If only there was something we could do...

[Ted Striker]

Jesus that sounds like an absolutely miserable place to live.

Strange thing about it is that I think he's talking about Raleigh/Durham, which is a great place to visit.

[AK47bp]

Whenever I see a random guy open carrying his pistol in the grocery store, I know that he is a scared impotent child living out his fantasies.
I laugh at them and yet feel bad for them.
You are a sad person.

This exactly.

Other than MTT, does anyone look at someone with a gun on their hip at the grocery store and NOT think “whoa, we’ve got a giant pussy here”?

Reminds me of my early 20’s bar hopping in the city, our rural friends would come meet us sometimes and always bring their guns. They were the biggest pussies ever.


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

Something that was drilled into me in police academy was that if you are carrying a gun and get into any confrontation (even an extremely minor one), it’s now an armed confrontation, which ups the consequences should something go sideways.

Most people that open or concealed carry don’t have that level of respect for the weapon. Its remarkably easy to get a gun away from someone in a scuffle. It’s also easy to see every conflict as solvable with a gun when you have one on your hip, rather than doing things like removing yourself from the situation, or de-escalating. I’ll freely admit most cops aren’t good at this either, which is a part of why we have so many unnecessary police shootings. And they’re ostensibly better trained than almost any regular Joe carrying out on the street.

So no, having more people carry more guns isn’t the answer. Most people don’t have the respect for guns they need to have to maturely use them. When you see it as a fun toy that goes boom and blows shit up, or see yourself as some Wild West macho gunslinger, you’re a part of the problem. Guns are tools that violently end lives, regardless of if you’re on the “good” or “bad” side of them.

Haven’t you seen MTT stumbling around the range? He’s like Jack Reacher


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[k2skier112]

[ötzi]

Thougth about posting that too, it's a perfect take on the subject.

[SumJongGuy]

Jesus that sounds like an absolutely miserable place to live.


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Only if you live in fear all the time. We're a mile from Cameron and Wallace Wade stadiums on Duke campus.Sat in our hot tub and listened to The Rolling Stones playing live outdoors there a few years ago. We're 2 miles from The Durham Bulls Athletic Park. We saw Hamilton at the downtown Durham Performing Art;s Center last Friday night. Tons of good shows there.

We're also less than 3 hours away from the best beaches in the nation and equal distance from skiing that's way better than the central MN and WI skiing I grew up in. Highest elevation lift served skiing east of the Mississippi.

If you consider that miserable that's on you. Only thing that sucks is too many damned people carrying guns and leaving them in their cars so now continuing the generational cycles of gun violence. I'm not going to contribute to that cycle of death, nor am I going to live in fear of it.

[mcski]

Im convinced the only way we will ever get gun control is if POC all started to open carry in massive numbers. Then legislation would get enacted and passed in about 5 minutes flat

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Only if you live in fear all the time. We're a mile from Cameron and Wallace Wade stadiums on Duke campus.Sat in our hot tub and listened to The Rolling Stones playing live outdoors there a few years ago. We're 2 miles from The Durham Bulls Athletic Park. We saw Hamilton at the downtown Durham Performing Art;s Center last Friday night. Tons of good shows there.

We're also less than 3 hours away from the best beaches in the nation and equal distance from skiing that's way better than the central MN and WI skiing I grew up in. Highest elevation lift served skiing east of the Mississippi.

If you consider that miserable that's on you. Only thing that sucks is too many damned people carrying guns and leaving them in their cars so now continuing the generational cycles of gun violence. I'm not going to contribute to that cycle of death, nor am I going to live in fear of it.

Sounds like a war zone, or maybe you’ve never been in a war zone


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[ötzi]

"Best beaches in the country" is pretty f'n debatable. I've been to most of the bigger NC beaches and they're awesome but so are a lot places.

Saying shit like that might get you shot, to get back on topic.

[Buzzworthy]

Walked in to my neighborhood wingz and beer joint two days ago. Some guy in there is open carry. Dalton was behind the bar and we start discussing said guy. Eventually guy joins our conversation.

His only reason he had to carry a firearm into a bar was “it’s my right”. Never discussed protection at all. He had no good answers to any of our questions.

But it’s his right.

[riser4]

Something that was drilled into me in police academy was that if you are carrying a gun and get into any confrontation (even an extremely minor one), it’s now an armed confrontation, which ups the consequences should something go sideways.

Most people that open or concealed carry don’t have that level of respect for the weapon. Its remarkably easy to get a gun away from someone in a scuffle. It’s also easy to see every conflict as solvable with a gun when you have one on your hip, rather than doing things like removing yourself from the situation, or de-escalating. I’ll freely admit most cops aren’t good at this either, which is a part of why we have so many unnecessary police shootings. And they’re ostensibly better trained than almost any regular Joe carrying out on the street.

So no, having more people carry more guns isn’t the answer. Most people don’t have the respect for guns they need to have to maturely use them. When you see it as a fun toy that goes boom and blows shit up, or see yourself as some Wild West macho gunslinger, you’re a part of the problem. Guns are tools that violently end lives, regardless of if you’re on the “good” or “bad” side of them.

Thank you for this perspective.

[plugboots]

Couple years ago I was getting tires at Goodyear in Kennewick WA. I walk in and guy waiting at the counter has a gun in a holster. Fits the description Ted describes.
I turned around and waited outside in my car.

[Ted Striker]

Im convinced the only way we will ever get gun control is if POC all started to open carry in massive numbers. Then legislation would get enacted and passed in about 5 minutes flat

Chappelle agrees

[SumJongGuy]

"Best beaches in the country" is pretty f'n debatable. I've been to most of the bigger NC beaches and they're awesome but so are a lot places.

Saying shit like that might get you shot, to get back on topic.

I've been to a few too.. Cape, Martha's, Fire Island, Montauk, San Diego, So Florida, etc.... What NC has is the nice white sand of Montawk and Cape Cod but much warmer water early and late season.

But ya definitely intended to start some shit..

[abraham]

Im convinced the only way we will ever get gun control is if POC all started to open carry in massive numbers. Then legislation would get enacted and passed in about 5 minutes flat

Getting there? Too far?

[schuss]

Getting there? Too far?

That flag offends me in that the design is seizure inducing

[seano732]

[schuss]

In NH, gun on your hip means they're going to chew your ear about being a libertarian. Not as bad as getting shot, but still sucks the life out of you.

[BobMc]

Dalton was behind the bar.

[plugboots]

White bread section is pretty good, but it would be better if she was in the cracker section.

[Ted Striker]

In NH, gun on your hip means they're going to chew your ear about being a libertarian. Not as bad as getting shot, but still sucks the life out of you.

Not sure what it means there, but here libertarian means Christian men have complete impunity while women know their place, and schools only teach a finely cherry picked curriculum. And of course, all while paying no taxes.

[abraham]

That flag offends me in that the design is seizure inducing

The internet is a weird place.

[schuss]

Not sure what it means there, but here libertarian means Christian men have complete impunity while women know their place, and schools only teach a finely cherry picked curriculum. And of course, all while paying no taxes.

Free state project chose NH, so we have hardcore libertarians everywhere, in the "cut all services, I can do what I want variety."
Some predictable things happened when they went full re-errrr libertarian
http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/poli...ngoltz-hetling

[Buster Highmen]

I remove myself as quickly as possible from any locale with a visible gun.
Kind of like cops, if they're around, I make myself scarce because I want to minimize that kind of exposure.

[SKIP IN7RO]

Fox News mom right there. She probably smokes in the house.