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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    It doesn't appear that Russia's demographic crisis is getting any closer to a solution.
    Russia has the largest male scarcity in the world, with 84M women to 73M men.

    11 million honeypots for the Maga crowd, thanks to alcohol, despair, violence,
    migration, and of course, Pootie sending to slaughter his compatriots.

    Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltics are also very short of men. Seems to be an ex-USSR thing.

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    A good old Putinesque solution is in order

    “The military’s stepped-up appeal to women includes efforts to recruit female inmates in prisons, replicating on a much smaller scale a strategy that has swelled its ranks with male convicts.

    Recruiters in military uniforms toured Russian jails for women in the fall of 2023, offering inmates a pardon and $2,000 a month — 10 times the national minimum wage — in return for serving in frontline roles for a year, according to six current and former inmates of three prisons in different regions of Russia.

    It’s not just convicts. Women now feature in Russian military recruitment advertisements across the country. A pro-Kremlin paramilitary unit fighting in Ukraine also recruits women.

    “Combat experience and military specialties are not required,” read an advertisement aimed at women that was posted in March in Russia’s Tatarstan region. It offered training and a sign-up bonus equivalent to $4,000. “We have one goal — victory!”

    This, from the cunning old cunt that also spouts

    ““The most important thing for every women, no matter what profession she has chosen and what heights she has reached, is the family,” Mr. Putin said in a speech on March 8.”

    Now he is going to run out of honeypots



    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/04/w...hare&sgrp=c-cb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey E View Post
    Russia has the largest male scarcity in the world, with 84M women to 73M men.

    11 million honeypots for the Maga crowd, thanks to alcohol, despair, violence,
    migration, and of course, Pootie sending to slaughter his compatriots.

    Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltics are also very short of men. Seems to be an ex-USSR thing.
    It's because Russian and Russian-like institutions are terrible and cause a long hangover. Yet Putin blames the CIA, not hostile Russian governance, for all the former Soviet countries wanting to escape the Russian sphere.

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    Horrifying. Hospitals in Russian occupied Luhansk will take newborn babies from parents unless proven that at least one parent is Russian:

    "Hospitals in Russian-occupied Luhansk Oblast are reportedly threatening to confiscate newborns from mothers if neither of the newborn’s parents can prove that they have Russian citizenship. Luhansk Oblast Military Administration Head Artem Lysohor reported on May 1 that mothers who give birth at hospitals in occupied Luhansk Oblast will be required starting on May 6 to prove that at least one of the newborn’s parents has Russian citizenship in order for the hospital to discharge the newborn. If this report is accurate, such actions violate Article II(d) of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which defines genocide as “imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group."

    https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ent-may-3-2024

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Horrifying. Hospitals in Russian occupied Luhansk will take newborn babies from parents unless proven that at least one parent is Russian:

    "Hospitals in Russian-occupied Luhansk Oblast are reportedly threatening to confiscate newborns from mothers if neither of the newborn’s parents can prove that they have Russian citizenship. Luhansk Oblast Military Administration Head Artem Lysohor reported on May 1 that mothers who give birth at hospitals in occupied Luhansk Oblast will be required starting on May 6 to prove that at least one of the newborn’s parents has Russian citizenship in order for the hospital to discharge the newborn. If this report is accurate, such actions violate Article II(d) of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which defines genocide as “imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group."

    https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ent-may-3-2024
    Apparently Vlad is trying to out-evil Xi.

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    He's trying to out-evil Vlad the Impaler I think.

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    Well it was only 16 years ago that Russia invaded them.

    Then of course there was the whole deporting Georgians from Russia 18 years ago.

    And of course the Soviet Union invaded and annexed Georgia in 1921, killed 60K in the purges, and deported a shit ton to the east, and held Georgia in thrall for 70 years.

    Before that the Russian Empire took over Georgia in 1801 and held it as a vassal state for 116 years.

    Why would Georgians not like Russia?

    Of note, Georgia is one of the prime destinations of Russians fleeing Russia to avoid being drafted for Russia's war against Ukraine.
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    No eye contact??
    Both autistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    Still the government wants to implement a Russia style Media law.
    It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.

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    Seems like Georgia is the new Finland. Is there more to it than that?

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    Georgia's not real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    No eye contact??
    Both autistic?
    It's Russia becoming another step closer to a Chinese vassal state. Putin needs China for the Russian war effort. China will in turn wring significant concessions and unfavorable long-term agreements from Russia. Some will argue Western sanctions, the same people who argue sanctions don't work, pushed Russia closer to China. The fact is though, Putin has been giving away Russian resources and control to China at discount prices for well over a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Georgia's not real?
    That might be the most interesting Russian bullshit trope of all. But, no, I was referring to the Fins' long time balancing act/conundrum: how to bow to the west without showing their ass to the east.

