If only there was something we could do...

[skaredshtles]

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This has worked for me in the past. If these tards would quit quoting your stupidity it would still be working.

[SumJongGuy]

I prefer to know exactly how ridiculous (and/or dangerous) the morans are who disagree with me on key issues. No way in hell I'm blocking anybody.

[anotherVTskibum]

In what culture does someone absentmindedly lose track of their handgun and not be concerned enough to find it and secure it?

I imagine he was like “huh I don’t know where I left my pistol. Well - off I go on my trip I’m sure it will turn up someday. Shit if it doesn’t turn up I guess I’ll have to go get a new one.”

I'm assuming he thought it was somewhere it belonged, maybe even locked up, and failed to double-check. This is why I go through the backpack I use on the hill and as a carry on carefully before heading to the airport--I don't ski with a handgun, but TSA wouldn't be a fan of my screwdrivers, either.

Honestly, I'm kinda surprised he didn't stash it on the plane rather than carrying it into customs and declaring it. I wouldn't expect that to go over well, especially in Hong Kong.

[ex-powderbroker]

fkn tsa threw out my unopened peanut butter.

OBL won.

[Bunion 2020]

I'm assuming he thought it was somewhere it belonged, maybe even locked up, and failed to double-check. This is why I go through the backpack I use on the hill and as a carry on carefully before heading to the airport--I don't ski with a handgun, but TSA wouldn't be a fan of my screwdrivers, either.

You should try it with a backpack that has held explosives and been liberally slathered in explosive residue.

[schuss]

fkn tsa threw out my unopened peanut butter.

OBL won.

The border hungers..... mostly for PB&J's

[TBS]

fkn tsa threw out my unopened peanut butter.

OBL won.

TSA took a snow globe my daughter was bringing home for a Mother’s Day present because it contained more than four oz of liquid.

Yup the terrorists won

[SumJongGuy]

TSA took a snow globe my daughter was bringing home for a Mother’s Day present because it contained more than four oz of liquid.

Yup the terrorists won

I'm sure THEIR mother loved it..

[leroy jenkins]

It’s mindblowing that we as a country cannot pass any federal legislation that would at least be an attempt to prevent someone this mentally ill from getting guns, especially weapons of war. Look gun nuts, the left doesn’t want to come for your guns. They want to try to prevent things like this happening over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. And Yes, it’s a two issue problem: mental health AND the guns.

You've given your own explanation.

You say the left doesn't want to come for anyones guns, but you also say you want additional gun control just because it would 'at least be an attempt to prevent...'

You don't have an objective description of just what gun control is going to be most effective or useful, or pose the most benefit for the least amount of negative impact to law abiding gun owners, you just want additional gun control because at least its an attempt to do something. The problem with this, is if gun control doesn't solve the problem, you will ALWAYS want just a little bit more because at least its an attempt to do SOMETHING.

If the ideal amount of gun control is always 'current situation plus a few more laws' you absolutely are advocating for gun confiscation. Its not like you have a couple or a few restrictions that you'll be stoked about, and then back off supporting additional restrictions because we already have enough laws, and we're at the proper level of gun control. It will ALWAYS be 'just a little bit more' because gun control won't ever solve the problem.

[Bunion 2020]

A statistic:

“Do you know we’ve killed more people by gun violence in the last two years in America, than civilians killed by Russia in Ukraine.”

That was hard to believe, but I promised to do some research. He was right.

The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights verified that as of September 12, 2023, a total of 9,614 civilians have died during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, with 17,535 people injured.

But, It turns out the Russians are pikers when it comes to killing civilians. Gun Violence Archive is an independent data collection and research group unaffiliated with any advocacy organization and purposed to collect incidents from more than 7,500 law enforcement, media, government and commercial sources daily in an effort to provide near-real-time data about the results of gun violence.

According to this organization, as of Oct. 26, there have been 35,291 gun violence deaths in America. Add to that the 20,200 gun violence deaths in 2022, and we have a total of 55,491 American civilians killed—about 5.8 times more than the number of civilians killed, in the same time period in Ukraine, at war with a superpower, Russia.

