Neighbors...

[gravitylover]

Different situation.

These same dog owners will let their dogs stop and bark at people in the front yard. This draws the dogs that live there to start barking and it can get chaotic. Just keep walking.

[thedude2340]

That would be a weird and wholly unnecessary thing to do. That would go against exhibit A of why dogs are awesome.

Also, though, when you walk three 75lb dogs at the same time you have to be on mission or things get out of hand quickly, if only from a leash management perspective.

Also, though, who’s walking who? Be in charge, ya pansies. Your dogs will actually appreciate it.

I’d propose doing a bit of quick reading on why dogs stop and smell outside their home environment. Dog language is pretty cool, might give you a different perspective on those walks and your dogs will actually appreciate it (and you can maintain your alpha status).

Three 75 pounders would be a real challenge at the same time, however.

[Mustonen]

I wrote my post in a way that said I wouldn’t let my dogs stop and sniff the odd interesting smell. I get that.

To set the record straight I would actually let them stop for a few moments here and there in appropriate places, particularly when they were working on just the right place to drop a deuce. Lingering in somebody’s yard or letting them thoroughly inspect a neighbor’s flower garden for literal minutes, though? No. A few seconds here and there, usually not more than 5-10 unless we’re working on a squat. Then “leave it” we move on. Which is actually pretty much what I posted.

You guys probably use retractable leashes too.

These days we have an 8 acre wooded lot that they have free roam of. Happy dogs, and my biggest concern now is that the odd coyote or wolf or bear who wanders in doesn’t wander out just as quickly.

[PB]

I'm in the a leashed dog is a controlled dog camp, with a little bit of leeway for primary dog behavior.

I do, however, use flexi-retractable leashes. I readily acknowledge that most people are idiots with such leashes - it's much more work for the walker and requires non-stop focus on your dog's location and behavior, not to mention a thumb work-out. Fortunately, most people realize this pretty quickly and revert to regular leash. And yet even on a fixed leash, an amazing number of people end up tripping themselves, getting hung up on a leash attached to an un-controlled dog.

[rideit]

[yeahman]

Trying to reason with Dog Nation is a waste of time. I mean these people deal with the stinkiest poop and farts imaginable every day. They tolerate dog hair all over their car, furniture, bed sheets, and clothes. They clean dog puke off the carpet and have piss stains all over the house. They spend a fricking fortune on dog food and vet bills. All of this rots their brains. Anybody who thinks these zealots can be reasoned with is kidding themselves. Just carry pepper spray and keep the phone number for animal control handy.

[Foggy_Goggles]

No bad dogs, just bad dog owners. Like most things in life, you get out of it what you put it. Many dog owners just don't put in the work and just spew bullshit for their dogs bad behavior.

[mcski]

This^. If your dog is reactive, that’s on you. Not the dog, not some other dog for “taunting”, or neighbors for lingering. Just poor training

Yes I have dogs. And they both can be reactive. That’s on me. I don’t go blaming the neighbor for letting their dog stop in front of my house

[PB]

What if your spouse is reactive??

[old goat]

Also very helpful. Thank you for your guidance.

You're welcome. Somebody had to.

[Mustonen]

Since OG isn’t here to be pedantic, I will….

It’s different to keep putting your dog in situations that you know makes other people uncomfortable or that makes other dogs or people react. You don’t have to stop everywhere your dog does. You can keep moving. It’s called being a good neighbor/citizen.

Also, all dogs are reactive. All people are reactive. I’ve mentioned several times that my one dog will bite your dog if your dog gets in his face. That sucks and that’s on me. This same dog will walk perfectly off leash, though, and is the only dog I’ve had where I could put my dinner in the middle of the floor, tell him that it isn’t his, and then run to the bathroom and have the dinner be untouched when I get back. These things aren’t binary and they aren’t even on a continuum. Part of being a good neighbor in the world is understanding and accommodating the foibles of those you share space with, when reasonable.

Like moving along when you walk past my fucking house with your dog.

[UTpowder]

My GSD and I walk the same 4 mile loop every morning. He doesn't walk me even though he's on a retractable leash. He knows who's boss and will often look at me for approval for something out of the ordinary. For the most part he has the freedom to stop and sniff and piss on almost any tree or bush he wants. We do pass a couple houses that have very nice plants/flowers and a simple "no" lets him know to move on. After passing by a few times he doesn't even slow.

He stops at every crosswalk and looks to me to give him the OK to cross. I did have him trained to sit at each one but gave that up as not necessary and as he's gotten older harder for him to do. I don't let him cut the corner of the crosswalk he has to get to the sidewalk before turning. Mostly OK and NO commands are all that's needed. If we pass other dogs I just have to say No and he will for the most part ignore the other dog especially if its a small yapper.

He's learned that he can't go on his walk until he shits in the back yard. So if he wants to go he knows what has to be done. If by chance he has to go while walking our route takes us between two small towns with a hay field in between. He gets to go there. Every couple months he ends up needing to go in somebodies yard. It gets picked up and carried home to put in my own garbage can. There's been a few times I've forgotten a bag and gone back as soon as I got home and picked it up. Many times the first thing he does when he gets back is take a crap in the back yard. In the same spot every time. Not that hard to train that with positive encouragement and treats.

He' loves the walk and is so excited every morning to go. My wife will walk him in the afternoon usually 2 miles or less. She is not as strict with him as I am and he knows it, but is still well behaved.

