2006 FJ Cruiser

**fondigley** · 09-01-2005, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Corky

Too bad they don't make 'em like this vintage bad-ass 4x4 anymore...

Yeah. If you want that, you have to build your own.

**Shrubs** · 09-01-2005, 03:52 PM

New FJ = New beetle, as in nothing like the old one besides the name and a few lame styling queues.

Whoever said Jeep has lost their way, has lost their way. The Unlimited Rubicon may be the most capable off-road vehicle to have ever driven off a showroom floor. Ask around. Check out the Brute, too. I won't talk about the Limperty, though.

Most people who own 4x4s don't need them and should be driving subarus. No offense to subie owners, you were smart enough to recognize that right off the bat. If you really DO need a 4x4, as in really use it off-road, why in the f*ck would you want to do it in a $30K+ truck (unlimited rubicon exlcuded)??? I piss my pants with laughter everytime I see someone drag a body panel across a rock in their brand-new range rover. If you are off-roading in an F-250 then you probably don't live near mountains. They are definitely too big for most of the trails around CO.

I have a mildly modified cherokee that I traded for my beat audi, straight-up, and it is probably the perfect truck for out here. Light-weight, good HP, 4-door, short wheelbase, solid axles, blah, blah. They just have small wheel-wells, but that's nothing a sawzall can't fix. I drove mine right through an obstacle that half of the Xterra club in front of me were getting winched out of a week or two ago. Most of them were pretty modded out, too. That's what solid axles do for you. I still don't know how the RAV4 at the top of the trail got there. Brass balls, or sheer stupidity, I guess.

What the hell was I talking about?? Oh yeah, that new FJ is weak. Buy a real truck you don't mind beating on and a save the other $25k for a Mitsu Evolution for the street.

**truth** · 09-01-2005, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Shrubs

a Mitsu Evolution for the street.

Now that is funny.

**avacadotoast** · 09-01-2005, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Corky

Too bad they don't make 'em like this vintage bad-ass 4x4 anymore...

Originally Posted by fondigley

Yeah. If you want that, you have to build your own.

Heh...you mean that bad-ass single-AA powered 1980 Tyco Stomper....they're all over ebay...

...I thought at least one maggot that was between 6 and 10 in the early '80s would recognize those tires...didn't every kid have at least one...

**Toby** · 09-01-2005, 06:56 PM

If I won the lottery, the Mercedes G-wagen would be high on my list. Unfortunately we don't get them in Oz. Lockers front, back and centre, live axles, coils all round, ladder frame. High price tag for what it is, but I wouldn't mind trying one out. Plus it looks like a 4wd unlike some of the vehicles posted in this thread.

**1080Rider** · 09-02-2005, 09:09 AM

Again, my idea of a 4wd vehicle should carry:
5 people
Spare gas
gear for 5
some spare tools
2 spare tires

I don't see you getting all that into a wrangler. They're capable off roaders but there's too little utility and too much sport. As far as new offerings go prolly only the G wagon covers all of the above. I don't even think you can put full length racks on the new land rovers

**dude_le_skibum** · 10-10-2005, 12:22 AM

landcruisers are nice. nothings like the roaring thunder of that 93 hp, 3b powerhouse. i must say though that i have so much shit that the 4 door suits me better, fuck electronical, all mechanical is where its at. it just hit 333 333 kms..it rusts though..

**Arty50** · 10-10-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by KillingCokes

FORD Found on Road Dead
JEEP Just Empty Every Pocket

FJ is made by Toyota. Toys are the best. Period end of discussion

Really? My 83 CJ-7 disagrees with you. That car has been through more shit than 99% of the Toyotas on the road. It's the reason I'll never sell it...ever. And this is coming from someone who owns a Toyota. I have a 2005 4Runner that I absolutely love, but it will never replace my Jeep. The latter is like a fucking little tank.

**Free Range Lobster** · 10-10-2005, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by 1080Rider

Again, my idea of a 4wd vehicle should carry:
5 people
Spare gas
gear for 5
some spare tools
2 spare tires

I don't see you getting all that into a wrangler.

Easily done, rear gate rack + safari rack.
Been there, Done that.

**MTT** · 10-10-2005, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by EPSkis

It's certainly no fuglier than a Honda Element.

SO? what your point?

**1080Rider** · 10-10-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by likwid

Easily done, rear gate rack + safari rack.
Been there, Done that.

You got 5 people and gear into a wrangler??? I guess I should have qualified that, 5 people in comfort. I've got a full length roof rack on my discovery and I know I can hold more gear than almost anything you'll find in the woods. It still seems to get a little cramped. For two people a wrangler would be great, just not good for much more...

