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Thread: What's your strategy for skiing bumps/moguls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    my brain is getting softer and smoother, but i found the video. The whole thing is a classic, but the sequence with the great bump line skiing starts at 2:48
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    Avoid them. Don’t ski them. Seriously we don’t really get moguls at local hill


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
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    So this pic is good example of what people should be doing, but don't. (Well except that hand drop [emoji6]) Most people I see skiing bumps are too static/stiff. Your knees need to be going up toward your chest. Bumps are an intense workout if you're skiing them properly.

    So if you want to ski them better, get in better shape. Abs are key.

    They do make you a better skier overall without a doubt.

    @bendtheski is a bump ripper. Listen to his advice.

    There was a time I enjoyed skiing them at kmart when Donna's ponytail was bouncing down OL, but I could honestly care less about ever skiing them again. I was never that good anyway. My good friend was on the pro circuit and even he doesn't seek them out anymore.

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    To respond to the OP...no strategy necessary, just learn to ski them. And then you will realize that there a lot of different ways (but IMO the right way is straight down the zipperline, like all the good (competition) mogul skiers usually do--this style has slightly changed over the past few decades but is still fundamentally stay in the fucking fall line and make it work, regardless of what the bumps are like).
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    I loved bumps in the 80s, still do but they are very different animals these days; there was a time when (not that long ago) the only skis that created "good" bump runs on the steeps were 68 wide and 205 long, on runs only good skiers ventured; had to make a round turn to check speed, not a 120wide 180s making hokey stops or a 155x26 heelside bulldozer arms aflail anywhere is sight but the future.

    ps tips down, hands forward, head/shoulders still, flick don't plant, feet together, find a fall line and zipper it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b0ardski View Post
    I loved bumps in the 80s, still do but they are very different animals these days; there was a time when (not that long ago) the only skis that created "good" bump runs on the steeps were 68 wide and 205 long, on runs only good skiers ventured; had to make a round turn to check speed, not a 120wide 180s making hokey stops or a 155x26 heelside bulldozer arms aflail anywhere is sight but the future.
    The evolution of moguls in my 50+ years of skiing is kind of interesting. When I was 13 and really starting to focus on skiing them, I was probably 5'-5" tall, maybe 130 lbs and skiing on a pair of 203's. The bumps were all formed by people skiing 200+ skis and were pretty good skiers so the bumps were elongated with nice turn shape.

    By the mid to later 70's, there was a fad for going to short skis, 170'ish range. I hated them! The shops were really pushing these short skis out the door and the moguls were becoming these chopped up stair steps without a good flow for the longer skis that I skied. I remember seeing signs at some area runs that called for nothing shorter than 200 cm. I actually did cave when I was around 19 or so and bought a pair of Authier A3 in, I think, 174. They were short. And awful. But, they fit the bumps better, which was what I was after. Those skis lasted a couple years then it was back to something more reasonable.

    Skis started getting longer again toward 1980, as I recall, and the bumps started getting better. Then came the snowboards that started creating the cascading stair ridges again. Someone above noted that they're from defensive turns. That seems about right.

    Anyway, since about 1990, I really haven't been skiing bumps much as we really don't get them at Schweitzer too often. Every now and then, No Joke will be allowed to bump up and I'll run it four or five times. Other than that, not much that isn't mowed down by the groomers. What I have noticed, though, is that when we get them, they seem to be a little more like the old days and fun to ski. But I have to throw this back to Glenn Plake who famously states: Short skis suck!

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    loved my mark V's ,203 slalom skis ftw
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    Yeah, I had two pair of 205 Mark II V.C.E that I loved. First pair, the bases were popping out chunks where the edge cracks were, replaced by warranty, stolen at Jack Ass the following year. I loved them but they weren't that great of a design idea. The bases on the second ones were popping, too but I just skied them like that. Was going to send them in at the end of the season but, gone... Home owners insurance and I was onto something else, maybe the Authiers??? don't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b0ardski View Post
    I loved bumps in the 80s, still do but they are very different animals these days; there was a time when (not that long ago) the only skis that created "good" bump runs on the steeps were 68 wide and 205 long, on runs only good skiers ventured; had to make a round turn to check speed, not a 120wide 180s making hokey stops or a 155x26 heelside bulldozer arms aflail anywhere is sight but the future.

    ps tips down, hands forward, head/shoulders still, flick don't plant, feet together, find a fall line and zipper it.
    Snowboarding has forever fucked up bumps. Go to Alta/Snowbird well after a storm and compare bumps on both sides of the border. Its blatant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teledave View Post
    I knew this would happen when Epic went under.
    Heh.

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    My current strategy is to wait until 2022 to ski them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyk View Post
    My current strategy is to wait until 2022 to ski them.
    Good idea. By then, they will have gotten rid of the old used ones and replaced them with some new stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Snowboarding has forever fucked up bumps. Go to Alta/Snowbird well after a storm and compare bumps on both sides of the border. Its blatant.
    I promise I don’t say this just to be contrarian, but I expected that to be true, then when I lived there and had the combined pass I found I liked the rounder flowier lines at Snowbird better than the sharp walls I found at Alta.

    I remember being really surprised about it.

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    I've degraded far more than the moguls have.

    I still like getting after them in the right conditions.
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    What's your strategy for skiing bumps/moguls?

    My strategy is to take four to five turns at a time then stop. maybe this season I’ll get to six!

    Where’s that other thread, there was one video that helped me a lot. A coach was describing the absorbing motion and it finally dawned on me I was getting into the backseat trying to “absorb”

    These days I still suck but I’m going the same speed of suck no matter what line I chose. Ideally, anyway.

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    Maybe a bit “hooky” and my bad skill leads to tips crossing but a small waist I can take a couple turns on one side if I need to. Like up the side but then back down the same side on the back, more like 3 instead of two if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    My strategy is to take four to five turns at a time then stop. maybe this season I’ll get to six!

    Where’s that other thread, there was one video that helped me a lot. A coach was describing the absorbing motion and it finally dawned on me I was getting into the backseat trying to “absorb”
    Go to 1:20 on this video. It illustrates the absorption pretty well.


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    Back in the day the bumps were rounder, the powder was deeper, the women were freer, the music was louder, the drugs were trippier . . .

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    Zipper ..Straight down stop and gasp for air after 30 . Repeat .... Natural ,straight down hit a bunch set up a nice air into a trough and stop ....gasp for air . I'm almost 60and still have my knees so might as well go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    I promise I don’t say this just to be contrarian, but I expected that to be true, then when I lived there and had the combined pass I found I liked the rounder flowier lines at Snowbird better than the sharp walls I found at Alta.

    I remember being really surprised about it.
    Other may disagree but also do not see a big difference between bumps either place.

    Just wanted to point out that, yes, if you are fall line charging bumps can be real tiring, but if you ski them right you can also drop down the fall line nice and easy with barely any work at all, smooth, quick and clean. Just get your skis down the next bump nice and quick and set the edge. Let the next bump drive your knees back up. Like watah.

    I seek them out end of day when I’m tired to get a break from screaming quads from g force turns chasing the fast fuckers I ski with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel View Post
    Just don't do it like this



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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Back in the day the bumps were rounder, the powder was deeper, the women were freer, the music was louder, the drugs were trippier . . .
    Squirrel to Harkin; nice run in qualifying today, were you on shrooms or what?
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    Straight skis, bent knees
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    Point it. More time in the air than on the snow. Quick speed checks on the tops.

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