I've only had two dogs in my life they both have been very well behaved. They first was a yellow lab. He wasn't quite up to the GSD standards but still well trained. So maybe I don't have enough experience but to me its all about the douche bag owners that can't take the time to interact with and train their dogs, and be responsible for taking car of their natural messes and behaviors.. As most of you dog owners here "River" is part of the family and shares in everything just like any of our kids.

[Buzzworthy]

For sale sign two doors down, oh hell yeah!!!
Except the shitty neighbors are even shittier than we thought.

These people have put their house on the market, are actively showing the house to prospective buyers and they ARE NOT actually selling it. Turns out the lady’s mom is a real estate agent. And mom thought it would be a good idea to put the house up for market research. How the fuck is that even legal?

They’ve had a lot of foot traffic through the house over the last several weeks. The owner was out last night and I asked him flat out if he feels bad screwing over these people and wasting their time letting them look at your house that’s actually not for sale. The douchebag said nope, I’m helping my wife’s family and that’s all that matters. I left him with a wow, you’re a real piece of shit for just fucking people over like that wasting their time. Damn, wish you actually were moving. He didn’t bat an eye.

Fuck that momo trumper family and their stupid mom. Got my hopes up for nothing.

[XXX-er]

The shitty neighbors which I must have wrote about, the whole family needed training, especialy the shit head dog, the dog shit not cleaned up, the 25 ton earth mover coming thru the yard and creating a crime scene for 18 hrs have sold out !

Cool neighbors moved in buddy is young with a self confessed slightly red neck a sledder/ mtn biker/ BC split boarder/ videographer, they got 3 dogs and a cat but ever body is cool like the fonz

so there is always hope eh

[dan_pdx]

These people have put their house on the market, are actively showing the house to prospective buyers and they ARE NOT actually selling it. Turns out the lady’s mom is a real estate agent. And mom thought it would be a good idea to put the house up for market research. How the fuck is that even legal?

Got to be some agency that regulates real estate agents that you can complain to, no?

[AdironRider]

For sale sign two doors down, oh hell yeah!!!
Except the shitty neighbors are even shittier than we thought.

These people have put their house on the market, are actively showing the house to prospective buyers and they ARE NOT actually selling it. Turns out the lady’s mom is a real estate agent. And mom thought it would be a good idea to put the house up for market research. How the fuck is that even legal?

They’ve had a lot of foot traffic through the house over the last several weeks. The owner was out last night and I asked him flat out if he feels bad screwing over these people and wasting their time letting them look at your house that’s actually not for sale. The douchebag said nope, I’m helping my wife’s family and that’s all that matters. I left him with a wow, you’re a real piece of shit for just fucking people over like that wasting their time. Damn, wish you actually were moving. He didn’t bat an eye.

Fuck that momo trumper family and their stupid mom. Got my hopes up for nothing.

This is just the real estate version of "I know what I got".

[Hopeless Sinner]

For sale sign two doors down, oh hell yeah!!!
Except the shitty neighbors are even shittier than we thought.

These people have put their house on the market, are actively showing the house to prospective buyers and they ARE NOT actually selling it. Turns out the lady’s mom is a real estate agent. And mom thought it would be a good idea to put the house up for market research. How the fuck is that even legal?

They’ve had a lot of foot traffic through the house over the last several weeks. The owner was out last night and I asked him flat out if he feels bad screwing over these people and wasting their time letting them look at your house that’s actually not for sale. The douchebag said nope, I’m helping my wife’s family and that’s all that matters. I left him with a wow, you’re a real piece of shit for just fucking people over like that wasting their time. Damn, wish you actually were moving. He didn’t bat an eye.

Fuck that momo trumper family and their stupid mom. Got my hopes up for nothing.

I was a victim of that once where the dooshbag used his realtor friend to put his house on the market. I was the first to see it and put in a full price offer on Friday afternoon (with my wife out of town on business) only to find out Monday morning it was no longer for sale.

[Buzzworthy]

Sorry to hear that Hopeless.
Shitty people do shitty things.

I’ll be sure to let prospective buyers know the real deal from my front yard when I’m home.

[Hopeless Sinner]

Sorry to hear that Hopeless.
Shitty people do shitty things.

I’ll be sure to let prospective buyers know the real deal from my front yard when I’m home.

Yeah man! Perhaps a nice review of the realtor too.

[XXX-er]

For sale sign two doors down, oh hell yeah!!!
Except the shitty neighbors are even shittier than we thought.

These people have put their house on the market, are actively showing the house to prospective buyers and they ARE NOT actually selling it. Turns out the lady’s mom is a real estate agent. And mom thought it would be a good idea to put the house up for market research. How the fuck is that even legal?

They’ve had a lot of foot traffic through the house over the last several weeks. The owner was out last night and I asked him flat out if he feels bad screwing over these people and wasting their time letting them look at your house that’s actually not for sale. The douchebag said nope, I’m helping my wife’s family and that’s all that matters. I left him with a wow, you’re a real piece of shit for just fucking people over like that wasting their time. Damn, .

well people kind of do that anyway when they put a house on the market with a high price and don't accept any offers, they are maybe kinda almost interested in selling especaily if the market turns around & goes up

but to straight out say yeah we aren't really selling it we're just fucking with you is not that smart

and in a country with > 466 million firearms calling a neighbor a real pos over it probably isnt either but thats just my opinion man


I have said for years "do you wana sell that or are you just trying to find out what its worth " cuz those are gona be different prices