Lange XT3 Tour Pro - praise, gripes, hacks, and mods

[jackattack]

Whats up with this 99mm last?
I’ve been in 97mm Lange RS130s forever and they seem to fit quite well, will I be swimming in the wider last? I did try these on at waxman’s shop and they feel like slippers.

I wouldn’t ski anything other than the RS at the ski hill so these would be a dedicated touring boot. That being said, a day of touring for me is realistically only 3-4k vert. I do like to ski fast but my glass knees limit my airtime these days. Will I be happy with the Pro’s performance or would I be happier in an XT3 140?

Does Lange have a new and improved touring boot coming next year?

To me, the xt3 140 is a hybrid resort/slack boot. I have toured 2.5k and it was fine but id much rather do it in my tour pros. The tour pro is more than adequate for bc wild snow. It only starts to show its lack of weight in variable resort conditions.

[gwat]

What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

[jackattack]

What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

I only had this happen when I tried an intuitiion liner, using Lange XT3 pro liners I haven't had any issues and the boot skis great.

[Full Trucker]

What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

Like jackattack, I've only ever had this happen when using an Intuition liner. I've used a couple different styles of Lange liner, all worked great. When I did chat with a bootfitter about it a few years back we got looking at the ski/tour wedge plate inside the boot and the liner for ideas. The Lange liner has a piece of very soft and very smooth fabric right where the wedge is in the boot, that assumably reduces the friction against the wedge so the movement of the liner doesn’t move it and flip the boot into ski mode. We came up with a few ideas that might be worth to trying out if you're so inclined:

1. Stick some sort of smooth slippery tape to the plastic wedge in the boot. That wedge has a bunch of holes in it, so maybe that’s exacerbating the rougher liner material of the Intuition grabbing on to and able to move it?
2. Another thought was the same, but different: cover the liner with something like K-Tape, which would be smoother and more slippery, and also smooth out the stitch rib in that area of the Intuition, making that less likely to grab onto that wedge.
3. Put a rear spoiler (shim, cuff, whatever you wanna call it) in there, that’s just slightly thicker than the ski/tour wedge, and would hold the liner away from the wedge just enough to give it room and not let the liner move the wedge.

[gwat]

^ thanks.

[Full Trucker]

I think SoVT Joey skis Zipfit liners in his, and I don't recall ever seeing anything from him about having this issue. So maybe it's really ONLY an Intuition liner problem?

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My oem liners are beat. Getting some foamy injected liners from a friend. Looked at zipfits and want them but they cost more than a new pair of boots.

[gwat]

I think SoVT Joey skis Zipfit liners in his, and I don't recall ever seeing anything from him about having this issue. So maybe it's really ONLY an Intuition liner problem?

Zipfits in mine and it only takes a few strides to lock. I'll experiment with tape and a shim...

[Full Trucker]

My oem liners are beat. Getting some foamy injected liners from a friend. Looked at zipfits and want them but they cost more than a new pair of boots.

I've got a pair of never skied and never baked Dual 3D Liner "FULL" from my 130 XT3 (regular, not the Tour Pro) that I'd let go for $120 shipped. They're 100g (?) heavier than the liner form the Tour Pro, but they ski a lot better. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

[SoVT Joey]

I have had the problem. I started keeping my upper cuffs tight and that seemed to stop it. Also keep powder cuffs above the latch so nothing is rubbing on it. Someone put snaps on the tether and a snap on the shell to snap it open.


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[SoVT Joey]

The stock liner and intuition was definitely worse than the Zipfit. I think the Zipfit is slipperier then the others.


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[jackattack]

I have had the problem. I started keeping my upper cuffs tight and that seemed to stop it. Also keep powder cuffs above the latch so nothing is rubbing on it. Someone put snaps on the tether and a snap on the shell to snap it open.


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That snap was a cool mod but yeah I haven’t found it necessary with the xt3 pro liner.

[Name Redacted]

I've got a pair of never skied and never baked Dual 3D Liner "FULL" from my 130 XT3 (regular, not the Tour Pro) that I'd let go for $120 shipped. They're 100g (?) heavier than the liner form the Tour Pro, but they ski a lot better. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

thx, appreciated. But I think I am gonna try out the foam injection thing, we will see. Mine are the 140 flex but not sure how much of that is liner. Love the boots, but they are definitely taking a beating. Trying to revive them.