In 2020 and 2021, firearms contributed to the deaths of more children ages 1-17 years in the U.S. than any other type of injury or illness. The child firearm mortality rate has doubled in the U.S. from a recent low of 1.8 deaths per 100,000 in 2013 to 3.7 in 2021.

Oh and fuck you Leroy.

[CarlMega]

You guys catch wind of the kook who (apparently) was planning to massacre a bunch of people in a Glenwood CO theme park? sounds like that loon off'd himself but yet another jarring incident in a endless stream of dysfunctional people with access to an arsenal with intentions of killing.

back to: "No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"

[::: :::]

because gun control won't ever solve the problem.

“Solving” the problem vs addressing the problem dramatically

Hang your hat on absolutes, if that is easiest for you to rationalize your mindless support of the gun industry as some perverted badge of “patriotism”, “independence”, “law & order”, “individualism”, “toughness”, whatever

Actual facts & policy indicate that gun control does reduce gun violence and can reduce it dramatically

[Bunion 2020]

sounds like that loon off'd himself but yet another jarring incident in a endless stream of dysfunctional people with access to an arsenal with intentions of killing.

At least that guy did the right thing. If people are so fucked up their only recourse is to shoot up a bunch of people then they should all take that route. Gather an arsenal, write a manifesto explaining what you were going to do and then cap your ass. You will be remembered fondly.

[anotherVTskibum]

You don't have an objective description of just what gun control is going to be most effective or useful, or pose the most benefit for the least amount of negative impact to law abiding gun owners, you just want additional gun control because at least its an attempt to do something.

How about this: treat all semiautomatic firearms with detachable magazines the same as belt-fed machine guns?

Anyone who currently owns one or more is welcome to sell it/them to the government in an Australia-style buyback or jump through the hoops required to meet the licensing requirements.

The data from other countries supports it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon, because we need either a very different Supreme Court or a successful constitutional amendment to narrow the scope of the second amendment (perhaps back to how it was understood 50 years ago, under Regan).

(And apologies to those who have the quoted party blocked)

[cat in january]

I fully agree with the above and add in huge legal repercussions if such weapons are found.

[The AD]

It will ALWAYS be 'just a little bit more' because gun control won't ever solve the problem.

I'll admit it's going to be difficult, but the root cause is crazy people with guns. The obvious way to eradicate this is to get the guns out of crazy people's hands, right? I don't see how anything else solves the problem.

[leroy jenkins]

You guys catch wind of the kook who (apparently) was planning to massacre a bunch of people in a Glenwood CO theme park? sounds like that loon off'd himself but yet another jarring incident in a endless stream of dysfunctional people with access to an arsenal with intentions of killing.

back to: "No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"

He was found with a note that read "I'm not violent, I just wanted to get into the caves"

Crazy for sure. Doesn't seem like a mass shooting was what he was after.

[leroy jenkins]

I'll admit it's going to be difficult, but the root cause is crazy people with guns. The obvious way to eradicate this is to get the guns out of crazy people's hands, right? I don't see how anything else solves the problem.

Yea, i get your rhetoric, can you actually address my point? Namely, that there is some dishonesty going on here in regards to what many of you are really advocating. You're advocating civilian disarmament. Some of you are honest about it, some of you just dance around it.

Is there are certain point where you'd be satisfied with gun control and back off of supporting more? Or is it always just current status plus a few more laws?

[CarlMega]

He was found with a note that read "I'm not violent, I just wanted to get into the caves"

Crazy for sure. Doesn't seem like a mass shooting was what he was after.

Or:

“He was dressed in black colored tactical clothing, bearing patches and emblems that gave the appearance of being associated with law enforcement,” the sheriff's statement said. “The suspect had been heavily armed with a semi-automatic rifle and semi-automatic handgun and multiple, loaded magazines for both weapons. He was wearing body armor and what appeared to be a ballistic helmet.”