**lemon boy** · 10-10-2005, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Shrubs

If you are off-roading in an F-250 then you probably don't live near mountains. They are definitely too big for most of the trails around CO.

You know, I read a lot of ignorant stuff in this thread and I think that this one takes the cake

**pointemstraight** · 10-10-2005, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by snowsprite

I'm an ignorant broad, please enlighten me. Is deisel a good thing? I thought it was a pain in the ass.

I'm a little late on this thread, but since no one else answered her question...

Sprite, here's the deal with the desiel. 15 years ago, they got the reputation that they were smelly and problematic. Truth is, they get better gas mileage and typically have longer lives than a typical gasoline engine. The design of the deisel has come a long, long way.

When Volkswagen came out with the Jetta TDI, it was specifically NOT marketed as a deisel (thus the TDI acronym) for that very reason. VW wanted to get people to drive the car first, before they were able to fall back to their pre-determined notion that desiel's bad, uummkay?

Anyway, that's the poop.

Oh, and I saw a pack of those FJ's out in the SoCal mountains the other day - they were obviously doing a photo shoot or some promo thing - they had 5 of them, in all different colors, climbing around the bottom of the canyon. Though I'm not a big fan of the styling, it did look sorta cool.

**lemon boy** · 10-10-2005, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by pointemstraight

I'm a little late on this thread, but since no one else answered her question...

Sprite, here's the deal with the desiel. 15 years ago, they got the reputation that they were smelly and problematic. Truth is, they get better gas mileage and typically have longer lives than a typical gasoline engine. The design of the deisel has come a long, long way.

When Volkswagen came out with the Jetta TDI, it was specifically NOT marketed as a deisel (thus the TDI acronym) for that very reason. VW wanted to get people to drive the car first, before they were able to fall back to their pre-determined notion that desiel's bad, uummkay?

Anyway, that's the poop.

Oh, and I saw a pack of those FJ's out in the SoCal mountains the other day - they were obviously doing a photo shoot or some promo thing - they had 5 of them, in all different colors, climbing around the bottom of the canyon. Though I'm not a big fan of the styling, it did look sorta cool.

Ooops, yeah sprite, what he said:
better mileage
better power
longer life

once you've driven a diesel going back to gas just isn't a realistic option.

**mntlion** · 10-10-2005, 03:06 PM

http://driveit.clickspace.com/webpage/1000865/1000121

Oct 10, 2005 05100910AR: 1989 Toyota Landcruiser VX diesel turbo 4WD
Oct 10, 2005 05100901AR: 1987 Toyota Landcruiser GX (HJ60)
Oct 10, 2005 05100902AR: 1990 (Oct) Toyota Hilux Surf SSR Limited
Oct 10, 2005 05100903AR: 1990 (Sep) Nissan Safari
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Oct 10, 2005 05100906AR: 1989 Mitsubishi Pajero diesel turbo 4WD
Oct 10, 2005 05100907AR: 1990 Mitsubishi Pajero XL Wide diesel turbo 4WD
Oct 10, 2005 05100908AR: 1990 Mitsubishi Pajero diesel turbo 4WD
Oct 10, 2005 05100905AR: 1990 Suzuki Escudo Nomad 4WD
Oct 10, 2005 05100909AR: 1990 (Feb) Toyota Sprinter Carib Touring SP 4WD

looks like great prices (in CAD funds)

$7400 CAD

Vehicle Details
1990 Toyota Hilux Surf SSR Limited
2.4-litre diesel 4WD
Automatic
78,000 kms
Gunmetal Grey
Air conditioning
Power steering
Power windows
Sunroof
Bush bar

**ccwaskier** · 10-10-2005, 10:42 PM

to all over you who know about landcruisers:

i've got a 92 cruiser and i know these cars are known for being very slow and underpowered, but i can't go more than 30mph over vail pass. hoosier pass or any step windy road is a disaster, shifting all over the place. the thing does have 220,000 miles and original transmision. As you can probably tell i know nothing about cars, but is this normal for the car or is there hope that by fixing something it can pick up some speed (enough to make it to the mountain before lunch). I like the car and its great to beat up and not worry about, but i have to beable to go a little faster.

**aspenskibum** · 10-10-2005, 11:22 PM

hmm, my subbeee just got totaled a week ago by some dumb bitch that ran a stop sign, and im in the market for a new car. Too bad i don't have like 70k lying around.

**mntlion** · 10-11-2005, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by aspenskibum

hmm, my subbeee just got totaled a week ago by some dumb bitch that ran a stop sign, and im in the market for a new car. Too bad i don't have like 70k lying around.

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can you fly to alberta and drive home?