All Things Volkl Thread

[kamtron]

Did some searching but not much info on the Rise Beyond
Some good deals right now: https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/sk...nd-96-ski-2023
I wonder if they ski like a cambered tail or if the camber is minimal and the tails feel loose enough to not catch too much? Seems like a nice ski for mountaineering around here.

[Benneke10]

Did some searching but not much info on the Rise Beyond
Some good deals right now: https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/sk...nd-96-ski-2023
I wonder if they ski like a cambered tail or if the camber is minimal and the tails feel loose enough to not catch too much? Seems like a nice ski for mountaineering around here.

I skied the Rise Beyond 98 which is a different shape, identical to the older VTA 98. The tails definitely felt cambered, not loose at all.

[byates1]

Just a follow up to the skis etc pictured. I'll deal w all of it mid December. Word.

[gaijin]

Wait— you post those rad pics and then tell people to wait six months?

That’s just mean. Like, older sibling mean.


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[ticketchecker]

I’m in for hobbit size undrilled Katanas, preferably dragons. Can be upstate AF if necessary


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[byates1]

Dude is going through a divorce and a house sale. I'm in Montana.

Later this summer of ppl are near Syracuse I'll arrange a meet up.

Good things come to those who wait

[Velomayniac]

Missed any sizing info. Are there 191s?

[byates1]

No longs. 186 bode is prob the longest.

The puder luders may be 190

Anyone that claims a ski I'll honor once I get my hands on them. Peace

[bry]

Even those 184s new in plastic that's a sweet situation

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[SoVT Joey]

No longs. 186 bode is prob the longest.

The puder luders may be 190

Anyone that claims a ski I'll honor once I get my hands on them. Peace

I’ll take a 184 katana if there is one available still, prefer one of those in the plastic if possible. And I’ll swing out to Syracuse to get them when you come east.

[homemadesalsa]

You guys have any experience with the Volkl Rise Beyond ski? I'm looking for a burly spring mountaineering ski. I'd also take an older VTA in what, 167-169- up to 171 (I'm 5.5 and 130#).

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[byates1]

Anyone have thoughts on og katanas vs og bodacoius?

Buddy is giving me whatever, I'm on og devastators as the daily. Was thinking an old legend pro 94 waist for groomers. And the katana for the big ski. Now thinking the bodacoius for the big ski.

Both would prob be rad. Bodes would be more chargey me thinks

[sf]

Anyone have thoughts on og katanas vs og bodacoius?

Buddy is giving me whatever, I'm on og devastators as the daily. Was thinking an old legend pro 94 waist for groomers. And the katana for the big ski. Now thinking the bodacoius for the big ski.

Both would prob be rad. Bodes would be more chargey me thinks

I’ve only skied Katanas once tons of years ago, but look at the sidecut numbers.

The more you want/need your big ski to hook up/carve on harder surfaces, the more you should consider the Katana vs the og Bode

[kamtron]

You guys have any experience with the Volkl Rise Beyond ski? I'm looking for a burly spring mountaineering ski. I'd also take an older VTA in what, 167-169- up to 171 (I'm 5.5 and 130#).

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Bump, also interested in more data on these.

Tiphaine Duperier and Boris Langenstein are using the narrower versions to do some next level skiing!

https://soundcloud.com/american-alpi...haine-duperier

http://publications.americanalpinecl...es/13201216026

[Benneke10]

Bump, also interested in more data on these.

Tiphaine Duperier and Boris Langenstein are using the narrower versions to do some next level skiing!

https://soundcloud.com/american-alpi...haine-duperier

http://publications.americanalpinecl...es/13201216026

They are skiing some incredible lines! I try not to take too much from what equipment pros are using since they are required to say good things, and they are skilled enough to make it work on any skis. For my and my mediocre ability, I found the tails on the Rise Beyond 98 to be too demanding in weird backcountry snow conditions but they were excellent on consistent firm snow and the construction is fantastic as one would expect with Volkl.

