.

[JRainey]

Yeah, I'm just thinking something with more bite and a bigger gap from the 110s could be the way to go. Cuz when it's hard around here, it can be pure fucking ice, but we can go through chalk cycles too.

Biggest problem with the enforcers is the mount point, but I guess I could go +2 or +3. The tails are a little higher so doing little 180s and stuff might not be so bad. I'll just see if I can try some.

[noslow]

Yeah, I'm just thinking something with more bite and a bigger gap from the 110s could be the way to go. Cuz when it's hard around here, it can be pure fucking ice, but we can go through chalk cycles too.

Biggest problem with the enforcers is the mount point, but I guess I could go +2 or +3. The tails are a little higher so doing little 180s and stuff might not be so bad. I'll just see if I can try some.

Try and get on the Blackops 98 then as they are sounding more like your ski. Put a more aggressive tune(1/3 maybe) on them like I have on all my wider skis and they will bite when you need it.

[JRainey]

Yeah, who am I kidding? Not a nordica person here.

Those mFree 99s are really calling me. But if you say black ops are better...

[kid-kapow]

they are not better, just different.

The BO98 has a longer effective edge and much less splay + shallower rocker zones. The MF99 ("185" that is 181.5) has a more rearward mount point and deeper rocker zones with more splay, especially out back. Both are fine skis. I would opt for BO98 if you ski with a more upright stance, the MF99 if you want something even looser that prefers a slightly more forward stance (to unlock the incredible looseness of the tails). I used to love MF99s (mounted +1), but prefer BO98s now (mounted at rec).

I tried the pair of SF110s I have mounted with Vario.2 toes and R12 heels w/freeride spacers with my new Scarpa Quattro XTs today (set up with 15deg forward lean, zappa 5.3 pr stock), and the result was very interesting. They skied freaking great - soft snow masters. In fact, they skied a lot better than the other pair I have mounted with castified pivots and use with XT3 130 LVs with spoilers and booster straps that I used back to back to compare. Better as in looser and floated better. They are both mounted at -2 from rec. Now I need to figure out of the ramp angle, forward lean or a combo is to blame, or if it is the tune. I think the former, most likely forward lean. I will try the pair mounted with pivots with RX130LVs with spoilers and Booster straps on Thursday to compare.

[JRainey]

Yeah, I'm sorting out some pin ramp issues on some Hojis I just mounted, gotta go steeper. The madness...

If I get the m free 99, I'm going 3.5 back from TC. Then I'll have 3 skis with the same length, rocker, and mount point, just in different widths. That's how my mind works.

My 100mm skis are never, ever touching real powder, so no risk of tip dive. And I'll take all the tail I can get with that much rocker. Could be the best for getting jibby and dealing with the shit.

[mr_pretzel]

Yeah, I'm sorting out some pin ramp issues on some Hojis I just mounted, gotta go steeper. The madness...

If I get the m free 99, I'm going 3.5 back from TC. Then I'll have 3 skis with the same length, rocker, and mount point, just in different widths. That's how my mind works.

My 100mm skis are never, ever touching real powder, so no risk of tip dive. And I'll take all the tail I can get with that much rocker. Could be the best for getting jibby and dealing with the shit.

The mfree is gonna feel pretty akward that far forward, the camber is just not setup to go much forward.

[JRainey]

It's just hard for me to imagine. The rocker/camber looks pretty even. I guess the thickest part of the ski is maybe gonna be closer to my heel. A softer tip and stronger tails sounds fine. I could see how I could get too into the taper though.

I skied the the OG Renegades (#29) at 3cm from TC for a whole season due to a remount, and didn't want to go back. Hated it in powder, but they were so amazing when it wasn't deep.

I just can't imagine some people on the dynafit team aren't riding them like twin tips.


I'll close up the thread drift, and let you know in the dynastar thread if I ever try it.