23/24 Gear Rumors

[HukuTa_KydecHuk]

Exactly. Here's a pair of daywreckers on some Volkl Three's. LMAO. I ski those guys like once every 3 years, ain't no way I'm mounting real bindings on them.

I mean... why don't you just mount them with inserts? Then, when it is the right day, just switch bindings within 5 minutes. Donate trekkers to somebody and sell demo binders and you even have a cash for some beer

[Jason4]

I've seen crazier things than Daymakers with tech toes. I'm a splitboarder that uses AT ski boots, I regularly skin past skiers on snowshoes carrying their alpine skis (mostly early season before the lifts are spinning or after the lifts have closed), I have friends that snowboard and own multiple pairs of snowshoes that all get used more than their brand new splitboards (for jump building) and I see skiers that take longer to transition than splitboarders as they fiddle with ice in the toe pieces of their CAST system. Everything is a compromise, I wish I had enough money to buy every pair of skis I wanted with both alpine bindings and touring bindings but I don't.

It will be interesting to see if any of these show up in avalanche classes or "intro to backcountry" classes this winter.

[muted reborn]

so why wouldn’t you just put cast on those skis or a duke pt. Back to the original point. Duke pt can be found right now for $50 more new and you can at least sell them if you don’t like them. day-wreckers you could always donate I guess.

I don't want to remount my skis for something I'd need for a few times a year or use shit bindings like Dukes that I have hated and broken in the past.

[arild]

I don't want to remount my skis for something I'd need for a few times a year or use shit bindings like Dukes that I have hated and broken in the past.

Ok boomer.

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[Benneke10]

It is pretty dumb that Marker reused the "Duke" branding for the Duke PT. Its an entirely new binding and the old Duke was shit.

[muted reborn]

Ok boomer.

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I like a good teasing, but that doesn't make sense. All I'm saying is you three are looking like smug ding dongs ripping on something pretty simple to understand. it's also simple to say it's not for you and move on.

[arild]

I like a good teasing, but that doesn't make sense. All I'm saying is you three are looking like smug ding dongs ripping on something pretty simple to understand. it's also simple to say it's not for you and move on.

I may be a smug ding dong, but you pulled out the boomer cannon first. If the pin decked Alpine trekkers weren't such a shitty idea given the very many better alternatives, I wouldn't be ripping on it.

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[SoVT Joey]

I don't want to remount my skis for something I'd need for a few times a year or use shit bindings like Dukes that I have hated and broken in the past.

first. I’m 36. So stuff your boomer comment in your ass. Second you apparently are the boomer that’s incapable of googling the difference between and duke and a duke pt. Third. If the daywreckers were so good, there would be tons of them being used and other companies would be trying to help develop a better idea, which is definitely not happing.

in other words, you are an idiot.

[arild]

I've seen crazier things than Daymakers with tech toes. I'm a splitboarder that uses AT ski boots, I regularly skin past skiers on snowshoes carrying their alpine skis (mostly early season before the lifts are spinning or after the lifts have closed), I have friends that snowboard and own multiple pairs of snowshoes that all get used more than their brand new splitboards (for jump building) and I see skiers that take longer to transition than splitboarders as they fiddle with ice in the toe pieces of their CAST system. Everything is a compromise, I wish I had enough money to buy every pair of skis I wanted with both alpine bindings and touring bindings but I don't.

It will be interesting to see if any of these show up in avalanche classes or "intro to backcountry" classes this winter.

Qft.

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[arild]

first. I’m 36. So stuff your boomer comment in your ass. Second you apparently are the boomer that’s incapable of googling the difference between and duke and a duke pt. Third. If the daywreckers were so good, there would be tons of them being used and other companies would be trying to help develop a better idea, which is definitely not happing.

in other words, you are an idiot.

I'm 37, fwiw.

TLDR on the modern trekkers: some people apparently are willing to spend good money on that contraption.

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[SnakeMagnet]

Give it a few years and they'll be flooding craigslist just like the post-lockdown-regret shifts.

