WWMD: Dealer Title Fraud

[krp8128]

Turn their ass in, take your full refund and move on.

[XXX-er]

Usually a mechanic inputs the mileage wrong and then it is corrected later by another mechanic. There are several places the odometer could have gotten the error. The guy who appraised the car and took it in on trade could have put down the wrong odometer. The guy who checks the used cars and trades into the dealership could have screwed up.

Then you have the folks in finance who rely on the other two to give them the correct info but they are the ones who reported it to the state where it’s now on your title. Most problems at dealerships are due to incompetence not deceit.

ever thing in America is a conspiracy so fuck over the next person you meet

[neufox47]

Tell them in exchange for not reporting them and suing for damages you will just take the refund and the car.


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[old goat]

If you take option 1 you now have a car with an odometer reading lower than the title. If you try to sell the car you're going to be accused of setting back the odometer. If you total the car your insurance is going to accuse you of setting back the odometer. If the bank finds out about they're going to accuse you of setting back the odometer. At this point the number on the title is going to be the mileage on the car until you put another 88K+ miles on it. Take number 2. And make sure you notify the state that you are no longer the owner of the car. And good luck to the dealer selling that car. Expensive mistake.

[XXX-er]

he was trying to resolve this fuck-up,

which ^^^ is why the dealer took so long to not get back to you

run away from this deal

[neufox47]

Tell them in exchange for not reporting them and suing for damages you will just take the refund and the car.


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This was a bit tongue in cheek but don’t treat their options as their final options / offers. Those are their initial offers. IF you believe them that this car really only has <65k miles and you can get it for less than a car with >155k miles then it is a steal. A certified letter from them would clear up any issues with the insurance and others I’d think.

[neufox47]

This was a bit tongue in cheek but don’t treat their options as their final options / offers. Those are their initial offers. IF you believe them that this car really only has <65k miles and you can get it for less than a car with >155k miles then it is a steal. A certified letter from them would clear up any issues with the insurance and others I’d think.

Also, if you consider offer 1, then a clause stating that if the dealership breaks this agreement and you have to sue to enforce it they owe your attorney fees (but not vise versa) should be added.


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[Core Shot]

Why not see what’s behind door number three?

He might get a newer year more valuable car for the same money

[Bobby Stainless]

I would imagine the CPO is not valid. You need to return the car and get your money back.

He might get a newer year more valuable car for the same money

Possible, but I doubt it.

[Bobby Stainless]

that superspeeders guy is always on my FB youtube talking about the expensive exotics rental business, the Ferraris, lambo's, Mcclarens and buddy said he thinks almost all the used exotics he sees have had their odometers rolled back

McLaren of Charlotte is pretty notorious for this.

[Bobby Stainless]

Just so everyone is aware. Certified Pre Owned vehicles have to come from their respective franchise dealer.

I can't sell a Certified Pre Owned Lexus, because I am not a franchise Lexus dealer.

If you want a CPO vehicle with a manufacturer warranty, then you have to go to that franchise dealership.

[Core Shot]

that actually gives him more leverage. Hadn't thought about the CPO angle

threaten state attorney general complaint as well as corporate - they might not like being reported to the manufacturer as a CPO fraud

I'm sure its a mistake - but man, how could they not read the carfax!

I say try door number three - let them give you a more valuable car for the same money

If its not a good offer, then money back. But then you have no car and you're headed out of town

[BmillsSkier]

Going against everything that TRG stands for, I think it's settled.

Bobby says get rid of it, you get rid of it.

[ghosthop]

We sat down with the GM this week. I believe we will all agree to option 3, my wife and I will be making a profit on paper.

Again, this is a well regarded dealership in our area with a franchise of the manufacturer that we bought. The vehicle was always serviced at a dealership and the odometer mileage reported by various dealerships always appears appropriate on the Carfax. The only discrepancy was the extra 90k reported by the DMV when the p/o moved to the current state. P/o or DMV employee mistake. The GM is aware of the financial liability hanging over his head. Hanlon's Razor and all that.

I agree in a perfect word, taking our money and moving on would be best. I have four weeks before I move my pregnant wife across the country and a working vehicle is part of the plan.

[skifishbum]

without dog poop under somebodies door handles
im not sure of the win factor
ifin your movin to the satch
well yeah
stop by

[TNKen]

wft ?????? Return that thing for a full refund . THEN report those fuckers ! You might also right a letter ready to go to the MFG if it is acutally a MFG CPO.

This, report to the State DMV investigators as well as the consumer fraud division in your state attorney general's office.

[Core Shot]

I love a happy ending.

Well played. Gosthop