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    Quote Originally Posted by Djongo Unchained View Post
    Also, talked to a local OG racer friend and he said 2 hard locals have delammed the M6 right where the titanal sheets were changed to a 3 part section instead of 1.
    Not saying it's common but I've seen a fair number of these...the top edge is/was finished too square and the frame catches on edges and other things. I talked to Volkl tech guy about it, I mean we spend hours rounding profiling race ski topsheet edges to stop edges from catching when tips/tails get crossed so why not one more sanding pass at 45* or something at the factory?
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    When I'm talking about the M6 Mantras bump performance, I just mean compared to Katana 108s. Not compared to more maneuverable skis in the 95-100mm category. Katana 108 tips are huge, and can sometimes be unwieldy in super tight and big moguls.

    Whenever I'm on the Katana 108s, I get this feeling all their attributes would feel better if enhanced and in a thinner ski. One that is still heavy and should still have a good platform feel underfoot (I like wider skis). A la M6 Mantra.

    I don't have that many days on my K108s, but I have absolutely smashed them around through rocks and roots and branches. Mine are handling this like a champ!

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    The M6 and the K108...

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    Plenty of epoxy, still kinda scared how this will end up. So much air in the core [emoji16]

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    A friends dad has these just sitting in their garage, and lets me ski them every time I'm in town to visit. Still won't sell them to me though...

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    Someone went and left a unicorn at the ski swap and I was the first one in the building. Overpay or not, these are immaculate and now freshly mounted.

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    I will happily enjoy skiing these, but if you're holding onto a 2013 of similar (or even inferior) quality I will gladly trade them for it.

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    Old katanas are one of my favorite skis of all time. They still make the VWerks, I wish they still made small runs of a heavy resort charger version of that. They'd sell what, maybe 50 pairs of them. You never know, full rocker might make a slight comeback, the designs really do have their place in a quiver as a tool for certain conditions (or daily drivers for some rippers).

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    Picked up a pair of last years Kendo 88, thinking of going +1 on them. Will I die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rightcoast View Post
    Picked up a pair of last years Kendo 88, thinking of going +1 on them. Will I die?
    I had my Kendos, and M102, mounted on the forward line.

    When I took the M6 demo out a coulple years ago, I didn't like them. Felt dead, not fun. Slid the bindings up to the forward line and bam, came alive. Mounted them on the forward line ever since.

    M7, though, middle line was the ticket. Going to run the M7 demo a little on all the lines when we get snow and see where to mount mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rightcoast View Post
    Picked up a pair of last years Kendo 88, thinking of going +1 on them. Will I die?
    Probably not. I like the rear line for the current batch of metal Volkls. That being said, the Kendo skied like it had a bit more splay/rocker in the front of the ski than the M6 or M102, which pushed the turn initiation point back a bit. Not sure how going forward would affect that, but thought I would mention it.
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    Thanks for the info...fwiw I have m102s mounted on the line

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    Just picked up a cheap ($229 delivered) pair of last year's Revolt 96 as an early season groomer ski.
    I like what I've read in the reviews and will only be using this as a directional ski, I'll never go in the park, spin or ski switch.
    The recommended mount line on the skis is just a hair back of true center.
    Traditionally it was find true center, put the ball of your foot there and that puts my boot center at about 5 cm back from Volkl's recommended line.
    Anyone ski this and have any thoughts on the mounting line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by powpig View Post
    Just picked up a cheap ($229 delivered) pair of last year's Revolt 96 as an early season groomer ski.
    I like what I've read in the reviews and will only be using this as a directional ski, I'll never go in the park, spin or ski switch.
    The recommended mount line on the skis is just a hair back of true center.
    Traditionally it was find true center, put the ball of your foot there and that puts my boot center at about 5 cm back from Volkl's recommended line.
    Anyone ski this and have any thoughts on the mounting line?
    Think I skied the demo we had about an inch back, maybe a little more.

    It won't hurt to run it back -3 or -4. Carves pretty good when mounted back.

    For the record, I clicked the Griff demos back a few clicks and didn't look where they exactly ended up.

