23/24 Gear Rumors

[GoldenBC]

Pretty nice. I will be popular. The Hawx is definitely tighter in the ankle and looser in the forefoot, not necessarily at the widest part of the Mets but in a way that makes it fit more evenly.

[GoldenBC]

OMG one more reason

I walk 95% flat
I know this is very me

It’s a deal breaker to me if I got a shift again because they magically fixed the heel pre release.

[Rob Stokes]

Zipfits, tech fitting and no walk mode. I am into these. [emoji106]

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[TripleT]

Zipfits, tech fitting and no walk mode. I am into these. [emoji106]

what the use case of inserts but no walk mode....?

[BeHuWe]

what the use case of inserts but no walk mode....?

Side country or a skin track with very little flat?

Ive had lange RS’s with tech fittings for years and now use a krypton with tech inserts for side/slack/sled skiing.

Niche for sure, but these with a cast system/duke/shift are probably who it’s marketed too.


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[meter-man]

what the use case of inserts but no walk mode....?

For me:
Resort sidecountry
Patrol
[Heli - not me]

I much prefer a full alpine boot. Having tech fittings means its no worries to use when I might but probably wont need to skin. Or if you skin but not a big day of skinning.

I did my first 2 seasons touring in full alpine boots...and Fristchis... So, while I would never recommend skinning in full alpine boots, it's not the worst thing in the world. I have already tried that!!

I have the last run of Kryptons with the fittings.

[SeatownSlackey]

Limited use for sure but would be nice for inbound riding on dual use skis mounted with tectons or other burl pin clamps.


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[GoldenBC]

$80 add on for good marketing hype and pleases a few pros and niche people. I would be curious if it would actually serve CAST and Shift people better than a hybrid considering the my tend not to tour much at all but at least they can if they want. But then they have better hill performance.

[PinyonJuniper5]

Are there fittings in the heel too? Or just the toe?


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[GoldenBC]

Just the toe, no walk mode.

[gaijin]

For my needs in Japan, that's fucking rad, and is my next boot if it fits. Not having to shell out 400 bucks to have CAST do it to my Langes sounds awesome.

Funny how I haven't even skied it and have no idea if it sucks.

Any other solutions for tech fittings in my Lange RS aside from CAST doing it?

[mr_pretzel]

For my needs in Japan, that's fucking rad, and is my next boot if it fits. Not having to shell out 400 bucks to have CAST do it to my Langes sounds awesome.

Funny how I haven't even skied it and have no idea if it sucks.

Any other solutions for tech fittings in my Lange RS aside from CAST doing it?

Get the K2 recon 140 on sale which Tom says was designed with a similar last to the RS

[SnowMachine]

I am surprised how often I encounter people in the wild touring on shifts and heavy ass skis, it might be the single most represented binding.

Was at a busy trailhead in Colorado last weekend and I swear a full 50% of the skis I saw in the parking lot had shifts on them.

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Almost all of my touring has been on Shifts (had some Tyrolia Ambition's before). I could deal with all of their shortcomings except heel elasticity. I have Duke PT's now. They haven't been touring yet, but they resort ski well (only 2 days so far).

My touring is very limited as a Dad with kids that ski. Once my kids are old enough to tour with me maybe I'll get a more serious setup. For now the Duke PT makes sense.

FWIW, the Duke PT is gaining popularity quickly out here. At least with resort/slack country users. In our locker room Dukes outnumber Shifts probably 5:1 this year. Very few Shifts left in rotation.

I'd try them again if they make changes to the heel.

[SnowMachine]

Zipfits, tech fitting and no walk mode. I am into these. [emoji106]

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Really a cool resort addition with the Duke PT. Toss your skins in your jacket/vest/pack and you're ready for a slack country or hiking mission.

I'm generally OK skinning with my buckles loosened. I've had times with my XT3's that they locked out of walk mode and I didn't notice.

[Rob Stokes]

Get the K2 recon 140 on sale which Tom says was designed with a similar last to the RS

Thanks for that heads up, I didn't know they existed.

This type of boot is exactly what I want, a no compromise resort boot with the ability to click into a cast/shift/Duke for an occasional 20min skin.

I don't wanna be touring far on a shift anyway, I have a proper touring set up for proper touring.

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[GoldenBC]

Really a cool resort addition with the Duke PT. Toss your skins in your jacket/vest/pack and you're ready for a slack country or hiking mission.

I'm generally OK skinning with my buckles loosened. I've had times with my XT3's that they locked out of walk mode and I didn't notice.

What about your avy gear?

[hick]

What about your avy gear?

Thank you for adding that. The idea that slack country is not backcountry is really gaining popularity unfortunately around here (Bridger Bowl).


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[FloridaSnow]

Thanks for that heads up, I didn't know they existed.

This type of boot is exactly what I want, a no compromise resort boot with the ability to click into a cast/shift/Duke for an occasional 20min skin.

I don't wanna be touring far on a shift anyway, I have a proper touring set up for proper touring.

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boa team 140 won’t be till next season. So I’d wait for that over the buckle version. Or get the Fischer. Though that lakers themed colors are absolutely hideous

[hick]

What about your avy gear?

Thank you for adding that. The idea that slack country is not backcountry is really gaining popularity unfortunately around here (Bridger Bowl).


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[mr_pretzel]

Anyone know if fischer is doing tech toes on the LV?

[kid-kapow]

not news, but more info on the new Dynafit Ridge Pro touring boot with some useful closeups detailing the internal mechanism.


I can't help but wonder what if any progressivity is in the flex of these - as much as a 1200gr boot can be progressive when being supportive. The current version of the Hoji lock seems to create a system with very limited forward progressiveness due to the two contact points on the side of the system touching parts of the lower shell that cannot bend in any meaningful way. This is obviously less of a concern if you are only banging out laps in fresh snow off piste, yet your shins will still take a beating if you have to ski variable or icy snow. Time will tell.

[gaijin]

Get the K2 recon 140 on sale which Tom says was designed with a similar last to the RS

Cheers for that!

[rod9301]

not news, but more info on the new Dynafit Ridge Pro touring boot with some useful closeups detailing the internal mechanism.


I can't help but wonder what if any progressivity is in the flex of these - as much as a 1200gr boot can be progressive when being supportive. The current version of the Hoji lock seems to create a system with very limited forward progressiveness due to the two contact points on the side of the system touching parts of the lower shell that cannot bend in any meaningful way. This is obviously less of a concern if you are only banging out laps in fresh snow off piste, yet your shins will still take a beating if you have to ski variable or icy snow. Time will tell.

I've been skiing for two years on the hoji 130 and no shin bang at all. I actually feel they are pretty progressive.

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[whambat]

Really a cool resort addition with the Duke PT. Toss your skins in your jacket/vest/pack and you're ready for a slack country or hiking mission.

I'm generally OK skinning with my buckles loosened. I've had times with my XT3's that they locked out of walk mode and I didn't notice.

after finding a crack in my Cochise 130 dyns, I’ve gone back to my Lange Rx130s I had Cast do the tech fittings. Unless I can get Technician to warranty, I think I may be back to riveted boots with this kinda setup for 90% of my skiing. These Fischers look cool.

[Judo Chop!]

Cheers for that!

FYI on the k2. I got a buckles pair, but after trying for shell fit with my fitter, it was too big. 2+ finger vs 1 finger fit in same same mondo lange. Looking at the heel pockets they were visibly different, with the k2 looking larger/wider (yet well shaped). Can’t comment on how the boa version might fit differently or not.
Now unfortunately I’m returning them and back in a new pair of langes again.

The K2 seemed like a really nice boot though, and the pin inserts are pretty appealing.