[westoxified]

first. I’m 36. So stuff your boomer comment in your ass.

are we boofing shrooms now in the new gear thread? this is the next level innovation that i'm here for.

[2FUNKY]

are we boofing shrooms now in the new gear thread? this is the next level innovation that i'm here for.

Boomer tea enema. All the cool kids are doing it.


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[SoVT Joey]

are we boofing shrooms now in the new gear thread? this is the next level innovation that i'm here for.

ya, but only distilled boomers. Kills the upset stomach. New era drug stuff.

[ASmileyFace]

Have any of you ever seen a pair of these Daymakers in the wild? I work in a shop that shares space with a guide service. Over the last few years I've interacted with 20-30 level 1 courses and I have maybe seen a single pair of the daymaker Classics ever.

I just struggle to figure out who these new daymakers are for. The classics made a lot more sense for certain use cases like early season touring on your rock skis, beater-ing around the side country, loaning out a set to a friend or just not owning touring boots at all.

Adding pins to the mix just makes you scratch your head. The only user group I can see wanting this daymaker owns a quiver of one boot and want to ski their alpine gear in the BC... but doesn't want to buy a shift/duke pt. Which has got to be a tiny chunk of the market. Instead of refining the daymaker classic to accommodate pins or have a lower stack height they built an entirely new product. All of it is just baffling.

[dmcd]

While I find it baffling from the perspective of "there's like maybe 12 people this makes sense for" the rationale for why they personally developed it kind of makes sense. They mention on their site that they all blew their knees out which has lead them to want to only ski down on full alpine bindings. The pin binding version weighs substantially less and probably walks better than the classic version so if you want this thing and it's your company then why not.

[muted reborn]

first. I’m 36. So stuff your boomer comment in your ass. Second you apparently are the boomer that’s incapable of googling the difference between and duke and a duke pt. Third. If the daywreckers were so good, there would be tons of them being used and other companies would be trying to help develop a better idea, which is definitely not happing.

in other words, you are an idiot.

The boomer joke is a sure fire way to ruffle feathers, no matter the age. just means yer an out of touch ding-dong.

The difference between a duke and a duke pt has nothing to do anything it's all about you guys not understanding a daymaker's user, which i was giving you shit for because only you were sooooo smug about how smart you are. Not saying it's a great product, not saying it's better than anything out there, yes I agree there are better options for MOST people, not saying many people will buy them, just telling you some potential use cases where it works fine - because you all couldn't figure it out. That's it.

Anyways, you three ding dongs have great knowledge on 99% of the products you talk about and are rarely smug and condescending, so overall you gear thoughts are much appreciated by me.

[ASmileyFace]

Daymaker is responding to questions over on newschoolers. I still wonder "is the juice worth the squeeze" but there are a few other user types they mention.

Best of luck to em I guess

[f=ma]

I mean... why don't you just mount them with inserts? Then, when it is the right day, just switch bindings within 5 minutes. Donate trekkers to somebody and sell demo binders and you even have a cash for some beer

Shrug...That's too much work, just fuck around the sidecountry...

[theetruscan]

what ever happened to tgr coming together to hate on shit?


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[Eluder]

It is pretty dumb that Marker reused the "Duke" branding for the Duke PT. Its an entirely new binding and the old Duke was shit.

Really? The duke had its problems but it was a game changer at the time.

[Benneke10]

Really? The duke had its problems but it was a game changer at the time.

Totally, I meant that its not good in the context of the current crop of options

[ASmileyFace]

Marker isn't known for making good decision about anything binding related. If the Duke PT had a totally new name, I actually think it might have sold better considering it was a better binding than the Shift.

[halliday]

If you already have pin inserts in your boots you probably already have some sort of tech toe touring/resort set up. This seems like a solution looking for a problem. If you are going to buy new boots with tech inserts to have the flexibility of a Duke or CAST you will probably go with those choices of bindings and not Daymaker with pins.

[SoVT Joey]

Marker isn't known for making good decision about anything binding related.

the company with the most bindings on the World Cup has never made a good decision? That’s quite the statement.

just because the kingpin toes were a shit show 10 years ago…