Neighbors...

[mfcf13]

Nobody wins, we used to have a trail system everyone enjoyed, now we have a rich cunt and an overgrown thicket with murderous junkies.

It seems like God just keeps sending you signs to move out of that town and come back West. Didn't you say your wife was a nurse? She could get a job anywhere. I'm sure you could find work quite easily as well. Yes there's forest fires and some towns have nutso housing prices. But you might want to look into a town like Ellensburg, WA or something. I'd literally give you $500 relocation bonus and I'm not a dentist. I don't even know you besides reading your posts.

[highangle]

Should have recorded the conversation. Seems like a friendly game warden may want to schedule a public encounter with the a-hole. And as a correctional officer, I'm not sure how hunting a bird during a statewide closure of said bird or taking of a protected bird under the MBTA would look on a background check. Probably a misdemeanor so may not be a big deal.

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/r.../waterfowl.pdf

Page 11



Seems like they might be talking about Steller's eiders here but there's also this:

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cf...withbirds.main

Steller's Jays fall under the MBTA.

Either way, looks like it's a protected bird.

Was his dad around when he was hunting?

Page 4



Page 10



Maybe the kid has his license?

Do they have a stamp or proof of HIP enrollment?

Did the kid shoot from a road?

Copper or lead pellets?

Are his BBs/pellets larger than .2?

Did he only shoot them in his yard? Yards of others? Did he have permission to hunt on private land?

Either way, it's probably technically poaching and you have photographic evidence. How far do you want to take it?

See edits, but I think it also violates our liberal Defense of Life and Property statutes, if I want or ever need to get chickenshit about it. Pretty sure I got my point across. I hadn't really explored the hunting laws/protected species angle to this thing though...And you're also exactly right about it's how much I want to invest in it...

Can't bring our little buddies back, but that's good to have in my pocket. And I do wish I had recorded it, and can't fix that either. And chances are I came on too strong and this father/son team will dwell on me rather than on not murdering helpless little animals like chicken-killin dogs.

[Conundrum]

Yeah, not saying I would pick a fight with a guy like that or rat on him potentially leading to a fight. If I cared a bunch I might mention to him that he should check the hunting regs though. A law enforcing guy like that might be into following them too.

[highangle]

Yeah, not saying I would pick a fight with a guy like that or rat on him potentially leading to a fight. If I cared a bunch I might mention to him that he should check the hunting regs though. A law enforcing guy like that might be into following them too.

Might be. His son didn't lie or exaggerate to him, nor did he expect his kid would, which is revealing. Like I said, I can't hate the guy for rocking up with a set of options that ranged from dickhead in a truck to full-on Tony Soprano curbstomp - I accused his kid of murder.

JFC what kind of asshole does that? Someone who witnessed a murder.



Edit: Does planting shame signs and posting images across social networks qualify as passive aggressive behavior?

[subtle plague]

But would you remove the road biker remains from the ditch?

[Vt-Freeheel]

Looks like the good energy highangle put into that bike thread has come home to roost.

[ill-advised strategy]

It seems like God just keeps sending you signs to move out of that town and come back West. Didn't you say your wife was a nurse? She could get a job anywhere. I'm sure you could find work quite easily as well. Yes there's forest fires and some towns have nutso housing prices. But you might want to look into a town like Ellensburg, WA or something. I'd literally give you $500 relocation bonus and I'm not a dentist. I don't even know you besides reading your posts.

If that was the situation we probably wouldn’t still be here.
My wife is a manager in a corporation, she also has mixed feelings about our town, but her tendency is to want to move to a large city with a lot of art and live music. If anything, she’s going to get moved by her company to someplace in random Wisconsin, and we’ll be in the same situation but with no shoreline/surf/skiing etc. Some Milwaukee suburb or something, that seems like the most likely thing.

I really thought since this company is a national company she might be able to kind of scan the whole company’s openings and move somewhere we want to live. In reality, it’s compartmentalized into regions, and you say in advance if and where you’re available to relocate.

It’s complicated. We have a dog, my wife and I both have gotten used to having a middle class living situation but in different ways. It’s been almost impossible to come up with a place that makes sense for both of us. And part of life at this point is that we don’t really have the ability to go check places out, so someplace like Ogden, or whatever, she’s not getting to see it in person.

The whole situation is hard to fix. It’s a lot of trading one problem for another.

[easyrdr]

IAS, I think we are dealing with the same type of people. I share a driveway with my neighbor, a very common thing in northern MI where driveways are often 1/4 mile or longer. We live on a lake, 90% of which are part time residents. Our property line goes down the dead nut center of the drive. He owns one side, I own the other. I have an easement to use his half, he has an easement to use my half. From the get go he is offended by my use, because I live here year round. He has put up cameras so he can watch me use it the 9 months he isn't here. If he doesn't like what he sees he emails me one line emails of "I see what you're doing." Yep you caught me, I'm cleaning up leaves. He took it a step to far and went after my wife one day verbally assaulting her. He told her if we want to continue to use the driveway we must call and get permission each time we wish to drive on it, in or out. I politely told him to go fuck a duck. I haven't spoken to the guys in 8 years. His summer's are spent staring at us and being mad. I just wish I had a cool neighbor.

