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  1. #676
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmills View Post
    The adhesive on the 10x10 sheets is pretty good, add a strip of gaffe tape if needed
    https://www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowb...-foam-10-x-10/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmills View Post
    The adhesive on the 10x10 sheets is pretty good, add a strip of gaffe tape if needed
    https://www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowb...-foam-10-x-10/
    I’ve used the Tognar foam on non-zip race liners. It works great! I definitely recommend some gaffers or Boot Doc tape (it’s like 4” wide gaffers tape—my local boot fitter just gives me some for free when I need it) over the foam if you’re world cupping the zips.

  3. #678
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    I struggle with excess forefoot height in the boot but have a wide forefoot. Often find my first met has a 1/4” of vertical play but my 5th is crushed vertically. I use zips of course.

    I shim my boot board and taper it off to nothing at my heel. Cover with tape. Tuck the tape behind the heel of the boot board to ensure no snagging.

    I hate rockered boot boards and like a flat stance, so this solution works well for me. If you want to keep your stance the same, I’m not sure what would work as you’d have the pad the top of the forefoot. I would prefer to do that with a heat moldable material as it would be very difficult to have 5mm of foam that doesn’t end up causing problems. If Velcro stuck, that would be awesome.

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    why not just take whatever material you like, and aqua seal it on? it'll stick fine to neoprene. I've done it successfully with various watersports gear mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3Mike02 View Post
    After more than a decade using intuitions I spent my first winter in zipfit workhorses this past year in NZ. I'm converted for sure.
    Turns out cochise 130 shells are a bit more high volume than I need, even in the right size. The intuitions were filling all the extra space.
    I had to pump 4 extra tubes of cork into each liner. At some point I think maybe I've added too much, or its in the wrong place. I tried to distribute it evenly between both sides, and the tongues.

    I think the cork might be twisting my feet like this... \ / and I'm getting quite bad pressure on the 6th toe area, even after having punches done to the shells. Anyone else experience this? Any suggestions?

    I'm also adjusting to how much room there is in the toe box and it feels like the front half of my foot is just floating out there. Maybe the extra room is contributing to that movement? I've read through as much of this thread as I could, it sounds like some people are putting shims under their footbeds to take up space?
    If you look at how those ankle pockets are channeled, it really is a crapshoot distributing cork into them blind, let alone 4 tubes worth into each liner.

    Zipfits are great if you have the right shellfit. Once you start having to add cork to the ankle pockets I don't know if finding boot-fit nirvana is ever going to happen. The Intuition reference is great because Intuitions really do a great job of masking a shitty shellfit...until they start to pack out.

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    That grip walk shit is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlamvanHam View Post
    If you look at how those ankle pockets are channeled, it really is a crapshoot distributing cork into them blind, let alone 4 tubes worth into each liner.

    Zipfits are great if you have the right shellfit. Once you start having to add cork to the ankle pockets I don't know if finding boot-fit nirvana is ever going to happen. The Intuition reference is great because Intuitions really do a great job of masking a shitty shellfit...until they start to pack out.

    You're in the wrong shell.
    Unfortunately I've learned the hard way. I've been using cochise with intuitions through the past 3 or 4 generations of that boot. Always with intuitions. They worked for me, skied well and didn't wreck my feet even when spending all day in the boots nearly year round. I even have an another set of shells ready to go when I trash the current ones. Buying new liners every couple winters sucks though, and after reading how much better zipfits ski I had to try them. I'm glad I got them, they certainly ski much better.

    With the cork, I started with about half a tube on each side of each liner and skied for a few days. Then another half tube, the more I added the better they felt. I guess just taking up all the extra space. After pumping them full of cork, they ski really well. Just the issues I mentioned before with the 6th toe and all the extra room in the forefoot. I also get a weird pressure directly on the back of my heel sometimes, which I'm guessing is just another issue caused with how much cork is in there.

    I guess I'm gonna try and get creative with some adhesive foam and see If I can make it work in the meantime.

    Anyone with a lower volume foot got a boot they can recommend? Needs a walk mode / tech fittings and I need to be able to put replaceable alpine soles on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3Mike02 View Post
    Unfortunately I've learned the hard way. I've been using cochise with intuitions through the past 3 or 4 generations of that boot. Always with intuitions. They worked for me, skied well and didn't wreck my feet even when spending all day in the boots nearly year round. I even have an another set of shells ready to go when I trash the current ones. Buying new liners every couple winters sucks though, and after reading how much better zipfits ski I had to try them. I'm glad I got them, they certainly ski much better.

    With the cork, I started with about half a tube on each side of each liner and skied for a few days. Then another half tube, the more I added the better they felt. I guess just taking up all the extra space. After pumping them full of cork, they ski really well. Just the issues I mentioned before with the 6th toe and all the extra room in the forefoot. I also get a weird pressure directly on the back of my heel sometimes, which I'm guessing is just another issue caused with how much cork is in there.

    I guess I'm gonna try and get creative with some adhesive foam and see If I can make it work in the meantime.

    Anyone with a lower volume foot got a boot they can recommend? Needs a walk mode / tech fittings and I need to be able to put replaceable alpine soles on them.
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    Thinking of trying some zipfit in my Dynafit Ridge. Kind of leaning toward the Gara vs the GFT. Would a LV be a better fit in this shell than a MV? With the LV I guess I can always add cork to get to MV.

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    Why are you leaning toward the Gara? It’s not going to flex well, so you’d need to go sans laces and may need to unbuckle the cuff completely so that the tongue doesn’t bind in the liner and restrict forward movement when walking (and rearward movement is almost nonexistent).

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    Already tour in intuition FX race. I’d ditch the laces and the liner power strap in the gara. Maybe the GFT is the real answer.

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    Touring in a Gara sucks

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    for you
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    I’m considering a Workhorse liner


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  14. #689
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    Loving my new work horse. Now have 96 hours of break in over the past 12 days. They’ve changed a fair bit for the better with so much use. So far not needing to add or remove any cork. I am using the laces and the power strap

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    Nice! So you’d consider them to be plush?

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    Absolutely not. I’d consider them to be stiff and like your foots in a firm cast. You already know what I considered plush. Not this.

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    Heh.

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    Running some Corsas in my Raptor WCR and get some shin bone pain when fully buckled. Didn't have the issue last season. Too much tongue cork or not enough? Have added a number of tubes to each liner.


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    Add some cork

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBogey View Post
    Add some cork
    Agreed.there is a ton of room in the corsa tongues to be stuffed.

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    Non Zipfit specific question but is all silicone spray created equal? Can I buy a can of DuPont Silicone spray from Ace instead of using bootfitter specific spray that I’d have to order online?

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    No idea, but way back when Salomon still had silicone spray for binding lube I had a can get punctured in a box with some bindings and all the plastic parts melted. So use your best judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waxman View Post
    No idea, but way back when Salomon still had silicone spray for binding lube I had a can get punctured in a box with some bindings and all the plastic parts melted. So use your best judgement.
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    Picked up a pair of Gara LV’s and so far they’ve been great, but they have more forward lean than I’d like. Any modifications I can make so they tolerate a more upright stance?


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    Do you have slop or room in the upper tongue between your shin? You could velcro spoilers to the outside of the tongue.

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