Personally, i couldnt care less what HR has to say (unless there are HR issues with the candidate). They have zero idea what the employee is like from a work perspective, they just know the HR problems the candidate had. And, who better to give another manager insight into a candidate than their previous manager (its managers doing the hiring after all).
And if someone has an axe to grind, it would be good to know why. Its all additional data points that get collected and evaluated. The overall point being that you better be REALLY sure long-term, if you decide to go off in your exit interview. Its pretty much never worth it.
After handing over my orange apron during my exit interview, I handed the Asst Store Mgr. a copy of this.
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Seeker of Truth. Dispenser of Wisdom. Protector of the Weak. Avenger of Evil.
Just do the interview & don't say anything bad or really much of anything
I remember the manager with the stick up his ass asking a team mate about something or other and he said " sorry I can't comment on that shit "
manager does double take and that was the end of it
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
maybe instead of the exit crop dusting, you can airdrop nudes?
https://thehill.com/homenews/3622626...-entire-plane/
I left a terrible employer when I was in my mid 20s. It was the US subsidiary of a German company. The US operation was extremely toxic and run two people- one who was incompetent, the other who was a compulsive liar with NPD.
I was on reasonably good terms with the German CEO and he emailed me asking if there was an issue with the guys running the US subsidiary. I was so convinced that I was going to need to use them as a reference that I didn't say anything. In retrospect, I wish I had.
It's been 10 years and I've never used them as a reference.
The wouldn't it be funny if... stuff is way more fun to talk about than than the truth... tell the truth or don't say much of anything if you get the vibe that the truth won't go over well..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
It's rare, but my current employer looked around for people that they knew at my prior companies I worked at to get sense of who I was at those companies - they called them without my knowledge. I understand that my current employer is pickier than most and did all kinds of psych testing, etc that others don't do as well. But reaching out to prior employers is standard for them to do at certain levels.
Also, I was definitely honest at my first exit interview 10 years in. The boss was a massive HR liability, and I was worried for the young ladies on our team. Moved out of state but looked over my shoulder for the first year afterwards, it was that bad. But nothing ever happened to me.
Emboldened by doing that bit of good, another 10 or so years after that and I was honest once again in my next exit interview. A high level peer was a catastrophe to their team and, while not a danger like in the first instance, the team's work life was awful and no one dared say a word about the psycho. Down the road, they wanted me back at a much higher level and that person got in the way of it enough to derail it at the last second because no one ever did anything about it the first time except sweep it under the rug.
If I ever exit again, I will keep it bland and boring, just in case. FWIW
jesus christ
this thread is the mirror of society
do the exit interview
if anything you will grow from the opportunity (even though we all know the majoirty of americans have given up on anytype of self growth or reflection)
now my 20 year old self fucked up and walked off and talked tons of shit but once I got older and wiser I relized what its about specially once I realized I live in a tiny little town and I have to face some of these people occassionally
being honest with people (no one is this fucking country can do that)
be open and be honest
for every negative thing you say be sure to say two positive things its not fucking hard but yeah maybe it takes critical thinking skills to do the most basic of a conversation these days since everything has become shit talk and garbage on the internet
don't throw anyone under the bus that is the lamest shit in the world and so easy I deal with it daily don't throw people under the bus
if you have a problem with someone spin in a positive way say I wish they could improve on this and that
Always be postive about an experiece even though it was like anal sex the first time
Would it be possible to get a letter of rec. dated before submitting to the interview? That, plus maybe monetary compensation for the interview, might persuade me to consent. Otherwise, you have nothing to gain.
“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
So where's the TR?
Wait, how can we trust this guy^^^ He's clearly not DJSapp
I offer exit interviews to all my departing staff and summer/auxiliary hires. Some engage in the process, some do not. Some just want to get shit off their chest. Themes for leaving are usually consistent with personality type, and that is OK. And sometimes a glimmer of an actionable change can come out of the conversation, especially from the younger demographic. Often I couple the interview with a paid lunch or after work session at the local watering hole.
As for background checks, I always request to call the previous supervisor and one other reference of their choice. It is up to them if they wish to provide the last supervisor/boss. I advise prospective hires to contact those references in advance of my call so nothing is unexpected. If they are internal hires, I can contact their previous/current supervisor without their permission. Never had an issue come back via HR for doing this, but the laws in Canada must be different in that regard. Salaries are also public record, so everything above board in that regard as well.
Crazy times and staff mobility is at an all time high. Really hard to recruit to the smaller towns with real estate and rentals cost high and inventory low right now. Will be conducting recruiting sessions in a month or so at the various post-secondary institutions. Haven’t had to do that in many years.
Right? I mean, if the person is being canned or otherwise let go for unsatisfactory performance, then maybe an exit interview isn’t the right tool. If they are leaving on good terms, the least I can do is pay for a light meal or buy them a libation on my dime, and wish them future success.
Usually it’s a cardboard box to collect your personal items while security watches your every move.
Kicked to the curb.
That’s how large corporations roll
Exit interviews shouldn’t be conducted by the employee’s direct manager.
If a company is having issues with a manager and wants to terminate, one of the first things done is to pull the exit interviews.
Think of it as the one time an employee gets to give their manager a review.
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I got a journalist buddy and she sez you want people to talk in an interview feed them coffee or booze
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
Cocaine.
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Not just large corporations- plenty of straight ahead greedy bastards in small business.
But let's not be distracted, I'm a free unemployed man now!
Starting a new job might feel great, but leaving it feels even better.
Oh, and me and HR took turns blowing smoke for twenty minutes. Placid, painless, and pointless. Much like the job I just left. JAJAJAJA!!
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