[sirbumpsalot]

IAS, I think we are dealing with the same type of people. I share a driveway with my neighbor, a very common thing in northern MI where driveways are often 1/4 mile or longer. We live on a lake, 90% of which are part time residents. Our property line goes down the dead nut center of the drive. He owns one side, I own the other. I have an easement to use his half, he has an easement to use my half. From the get go he is offended by my use, because I live here year round. He has put up cameras so he can watch me use it the 9 months he isn't here. If he doesn't like what he sees he emails me one line emails of "I see what you're doing." Yep you caught me, I'm cleaning up leaves. He took it a step to far and went after my wife one day verbally assaulting her. He told her if we want to continue to use the driveway we must call and get permission each time we wish to drive on it, in or out. I politely told him to go fuck a duck. I haven't spoken to the guys in 8 years. His summer's are spent staring at us and being mad. I just wish I had a cool neighbor.

Remember the good ole days when we used to call it "hollering"? Now its "verbal assault"!

[mfcf13]

The whole situation is hard to fix. It’s a lot of trading one problem for another.

Well if she does get a transfer, at least it will be a fresh start. The cops and many of the people in your town just sound awful. Even suburbs have nature access (even if it's not shoreline) and if it's a bigger locale, you can blend in. Anonymity is great and you will love it after having to deal with the small town crap you've chronicled here.

[highangle]

Looks like the good energy highangle put into that bike thread has come home to roost.

You're a regular lord of cheap shot karma, aren't you? Be careful not to crash into a dumpster.

[liv2ski]

Our property line goes down the dead nut center of the drive. He owns one side, I own the other. I have an easement to use his half, he has an easement to use my half.

Huh, seems easy enough to get a copy of the easement and give it to him. If still a dick, tell him to FO whenever you see him.

[easyrdr]

Huh, seems easy enough to get a copy of the easement and give it to him. If still a dick, tell him to FO whenever you see him.

Did that, he lacks in the reading comprehension of things. His interpretation of the language in the easement is he has exclusive use of the driveway and I have to get his permission to use. I had an attorney read it over and he said bullshit. So I openly disobey his interpretation on the daily and he hasn't done shit about it for a decade which tells me he knows its all bullshit, just a dick being a dick for no reason other than to be a dick.

[easyrdr]

Remember the good ole days when we used to call it "hollering"? Now its "verbal assault"!

verbal assault just sounds way more better

[jono]

[El Chupacabra]

Huh, seems easy enough to get a copy of the easement and give it to him. If still a dick, tell him to FO whenever you see him.

I'd tape a copy of the easement to each camera.

[BFD]

Yeah, fuck him right in the ass, along with SRAM!

is the SRAM guy your neighbor?

[mfcf13]

I'd tape a copy of the easement to each camera.

I would go a step further and also tape a copy of a letter from a lawyer that forcefully clarifies the easement and spells out possible consequences if he continues his behavior. then you will really get to watch him steam.

[highangle]

If that was the situation we probably wouldn’t still be here.
My wife is a manager in a corporation, she also has mixed feelings about our town, but her tendency is to want to move to a large city with a lot of art and live music. If anything, she’s going to get moved by her company to someplace in random Wisconsin, and we’ll be in the same situation but with no shoreline/surf/skiing etc. Some Milwaukee suburb or something, that seems like the most likely thing.

I really thought since this company is a national company she might be able to kind of scan the whole company’s openings and move somewhere we want to live. In reality, it’s compartmentalized into regions, and you say in advance if and where you’re available to relocate.

It’s complicated. We have a dog, my wife and I both have gotten used to having a middle class living situation but in different ways. It’s been almost impossible to come up with a place that makes sense for both of us. And part of life at this point is that we don’t really have the ability to go check places out, so someplace like Ogden, or whatever, she’s not getting to see it in person.

The whole situation is hard to fix. It’s a lot of trading one problem for another.

A portable job, one with a future in this Bukowskiesque timeline, is the answer to all your problems.
Downside for you is that requires a mustard seed of entrepreneurship, or something like a writing gig, which is what we all know you want to do anyway.

[XXX-er]

the thing to do is bring it^^ all TO your town which I think has happend to some extent here

[XXX-er]

the new neighbor buys a Lab puppy which was really cute until it got large at which point it needs 1.5hrs of exercise a day but the owner is obese

they would put it out in a pen and it would bark till they eventualy took it out of the pen,

also it shit all over the pen they don't clean it up and it eventualy stinks

eventualy i lost my shit

they seem to have listened cuz dog is not left to bark and they are more or less cleaning up the shit

I'm actualy quite suprised, it must have been an eloquent rant or something

rong dog for these people, they should have got a lap dog

[schindlerpiste]

Sounds like a good neighbor. Everyone makes mistakes, especially with pets. The important thing is they rectified the situation. I live in a fairly new neighborhood where there are maybe 20 homes. Fences are not allowed. My "next door" neighbor (who is approximately 200 yards from my house) has this golden retriever that loves my yard. Everyday their dog visits my yard, chews my dogs' bones, urinates on my grass and plays with whatever toys are left out. The first time it happened my pup was 10 weeks old and didn't have all her shots (Parvo). My other dog is a poorly adapted rescue who doesn't like other dogs and barks profusely every time the golden visits. I rang the neighbor's doorbell and very politely asked them to control their animal and not let him visit my yard. .....Lip service but no relief. The second time, I did the same thing. The dog has visited the past 5 days and nights. My wife, who, believe it or not, is not nearly polite as me leashed the dog, walked it home and sternly admonished the neighbor. Today I contacted the HOA. Next, I'm thinking a BB gun in the ass greeting.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Next, I'm thinking a BB gun in the ass greeting.

Assuming you are talking about the neighbor, high five. If you are talking about the dog, you are an asshole.

[jono]

Yeah, don't shoot the dog, feed it a can of beans and take it home.

[schindlerpiste]

I don't own a BB gun. placed to emphasize frustration. You are right. It is impossible to blame the dog. However, more than a few dogs in UT are shot with more than BBs every year for trespassing.