[Velomayniac]

Even those 184s new in plastic that's a sweet situation

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Those 184 Katanas are great skis. I daily drove those at Jackson Hole one season back in 2014. I had the 191s too, but was only 180lbs back then so the 184s saw a lot more use. Both sizes are some of my favorite skis of all time

Anyone have thoughts on og katanas vs og bodacoius?

Buddy is giving me whatever, I'm on og devastators as the daily. Was thinking an old legend pro 94 waist for groomers. And the katana for the big ski. Now thinking the bodacoius for the big ski.

Both would prob be rad. Bodes would be more chargey me thinks

Katana is a better daily driver, Bodacious is a better powder ski. Katana still skis powder well, and Bodacious can still be daily driven if you like a wide ski and/or ski at a high snowfall area.

Both charge great, but I think I’d give the nod to Bodacious in off piste terrain. The Bodacious will flap more though if you are just railing a groomer at high speeds, the Katana is better for mach snell on piste.

[byates1]

Nice. Thx!

[Velomayniac]

Both are cold dead hands skis for me. You should get a set of each if you can lol.

I can’t wait to ski my Katana 108s this upcoming season. I’m a little late to the party, but better late than never.

[pfluffenmeister]

That is some quality hoarding right there! Do I spy two pairs of Katana's in a longish length still in plastic? IMO that last run of the mostly all green katana was one of the best looking skis ever.

Yeah, I like this guy's style: "Sometimes you need a backup for your backup!".

[J. Barron DeJong]

Yeah, I like this guy's style: "Sometimes you need a backup for your backup!".

I’m wondering if the divorce had anything to do with disagreements about spending.

[byates1]

Nah. She's a wack. He's tight w the coin.

[hyak]

I've skied on a pair of 2020 Rise Beyond 98s for two seasons and found them quite forgiving and composed - almost to the point of blandness. They will happily release from a turn at any point and powerslide indefinitely. Versatile corn ski because they'll do fine on both the firm end of the spectrum and the isothermal end of the spectrum.

At this point the skis have no camber left, but also minimal rise in the tails. 184s, tails detuned moderately, alpinists. I'm 5'11" 165lb. Mostly ski them with fischer transalp boots.

[kamtron]

I've skied on Rise Above 98s for two seasons and found them quite forgiving and composed - almost to the point of blandness. They will happily release from a turn at any point and powerslide indefinitely. Versatile corn ski because they'll do fine on both the firm end of the spectrum and the isothermal end of the spectrum.

At this point the skis have no camber left, but also minimal rise in the tails. 184s, tails detuned moderately, alpinists. I'm 5'11" 165lb. Mostly ski them with fischer transalp boots.

Good info, sounds like a nice ski

[Fred Pabst]

The wife just scored a pair of the Blaze 94W at a pretty sweet price. I was looking at mount point lines. They are the standard 3 lines like my M102's with the most rearward line being the recommended. I haven't measured from center but the back line sure looks far back. Any one with some input on the Blaze mounting point?

[chewski]

The wife just scored a pair of the Blaze 94W at a pretty sweet price. I was looking at mount point lines. They are the standard 3 lines like my M102's with the most rearward line being the recommended. I haven't measured from center but the back line sure looks far back. Any one with some input on the Blaze mounting point?

50% off at mammoth! Grabbed the 165 for my wife as her original 161 santa annas (100mm) are getting old and she freaking loves them. She demoed and did not love the blaze 94w while demoing new boots (didn't fit her old bindings). I figured it was mount point and maybe needing detune, so tried that with the pair i bought. Lined them up next to her santa annas and despite 4cm difference in length, the +2cm line was MUCH closer to sant anna mount point so went with that. Detuned rocker sections as my wife does not achieve high edge angles anyways and she actually liked them this time.

The 0 line on volkls is very far back and what I personally prefer on my m102. but i got the 184 m102 for a friend and put demo bindings on in case the skis were a little too much for him so he could play with mount point. He struggled at 0 and felt a big improvement at +2cm. Similarly i got m6 mantras for my dad and he struggled at 0. It was not a demo binding so i remounted at +2 and detuned rocker more. He LOVED the change. Night and day for him. And my wife is data point #3 going from 0 to +2 on current volkls making a big difference. I like the 0 mark, but it seems most people greatly prefer +2