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    Any insight as to how a Blaze 106w might be for a newer skier (stbmrstgapp) in soft snow conditions (as a Japan one ski quiver)? Volkl sale is poppin' off, and the price is right. Not looking to spend a ton on these but I want to improve stbmrstgapp's experience here

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    Do it. Great soft snow 50/50 ski, if such a thing exists. Picked a pair up last year to modernize the wifey bc rig, no complaints to date. Fat tips plans up, low camber lets tails release in funky snow. At black friday price it’s a no brainer for an advancing intermediate headed to Japan imo.
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    Just picked up some 2024 191 Revolt 121’s for myself and some 163 Secret 96’s for my daughter on the Black Friday blowout sale.

    Looking forward to some smeary, floaty goodness to offer up to La Niña this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    Any insight as to how a Blaze 106w might be for a newer skier (stbmrstgapp) in soft snow conditions (as a Japan one ski quiver)? Volkl sale is poppin' off, and the price is right. Not looking to spend a ton on these but I want to improve stbmrstgapp's experience here

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    Man up and get her some BMT 109s

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    All Things Volkl Thread

    Blaze being available and $300 really pushes it ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvan View Post
    Nice. ^ Been wife’s DD (163) the last two seasons and she loves em. Another Volkl that’s easy to size down on. Hope she likes em.
    Just mounted the previous gen 163 102 for her, for a little more float in Blackcomb’s everyday chop, though she happily grabs her 171 Nomad 105s anytime it’s soft. Almost go time.
    Thanks for the info. My daughter skied the 163 Secret 96 last year at Whistler and was really impressed. Problem was we couldn’t find that size at the end of the season. She will be transitioning from a Blizzard Black Pearl 98 of similar length. Hoping it will be an easy change and that the Secret 96 provides a little more versatility versus the somewhat planky BP 98.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    Just picked up some 2024 191 Revolt 121’s for myself and some 163 Secret 96’s for my daughter on the Black Friday blowout sale.

    Looking forward to some smeary, floaty goodness to offer up to La Niña this season.
    I've been thinking about adding some 191 Revolt 121s as well. SupreChicken's and some others review of them mentioned some tip dive, but then others mentioned they were great resort powder skis. At their current price they are worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    Just picked up some 2024 191 Revolt 121’s for myself and some 163 Secret 96’s for my daughter on the Black Friday blowout sale.

    Looking forward to some smeary, floaty goodness to offer up to La Niña this season.
    Do you think it’d be stupid for me to size down to 184s, as super jibby pow slashers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumskier View Post
    Do you think it’d be stupid for me to size down to 184s, as super jibby pow slashers?
    Yeah. My 6’ 1” 160-lb buddy skied the 184 and said he could not believe how short they felt. He also skis a 193 Shiro for reference. It’s a big, deep day kind of ski. Go long.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    Yeah. My 6’ 1” 160-lb buddy skied the 184 and said he could not believe how short they felt. He also skis a 193 Shiro for reference. It’s a big, deep day kind of ski. Go long.


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    Makes sense. 191 it should be! I’d like to mount them -1 to get rid of some tail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumskier View Post
    Makes sense. 191 it should be! I’d like to mount them -1 to get rid of some tail.
    I'm 6'2, 185 and generally prefer K108 or M102 type of skis so mounted these -2.5 or 3 from recommended and didn't feel any weirdness or loss of playfulness or agility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robik View Post
    I'm 6'2, 185 and generally prefer K108 or M102 type of skis so mounted these -2.5 or 3 from recommended and didn't feel any weirdness or loss of playfulness or agility.

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    Interesting. Sometimes I’ve found center mounted powder skis that are long and heavy to be a handful in tight spaces in deep snow. Especially if they are stiffer. I got an oddly stiff pair of 2015 19X BentChetlers that I hated in pow trees. Loved it for big mountain versus softer 19X Automatics, but preferred Automatics in trees. When going long, I usually prefer more directional, or at least progressive ( -6 through -12 mount) pow skis, like Declivity X/Automatic…but enjoy center mounted fatties when shorter.

    I mainly want the Revolts for tight spaces and to be surfier/jibbier than 186 Blackops 118s, which is why I was initially considering 184s. I think they are soft enough that the 191s will work, especially if I can mount a little further back.

    I may be reaching with these skis, trying to make them work, but I’ve wanted to try them for a while and the price is ridiculous.

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    The big revolts are not jibby skis, that goes from 104 and up, maybe even the 96. Like they are no plank, but the blops is a softer flex than a 121, but heavier and therefore more work.

    If you want them to dance like Bonafide noodles like visions or the modern chet, they need aggression and energy.

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