Sobriety, V2.

[mooseknuckle]

Best I’ve found in the WC IPA NA segment is made by Bravus.

NA Guinness is on my list. I have yet to see it available when I’m out looking.

[riser4]

I never liked regular IPA. Therefore NA IPA is also a non-starter. The grocery store; s full of macro-brew NA and all kinds of NA IPA. There are so many other NA beers!

[byates1]

For me as a full blown alcoholic those na beers are a no go. Would be the beginning of a slippery slope. I'm just selty boy now..

[riser4]

I'm not sure why we keep talking about NA beers here. Im happy to keep it in the NA beer and decaf thread if everyone else will also abide. Apologies.

[byates1]

No big to me. Actually good to get different opinions. If you've had a real problem w alcohol, and you were a beer drinker, the consensus is to stay clear of beer. I had a couple early on but def felt weird. Ive always drank seltzer anyway so now my road sodas are actually sodas.

If you're a drinker who hasn't gone deep into alcohol abuse and want to dial back and appreciate beers the na's are amazing these days. Bitd it was just odouls.

The bonus of commiting to sober community is you are released from temptation. It's fucking weird it's like I never drank. But oh boy did I def drank.

[Cono Este]

Some years ago, there was a bit of animosity concerning my doubt of AA and how it hadn't worked for some close to me.

Not saying it can't ever work, just that there's other ways of managing the situation.

My best friend has done well back home in AA.

The current predicament I’m involved in with my “lady friend”, she’s made it too social, same with rehab roommates, it’s her life. I question that, because she’s gotten weed gummy’s and Xanax, from them. Not to mention all the male attention.

I met her sponsor last week, and they no doubt trust me now after camping out at her house for a week and getting her sober, but I just don’t trust after the first time, when they told her to boot me, it led to this relapse.

She could have died last Monday, and all week, barely anyone showed up, and the sponsor was out of town.

I sold my house today, suppose to be in Utah in 2 months, I’m willing to extend to keep her sober, but frankly I feel hopeless.

[byates1]

Bro if she doesn't want it it is hopeless. You can move heaven and earth, but if she is constantly on and off it's going to suck. Maybe somehow she'll really look in the mirror. Best of luck.

[Cono Este]

Thanks. I’m moving forward with my plans, in a few weeks, when this loan approval goes through, I have to somehow explain what I am willing to do continue to do. She did listen to me last week, I’m gonna leave it to her to ask for more help or not, hopefully she can remember I brought some peace. If so, I’ll stay longer and play it by ear.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Cono you are a good partner and most everyone in your shoes has the best of intentions, but at the end of the day it slowly transitions from support to enabling.

I don't really know how else to put it without sounding heartless. No one can get another person sober. Chances are she will tell you a whole pile of promises and give you praise and tell you how she won't let you down again........and then in a week or a month she will do it all over again. It's just the sad reality. I've been through it with my sister for 20+ years.

Theres a big difference between giving someone a ride to meetings and actively supporting their recovery with proper boundaries vs. playing wet nurse.

[Cono Este]

Cono you are a good partner and most everyone in your shoes has the best of intentions, but at the end of the day it slowly transitions from support to enabling.

I don't really know how else to put it without sounding heartless. No one can get another person sober. Chances are she will tell you a whole pile of promises and give you praise and tell you how she won't let you down again........and then in a week or a month she will do it all over again. It's just the sad reality. I've been through it with my sister for 20+ years.

Theres a big difference between giving someone a ride to meetings and actively supporting their recovery with proper boundaries vs. playing wet nurse.

You’re right. This was just because her parents were gone, and so I could get her out of her hell hole, over to her parents and I was In touch with her mother. In January, I basically grilled her and went skiing. Problem is, you walk into this shit, with no experience, and the lies keep unfolding. More layers to the onion, especially women shit. Very, very sad.

I signed the contract on my house, moving august 23 rd. She’s not coming with.

[byates1]

Go west young man

[fastfred]

You dumb fucking cunt cono

Dump the bitch

Goto al anon meeting tonight or tomorro go fuck you go

Sell your house goto utah or wherever

Fuckbyhos bitch you are being a stupid bitch you love sabotage you love being a martyr go fuck yourself you dumb fuck goto Al anon now you fucking pussy.

[riser4]

You dumb fucking cunt cono

Dump the bitch

Goto al anon meeting tonight or tomorro go fuck you go

Sell your house goto utah or wherever

Fuckbyhos bitch you are being a stupid bitch you love sabotage you love being a martyr go fuck yourself you dumb fuck goto Al anon now you fucking pussy.

Classic.

[m2711c]

a succinctly articulated point fred...


fact.

[byates1]

Well then

[Core Shot]

Drunk posting yelling at someone to go AA is classic fastfreddy

[buttahflake]

Some ‘people’ think fatfred is cool. Never did never will

[Bunion 2020]

I signed the contract on my house, moving august 23 rd. She’s not coming with.

Good move and with all due respect, maybe look into your pattern of falling in with damaged and crazy women. Just sayin.

[byates1]

They are the best horizontally. Vertically it gets old.

[riser4]

Some ‘people’ think fatfred is cool. Never did never will

Cooler than you are.

[DBdude]

Fast Fred is a performance piece


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[Cono Este]

Good move and with all due respect, maybe look into your pattern of falling in with damaged and crazy women. Just sayin.

I wasn’t dating her, just a friend. We dated a yr ago, I stayed friends cause she had two kids, I even tried to get her back with her husband. I’m just a dumb nice guy. I do like her, but stayed the fuck away after the first rehab fail. I would have dumped her at her parents house, but they took off. So I stayed to keep her from another dui, keep her sober.

Fast Fred is right, totally stupid of me, but if she dies, at least i know I gave it my best.

Very sad for those of you in here with loved ones in this state, you have my sympathy’s.

Next stop Solitude and a 50 plus day season, this town sucks.

[californiagrown]

Im wasn’t dating her, just a friend. We dated a yr ago,

Might want to introspect on this while you drive out to your new home. You will want to make friends out there and many times the easiest people to meet and connect with are the type of people you have a pattern of being with. Dont want to fall into the same old trap in a brand new town.

[Cono Este]

Might want to introspect on this while you drive out to your new home. You will want to make friends out there and many times the easiest people to meet and connect with are the type of people you have a pattern of being with. Dont want to fall into the same old trap in a brand new town.

I don’t want to get into dating here, but they hide it. I just make friends now, too old.

[Bunion 2020]

Fair enough, best of luck with your new locale. SLC has a lot going for it.