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Thread: To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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    Boosts the odds that I won't get put in the hospital or die.

    Your welcome.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Joe View Post
    I do not know what the answer is but I have to believe that thousands of years of natural evolution has some positive effects in fighting infections. a few months of nerds in a lab also probably have come up with something good too. I just don't know what is better and Lester Holt or others telling me something isn't going to convince me. If I was In the lab maybe I would have more conviction about some study's concussions, but everyone is seeking a paycheck so it's hard for me to trust things from mainstream, I still need some time to pass before anything becomes believable fact. Remember facts change over time as more info becomes available.
    Do you have a concussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    The vax doesn't prevent you from catching it. It doesn't prevent you from spreading it. What exactly is a booster going to boost?
    CO says that 20% of COVID cases in July were among the fully vaxxed. While that's not ideal, don't let innumeracy fool you.

    In CO, 2X as many adults are fully vaxxed than not. That means half as many people had 4X more disease which is an 8X higher risk. So far in CO vaccines are still 7/8, or 87% effective against Delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
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    You can’t be this fucking stupid, can you? At this point it’s just you trolling with your dick in one hand and whatever room temp iq conservative meme feed you’ve hooked up to in the other?
    Please respond with facts and not emotions. You sound like a woman.

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    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

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    Are you that ignorant?
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    https://www.aspentimes.com/news/high...ated-visitors/

    And now the blame game starts...

    It went from: "It's 100% effective" to "Let's encourage our vaccine hesitant neighbors" to " its your fault my vaccine isn't working." In the span of about a month.
    I don’t know anyone saying “it’s your fault my vaccine isn’t working”, does your article even say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Joe View Post
    I don't believe Rand Paul either. It's good that people are promoting vaccines and things they hope will make society better. But we aren't talking about a 30% death rate here, why is everyone's blood pressure up so high.


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    It's just a global pandemic, so meh. 600,000+ deaths in just over 18 months. Don't be a fucking moron. You need to go talk to some doctors and nurses, IRL, not on the interwebs, you might get a wake up call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    Do you have a concussion?
    obviously. it's his way of screaming, SHOW ME THE SCIENCE, without sounding like a brainwashed MAGA moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    It went from: "It's 100% effective" to "Let's encourage our vaccine hesitant neighbors" to " its your fault my vaccine isn't working." In the span of about a month.
    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    Please respond with facts and not emotions.
    please have some self awareness

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    Man the pure evil part of me wishes we'd started with Delta.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Nothing wrong with it, I personally am for it, especially the egregious cases. And in fact some have been banned over the last year+ (they sometimes come back too). But they aren't magically going to get banned by the server closet misinformation detector, people need to report the posts, to demonstrate a pattern of misinformation.
    Would you mind clarifying this a little further? Is the policy that if a poster gets reported often enough they get banned? Or do the reports need to spell out the pattern of misinformation? Asking because that seems like the first mention of such a pattern being a factor (that I've seen).

    FTR, I don't think we have a lot of intentional misinformation posters (outside PA), but the few we have seem to carry weight with the casually uninformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Man the pure evil part of me wishes we'd started with Delta.
    That was your design, right? I can see how you'd have a certain connection to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Man the pure evil part of me wishes we'd started with Delta.
    If you really want to go pure evil: it only kills kids.

    Seriously. If it only killed kids, everyone would've followed every expert recommendation from the onset, and everyone would've been clamoring for the vaccines as soon as they became available.

    Nobody would've had the luxury - and that's what it is - to say 'I'll wait for the _____"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    Please respond with facts and not emotions. You sound like a woman.
    There's still some debate about if they are needed for the general public, but here you go.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02158-6

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    https://www.aspentimes.com/news/high...ated-visitors/

    And now the blame game starts...

    It went from: "It's 100% effective" to "Let's encourage our vaccine hesitant neighbors" to " its your fault my vaccine isn't working." In the span of about a month.

    The vax doesn't prevent you from catching it. It doesn't prevent you from spreading it. What exactly is a booster going to boost?
    Article doesn’t say what you say it does, ban this clown. None of your “quotes” are real except for encouraging the vaccine hesitant. Fuck off you sociopath


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    The vax doesn't prevent you from catching it. It doesn't prevent you from spreading it. What exactly is a booster going to boost?
    Yes it does. Yes it does (because of the first part). Immune response.

    How far up your ass did you have to go to pull that one out?

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    “Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Joe View Post
    I don't believe Rand Paul either. It's good that people are promoting vaccines and things they hope will make society better. But we aren't talking about a 30% death rate here, why is everyone's blood pressure up so high.


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    Just one of many reasons.

    https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/stat...1%2Findex.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Man the pure evil part of me wishes we'd started with Delta.
    Might have gotten a few more people to pay attention. Definitely would have culled a lot more. However that would have been ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Last February, ahead of the widespread vaccine rollout he was posting articles claiming we were already on the cusp of herd immunity due to natural infection and that the pandemic would be over by April.
    Yes, he's a troll in the ILC/DBT tradition. Jimmy Carter an up and coming hopeful for the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Man the pure evil part of me wishes we'd started with Delta.
    I’m leaning that way. I have to go back to the hospital tomorrow and we’re having to take care of so many unvaccinated people. We’re also starting furloughs again because our elective surgeries are postponed. I’m really excited about this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    If you really want to go pure evil: it only kills kids.

    Seriously. If it only killed kids, everyone would've followed every expert recommendation from the onset, and everyone would've been clamoring for the vaccines as soon as they became available.

    Nobody would've had the luxury - and that's what it is - to say 'I'll wait for the _____"
    Well it is killing pregnant women and fetuses


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    https://www.aspentimes.com/news/high...ated-visitors/

    And now the blame game starts...

    It went from: "It's 100% effective" to "Let's encourage our vaccine hesitant neighbors" to " its your fault my vaccine isn't working." In the span of about a month.

    The vax doesn't prevent you from catching it. It doesn't prevent you from spreading it. What exactly is a booster going to boost?
    This is a ridiculous post. No one ever said the vax was 100%, and this variant didn't exist when the vaxes were rolled out. And we always knew this would happen if people didn't get vaccinated, and now it's happening. What's your point?

    You people are fucking it up for all of us--just stop being willfully ignorant and pretending you can question basic facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    CO says that 20% of COVID cases in July were among the fully vaxxed. While that's not ideal, don't let innumeracy fool you.

    In CO, 2X as many adults are fully vaxxed than not. That means half as many people had 4X more disease which is an 8X higher risk. So far in CO vaccines are still 7/8, or 87% effective against Delta.
    And they are essentially 100% effective at preventing death/serious illness. These numbers about how many cases occur in vaxed people are misleading--most of the infections in vaxed people are, at worst, the equivalent of a mild flu (unfortunately for him I have a friend who's currently quarantining after coming up positive while being fully vaxed--he has mild flu symptoms and some chest tightness).
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