Water.....

[bodywhomper]

New waters of the US definition has been posted.

[J. Barron DeJong]

https://x.com/dwallacewells/status/1...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

[gravitylover]

Hmm. So, it was a mistake to move our food production away from the east where it rains. It's also an epic fail letting so many water intensive crops be grown where there isn't much water and then sending much of it overseas.

I drive around NY and New England and look at all of the thousands of acres of empty farmland being taken over by invasives and goldenrod and hundreds of orchards fading into oblivion and think "why aren't we feeding the world?" Then I realized we are, sort of. We're just going about it all wrong.

[From_the_NEK]

Hmm. So, it was a mistake to move our food production away from the east where it rains. It's also an epic fail letting so many water intensive crops be grown where there isn't much water and then sending much of it overseas.

I drive around NY and New England and look at all of the thousands of acres of empty farmland being taken over by invasives and goldenrod and hundreds of orchards fading into oblivion and think "why aren't we feeding the world?" Then I realized we are, sort of. We're just going about it all wrong.

I think it had something to do with taking advantage of the much longer growing season in the Southwest. But policies have certainly made it a lot harder to grow crops in the northeast despite usually having a surplus of water.

[SkiBall]

Heard some blurb about them barging in fresh water to Louisiana due to the drought, and there is salt water incursion up into the Mississippi River due to depleted flow. At one point there was entertaining the thought of piping water from the Miss westward. But somehow the tributaries aren’t supplying enough. Do I have that right?

[shroom]

humans taking something for granted? never

[schuss]

I think it had something to do with taking advantage of the much longer growing season in the Southwest. But policies have certainly made it a lot harder to grow crops in the northeast despite usually having a surplus of water.

Also, significant amounts of New England and upstate NY farmland is rolling hills or somewhat uneven terrain, which complicates modern efficiency gains designed around the flat Midwest and southwest.

[gravitylover]

Policies, efficiencies, longer growing seasons... Blah. If there isn't enough water NONE of that matters. Grow food where things like to grow.

[Timberridge]

Policies, efficiencies, longer growing seasons... Blah. If there isn't enough water NONE of that matters. Grow food where things like to grow.

Have you ever tried to plow a field in New England? It's nothing but rocks.

[skaredshtles]

Have you ever tried to plow a field in New England? It's nothing but rocks.

Build a wall!

[muted reborn]

Have you ever tried to plow a field in New England? It's nothing but rocks.

Out west farmers have taken on multi year projects just to get irrigation to their rocky fields. Get to work, son. Those walls won't build themselves.

[gravitylover]

Have you ever tried to plow a field in New England? It's nothing but rocks.

The Northeast has two harvests a year. In the spring you pull the rox that got pushed up by the frost then, as is the case everywhere else, food in the fall. Higher elevation fields can have a rock harvest in early winter if there's a significant thaw.

[Harry]

That’s a fun graphic. I just spent the last 30 minutes staring at it visualizing canoe trips on all the different river systems.

Note: I visited a dispensary in the UP yesterday.

[old goat]

I think it had something to do with taking advantage of the much longer growing season in the Southwest. But policies have certainly made it a lot harder to grow crops in the northeast despite usually having a surplus of water.

the place with 360 sunny days is not the place with the water. Who knew.

[TBS]

That’s a fun graphic. I just spent the last 30 minutes staring at it visualizing canoe trips on all the different river systems.

Note: I visited a dispensary in the UP yesterday.

The visualizing came after the dispo visit?

[SkiBall]

That’s a fun graphic. I just spent the last 30 minutes staring at it visualizing canoe trips on all the different river systems.

Note: I visited a dispensary in the UP yesterday.

I like your perspective.

[Toadman]

Way too much of it right now in NYC.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/weath...day/index.html

[Bunion 2020]

^^^ Perfectly normal.

The winter seers are now declaring an El Nino for the ages, whatever that means.

[gravitylover]

Ya want water? Come and get it. There's entirely too much here. I'm over 20" just this month. Fuk this

[Toadman]

Ya want water? Come and get it. There's entirely too much here. I'm over 20" just this month. Fuk this

Feast or famine. Or is it droughts or floods?

[gravitylover]

8.6" at JFK today. You can't drive north out of NYC right now, and haven't been able to since around noon, because almost every N/S road is closed from flooding and the trains are down heading north, east and most of the western lines.

Too much water.

It's (past) time for that national pipeline system I've been yammering about for a few decades.

[halliday]

I left Ossining at 1315 and the roads were flooded. 15 MPH on the Sawmill. Six hours to Absecon, NJ from Ossining.

[Toadman]

NYC, the New Venice.

[SkiBall]

I thought I heard once that the secret to the flavor of NY pizza crust and bagels was the water.

[gravitylover]

That's right but it's the stuff that comes out of the 100+ year old iron and lead pipes. It adds that special essence...