    It's not clear to me if the Georgian government is in thrall to the poo tin or just trying to avoid another incursion. It certainly seems like now is a poor time to be conciliatory to Russia, but maybe they're hedging in case Cono gets his way for another 6 months (or more) with obvious results?

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    Unreal. “My way”

    My way, is to live to fight another day. Who benefits the most from time today?

    A cease fire would have given Ukraine time to prepare. The fact you all refused that, by the same logic, could infer you’re the one on wrong side.

    I would never suggest such a ludicrous thing though, because that would mean I was a complete pussy like you.

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    Russia invaded and Russia refused to negotiate in good faith, Cono. Blaming anyone else for Putin's actions is nothing more than partisan agitprop. Putin even refused a deal recommended by his own personally appointed negotiator. Everything else beyond that is Russian promoted talking points and propaganda.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    A cease fire would have given Ukraine time to prepare.
    This particular lowinfo Russian talking point falls flat due to the fact the Kremlin demanded Ukraine demilitarize as part of any deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Unreal. “My way”
    You've been pretty clear that your way is to not arm Ukraine. Maybe one day you thought that would force them to negotiate (because it's obviously Ukraine that's unreasonably refusing, right?) or another day you were scared of pootin's nukes and second best hypersonic army in the world. But in all cases you claim ending American military support saves lives.

    So for 6 months you and your ilk got your way. New Speaker came along and froze everything. Ukraine was starved for ammunition and rockets, defensive and offensive. And the result is that Russia was emboldened, went on the offensive and a lot more people died--on both sides. The worst days lately have killed 50% more Russians compared even with peak days of earlier offensives. And certainly more Ukrainian losses go with that.

    If you want peace, prepare for war. Your version of peace is some people prepare for war and then they kill everyone else while you shrug and dance. Your efforts, in your own small way, help them do it by emboldening aggression and dividing resistance to it. You're a traitorous quisling who should lose at least 1 of those passports. Go live in Russia if you trust them so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    You've been pretty clear that your way is to not arm Ukraine. Maybe one day you thought that would force them to negotiate (because it's obviously Ukraine that's unreasonably refusing, right?) or another day you were scared of pootin's nukes and second best hypersonic army in the world. But in all cases you claim ending American military support saves lives.

    So for 6 months you and your ilk got your way. New Speaker came along and froze everything. Ukraine was starved for ammunition and rockets, defensive and offensive. And the result is that Russia was emboldened, went on the offensive and a lot more people died--on both sides. The worst days lately have killed 50% more Russians compared even with peak days of earlier offensives. And certainly more Ukrainian losses go with that.

    If you want peace, prepare for war. Your version of peace is some people prepare for war and then they kill everyone else while you shrug and dance. Your efforts, in your own small way, help them do it by emboldening aggression and dividing resistance to it. You're a traitorous quisling who should lose at least 1 of those passports. Go live in Russia if you trust them so much.
    That’s a lie. And you’re insane.


    I popped in by mistake, I meant to wait until your sending rusty old hand Grenades to strap to little girls when Zelenskyy runs out of men.

    Few of you care about Ukraine. It’s personal somehow, and I know why.

    PM when you are all screaming for a ceasefire to rearm.

    Pussys.

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    To add, a lot of us argued back when this all started that Ukraine should be equipped to fight the Russian invasion as it sees fit. It's their country after all. There was never any defacto objection to Ukraine negotiating terms with Russia. Cono's entire premise is factually wrong.

    Most instead objected to the idea that unilaterally disarming Ukraine would somehow result in favorable terms for Ukraine. It should be obvious by now why that's the case, or are people still falling for the lie that Russia's unprovoked invasion was all about NATO? How many times does the Kremlin have to say and then act on the fact it wants to erase Ukraine entirely?

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    Georgian President vetoes the foreign agent bill, but the parliament will likely overrule the veto.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2024-05-18/
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    Georgian Dream began as an anti-authoritarian party and appeared not-at-all friendly to Russia, though it also came into being specifically to challenge the most aggressively anti-Russian politician in Georgia. At some point, Georgian Dream did a bait-'n'-switch, but that wasn't clear until it stepped up political violence against protestors, making use of "Titushky" or disguised provocateurs in the crowd. Same shit was used heavily by Yanukovich in his attempt to thwart the Maidan. This is a possible clue to Kremlin involvement, but it ain't proof.

    Atlantic Council member and former Georgian security adviser Eto Buziashvili recently appeared on Jonathan Fink's show, specifically addressing the question of Kremlin responsibility:



    What's going on in Georgia now, isn't necesscelery a Russian push to authoritarianism, maybe just a pull from Georgians with Russian-leaning sympathies. That's been seen elsewhere. Either way, Georgian Dream appears willing to face off against the overwhelming majority of Georgians, and for whatever reason they're not willing to settle down and try again later. That might be the best indication of Russian cooperation. But it's still only circumstantial. For now.
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