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Thread: To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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    ^^^Seems like i should know way more people with long covid to fit that rate... so i want to know what the definition of long covid is that applies to that 6% number. Do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nuclear Option View Post
    No logical fallacy. No one asserted that all DVT cases were Covid related. That is in effect a strawman argument. Honestly, it concerns me that you guys are the great doctors ready to save us as you conflate things, argue that sources quoted say something different than they due our of arrogant laziness, and de facto execute on a strawman basis. IMO your biggest weakness IS your experience and expertise.
    But that's exactly what your first post implied, that you suspected your uncles dvt and pes were due to covid, even though as far as you know he didnt have it and you admitted you didnt know the details of his case, although you did accuse your family of a cover up. Paranoia and conspiracy theories are not limited to the MAGA world.
    Criticizing the medical community for its arrogance (justified) and for its expertise and experience (not so much) is how you wind up as Sec of HHS

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    Trying that link from Tapatalk

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...n-(long-covid)

    Article is titled
    Post COVID-19 condition (long COVID)
    WHO twenty-six February of this year.

    I’m sure there are other and more nuanced articles from the putrino lab team, the lab at Yale, etc. I didn’t dig.

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    58 yr old male in ICU secondary to massive saddle emboli, right heart failure with cardiac arrest with ROSC achieved, successful catheter directed thrombectomy. Morning echo shows persistent, severe right ventricular hypokinesis, severe tricuspid regurgitation, PAWP < 10, RAP 20, CI < 2. He remains unresponsive secondary to cardiac arrest/hypoxic ischemic encephalopathy. Is requiring moderate dose levophed for persistent hypoperfusion secondary to right heart failure.

    Assessment/Plan:
    58 yr old male, probably Republican, probably not covid vaccinated in ICU secondary to massive/catastrophic saddle emboli. Given his political affiliation, likely not vaccinated, PE likely due to Covid. Therefore no further hematologist work up or other differentials considered. Hematology consult not necessary.

    Wean pressors/vent as tolerated, continue heparin. Consider ECMO for deterioration.

    With all due respect, imagine if this was a real note with consideration giving to political affiliation. You’d be in deep trouble rather quickly. Maybe unemployed.

    Politics has destroyed trust in healthcare. It’s unfortunate.

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    For those who don't read the link. In that summary, Long Covid includes a wide range of symptoms that appear within a few months following infection and last for at least a few months. Many of the symptoms are the sort of thing I would not know someone suffered from. Many are also the sort of symptom I wouldn't associate with infection. E.g. If I had trouble sleeping, I wouldn't think it was due to an earlier infection. It seems reasonable that 6% get a long Covid symptom, many of their friends don't know, and many do not know themselves. The number 6% is also a summary number that varies widely across the studies that link summarizes.

    I certainly know of plenty of people who have or had long-covid. I could be convinced the true percentage is higher or lower than 6% and that would fit my observations, accounting for all the unknown biases of first person observation. 1%? yeah, maybe I'm too focused on the cases I'm aware of. 20%? yeah, maybe many people get the minor symptoms and they don't notice or just don't talk about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    Politics has destroyed trust in healthcare. It&rsquo;s unfortunate.
    QFT.

    And they are currently working on destroying what is left in the trust in science in general.

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    Silly me, I currently have a blood clot and I have been posting about it for over 2 months in Gimp Central. Hardly anyone other than Old Goat and body whomper have responded in that thread.

    Turns out all the blood clot experts on TRG are hanging out in this thread.

    As buttuh would say, laps all you fucking beaters.


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    All the unprovoked blood clotting experts are in the hematology offices, the rest work in ortho. We are all infectious disease specialists here, and dentists, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Silly me, I currently have a blood clot and I have been posting about it for over 2 months in Gimp Central. Hardly anyone other than Old Goat and body whomper have responded in that thread.

    Turns out all the blood clot experts on TRG are hanging out in this thread.

    As buttuh would say, laps all you fucking beaters.


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    I almost commented on your post today in regards to that as your post therewas right after this one was bumped lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    ^^^Seems like i should know way more people with long covid to fit that rate... so i want to know what the definition of long covid is that applies to that 6% number. Do you know?
    I had long covid. Camped out in my lungs for 2 months. 62yo and I had 4 jabs. I took 3 tests all were +. My wife and FIL both got it within 1.5 weeks each

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    I had long Covid.
    Sick for 9 months.
    No vaccine available for the first 3 months.
    I was prioritized for the first vaccine.
    It helped.
    It didn't completely get rid of my symptoms.
    I had Delta.
    My doctor always questions me now on if it changed me.
    It did change me.
    Anyways, I got another booster yesterday.
    Had friends just come back from Texas with Covid last week.
    It's getting busy again.
    The new booster will be out in August.



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    Dueling letters:
    Montana State political science professor Paul Lachapelle and retired University of Montana dean James Burchfield;Climate science is essential to our democracy, May 30) will be pleased to know net greenhouse gas emissions fell 11% in 2020, the last year of President Trumps administration, while falling two-tenth of 1 percent during 2024, the last year of President Bidens administration, according to the Rhodium Group.

    These numbers obviously do not tell the entire picture but perhaps professors Lachapelle and Burchfield could invite the jet-set duo of Al Gore and Sen. Bernie Sanders to help me interpret the numbers over the past eight years.

    Sean Oliver Belgrade

    And

    In response to Sean Oliver,( Greenhouse gas emissions fell more under Trump than Biden, June 3).

    Yes greenhouse emissions did decrease during the last year of the Trump administration and by a very large amount, one never seen during the Biden term.

    There was a global pandemic and most industrial activities as well as vehicle use was drastically curtailed.

    COVID ... it was in the newspapers.






    Thanks for the research.
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    TWINS--you clearly have lost your vision to the right.

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    Twins, sorry to read that. I have two close friends that continue to suffer. One cognitive and one has debilitating neuro problems in one leg. The cognitive one is from late 2020.

    The leg one is unclear if it’s actually related to Covid, but it’s not been ruled out and symptom onset was shortly after an infection. They have access to one of the better med teams in NorCal. Goat probably knows their father.

    Here you go, nerds!

    Ischaemic endothelial necroptosis induces haemolysis and COVID-19 angiopathy

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09076-x

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