If only there was something we could do...

[skiJ]

respectfully, I will contest the ' 90% have driven intoxicated' claim - I know this is tgr and all, but, yeah - no. I believe you see a skewed view of society in the Emergency Department. hang in ; ski season is coming... skiJ

[skaredshtles]

Complete apples to oranges comparison but so be it:

11-12k deaths per year secondary to drunk driving.

Can we ban alcohol?

I’m completely serious. Thirty years in the ER and it’s a huge part of our every day routine. Drunk after drunk. Alcohol related violence, deaths, illness, dysfunction. I’d argue the net negative effects on society probably eclipse gun issues. Nobody gives a fuck.

People like their booze as much or more than their guns. And it’s bipartisan.


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Sorry, man, but this is an apples to alien abduction comparison.

[Trackhead]

Sure. But if this is an either / or situation (which it obviously is not), I'd rather put effort into regulating the thing that is designed to kill people rather than the thing that incidentally kills people.

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Agreed. Just find comparisons interesting.


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[KQ]

Complete apples to oranges comparison but so be it:

11-12k deaths per year secondary to drunk driving.

Can we ban alcohol?

I’m completely serious. Thirty years in the ER and it’s a huge part of our every day routine. Drunk after drunk. Alcohol related violence, deaths, illness, dysfunction. I’d argue the net negative effects on society probably eclipse gun issues. Nobody gives a fuck.

People like their booze as much or more than their guns. And it’s bipartisan.


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My best friend drank herself to death.

Dated a guy who was an alcoholic eye surgeon. He used to take beta blockers to keep his hands steady. Alcohol totally fucked up his life and all he worked for.

A HS friend was drunk at a party and decided he could do a backflip off the railing of the deck. Turns out he couldn't. Now he's a quadriplegic.

Got lots more stories if anyone wants to hear them.

Alcohol is bad m"kay.....

[mcski]

Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

[Trackhead]

Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

Propranolol (beta blocker) would have been beneficial for the would be Trump assassin.


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[KQ]

Lots of surgeon types take beta blockers. I just learned about this but it’s been a thing for a long time. Lots of actors take em too. Who knew. Maybe they’d work on potential shooters and calm them the fuck down as well

He took them because he was a drunk.

[riser4]

After im done being sick to my stomach, ima post this: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/us/ho...h-shooting-wwk

We didn't he just yell at the kids to get off his lawn?

[Trackhead]

Man, we did ding dong ditch all the time as kids, never got shot. This asshole shot the kid in the back. WTF? He's not going to last long in prison.

They just just give him a handgun and give him the offer to kill himself immediately.