Improvised explosives were also found with the man's body and in his vehicle, which was left outside the park's entrance. The Grand Junction Bomb Squad successfully disarmed the bombs and swept the park for hidden devices alongside the Garfield County All Hazard Response Team.

“While this investigation is still ongoing and very active it is important to realize that given the amount of weaponry, ammunition and explosive devices found, the suspect could have implemented an attack of devastating proportions upon our community and first responders,” the statement said.

[californiagrown]

You're advocating civilian disarmament.

Is there are certain point where you'd be satisfied with gun control and back off of supporting more?

I personally advocate for treating gun ownership as a privilege similar to driving. You must pass a test to be eligible, and must pass further testing at greater frequency for more powerful firearms. A register of fire arms must be kept at the local PDs office (federal and state will not have access), and if one of the standard tests to retain ownership is missed it is the local PDs responsibility to make contact with the subject and remove the firearm until the test is taken and passed. When a person moves, they must request a transfer of their records to the new jurisdiction. Confiscation, fines, and jail time would be on the table for different levels of non-compliance.

If you want to own a musket or single shot firearm, the testing is much less frequent than if you want to own a semiauto larger caliber rifle. Testing will be field, classroom, and a psych eval. I would also be in favor of removing most weapon bans, as long as the above was put into place to ensure responsible firearm ownership.

[Cisco Kid]

We need to get on the Slippery Slope to gun sanity. Step one. Ban the carrying of the mass shooters weapon of choice outside of the house. Like back when dildos were illegal in many states. People had them but kept them safely hidden in the bedroom. Everyone who needed a dildo could have one in practice.

[TBS]

LEWISTON, Maine — Five months before the deadliest mass shooting in Maine’s history, the gunman’s family alerted the local sheriff that they were becoming concerned about his deteriorating mental health while he had access to firearms, authorities said Monday.
After the alert, the Sagadohoc County Sheriff's Office reached out to officials of Robert Card’s Army Reserve unit, which assured deputies that they would speak to Card and make sure he got medical attention, Sheriff Joel Merry said.

https://time.com/6330132/maine-mass-...edium=referral

He also tried to buy a suppressor but answered “yes” as to whether he had been in a mental institution on his Form 4473, so the FFL wouldn’t transfer the item

Maine (and New Hampshire) do not have a red flag law

[gravitylover]

Or:
Or:

“He was dressed in black colored tactical clothing, bearing patches and emblems that gave the appearance of being associated with law enforcement,” the sheriff's statement said. “The suspect had been heavily armed with a semi-automatic rifle and semi-automatic handgun and multiple, loaded magazines for both weapons. He was wearing body armor and what appeared to be a ballistic helmet.”

Improvised explosives were also found with the man's body and in his vehicle, which was left outside the park's entrance. The Grand Junction Bomb Squad successfully disarmed the bombs and swept the park for hidden devices alongside the Garfield County All Hazard Response Team.

“While this investigation is still ongoing and very active it is important to realize that given the amount of weaponry, ammunition and explosive devices found, the suspect could have implemented an attack of devastating proportions upon our community and first responders,” the statement said.

Is that what actually happened? Fuck.

[The AD]

Yea, i get your rhetoric, can you actually address my point? Namely, that there is some dishonesty going on here in regards to what many of you are really advocating. You're advocating civilian disarmament. Some of you are honest about it, some of you just dance around it.

Is there are certain point where you'd be satisfied with gun control and back off of supporting more? Or is it always just current status plus a few more laws?

The devil is in the details, of course. I just know for certain the goal must be to get weapons, especially weapons that making mass killings very easy, out of the hands of people like this nut in Maine. Yes, that means gun control. My knowledge ends there. I don't profess to be a gun expert.

[Ted Striker]

I personally advocate for treating gun ownership as a privilege similar to driving. You must pass a test to be eligible, and must pass further testing at greater frequency...

Now if we only could actually do that for driving...