WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS and ASSORTED DRIVAL 20-21

[raisingarizona13]

no, they don't



maybe so for portal, but the distinction is that the exposure on both of those is obvious and the terrain referenced in this case appears relatively benign such that it lures unexpecting riders into a very dangerous situation.

People don't die every year on Portal either.

[gimpy]

I’m just here for more dosed n solo tfw stories.....good shit++++
I guess I’m just a callous fuck.........but keep it open and let the cards fall as they are played
If people stop dying........everyone will want to do it
.........runs away and ducks

[telefreewasatch]

nah, I got a Dyno Nobel hookup.

Along with a can of white spray paint to cover your tracks, er powder burn...

[telefreewasatch]

BTW, I remember Ned Randolph and Jimmie with his homemade whippet for skiing lines no one had thought of. I think Ned skied tele?

Ned only skied on nordic gear. Phenomenal athlete. Asolo extreme leather boots and Karhu extreme skis. Won the North American telemark championships two years running.
When we skied the Pfeiff NW couloir 1st time, I ascended the line, he went up Airplane Peak and over. I chopped steps in the concave ice for tip and tail in the gut on the descent with my ice axe / ski pole; it was 4 feet long. When he came out of the ice I asked him to make a turn for the camera.
Only time I heard Ned say "I don't know, I'm scared." He made one...
We stood below it and ignorantly figured it might never get skied by anyone else but us; nordic gear was so shitty then and alpine touring gear was worse.
I was on some Rossi ST 650s with Silveretta beartrap bindings and San Marco mountaineering boots. 6 weeks to the day of healing up from a compression fracture in my lower back. 1st run in that gear and with my healed back...
Trade route now with good gear and a rappel, eh?

[mar123]

Along with a can of white spray paint to cover your tracks, er powder burn...

Im just sayin the Wasatch needs a Dynamite Availability Program(DAP) that would have dispensers placed at all TH's and backcountry gates stocked with complementary sticks of dynamite

[Boissal]

Trade route now with good gear and a rappel, eh?

"Trade route".
Still scary as shit with all the fancy gear and the knowledge that it goes. Still gets people in huge amounts of trouble. I've booted out of it in the past after getting too optimistic and finding the steep section after the dog leg in WI2 conditions. I've never charged into it with 100% confidence. And I've never made those last 2 or 3 turns right above the rap, always make some excuse and sideslip. Some people in the range may treat it as a walk in the park but I think they're part of a very small minority...

All of this to say that 1) you're even more badass than I suspected and 2) why isn't there already a Wasatch history thread to be a repository of such adventures?? Some of the best reading I've done online was the Wasatch history thread on UtahClimbers.com: nothing but stories from the pioneers of choss munching in LCC. Made me appreciate the "trade routes" much more...

Im just sayin the Wasatch needs a Dynamite Availability Program(DAP) that would have dispensers placed at all TH's and backcountry gates stocked with complementary sticks of dynamite

You're onto something here. Imagine how easy it would be to convince people that they shouldn't follow you to your secret stashes if you had explosives with you... And the possibilities to solve parking and road congestion issues are, well, mind blowing

[telefreewasatch]

Why isn't there already a Wasatch history thread to be a repository of such adventures?? Some of the best reading I've done online was the Wasatch history thread on UtahClimbers.com: nothing but stories from the pioneers of choss munching in LCC. Made me appreciate the "trade routes" much more...

Cause if Andy didn't do it and rename it, did it really get done?

[raisingarizona13]

Im just sayin the Wasatch needs a Dynamite Availability Program(DAP) that would have dispensers placed at all TH's and backcountry gates stocked with complementary sticks of dynamite

The al qaeda supports this program idea.

[snowaddict91]

The al qaeda supports this program idea.

Alta qaeda

I second the Wasatch history thread. I love reading that kind of stuff.

[Skidog]

Cause if Andy didn't do it and name it, did it really get done?

Bwahahahaha...awesome man..

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[schindlerpiste]

Good UAC chat on the gram right now

[wasatch_carpetbagger]

Link? I couldnt find the zoom link powder bouy was taking about...

[wasatch_carpetbagger]

Link? I couldnt find the zoom link powder bouy was taking about...

nvm found it: https://www.instagram.com/skratchlabs/live/?hl=en

[Canada1]

this is a tough appeal you are trying to make considering that you are asking a private landowner in northern utah, a national park in southwest utah, and a forest service & blm unit in southeast utah to all collaborate on managing their different lands in the same manner.

The point I am trying to make is sarcastic, yet related to a serious issue. It is that we as a state have a lot of activities we actively participate in and advance that have high risk. I narcisstically do not want to see these gates closed. I would have no problem with a check for equipment, but believe any of these proposed solutions will not solve the problem.

[deeds]

Final report out form the UAC: https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanche/58594

[gimpy]

Awe fuck that report is sobering......some serious armchair quarterbacking about to commence about the partners response......skins???....when he was above victim....wtf?
+++ vibes to the victim and his tribe

[mall walker]

report says he didn’t know if he was above the victim. (he descended part way before the search). tough call, but faster to descend on skins than climb without.

feel for all involved

[muted]

Awe fuck that report is sobering......some serious armchair quarterbacking about to commence about the partners response......skins???....when he was above victim....wtf?
+++ vibes to the victim and his tribe

No, no and no. The victim takes all blame here. He killed himself making an extremely poor choice which his partner disagreed with. Now his partner has to live with the trauma of CPR, digging out, being too exhausted, all alone to do what he can in a high stress environment, and all you can say is 'derp, skins???'

[gimpy]

Listen man I’m not placing any blame on the partner......agreed it was the victims decision to ski that line when his partner obviously was not feeling it and owns this thing 100% and I feel for the partners scar he will carry for life......... but isn’t the play to ski downhill with transceiver searching first if you’re above the incident? Sorry if it hurts your feelers but incidents like this are learning experiences for all......and sorry if it’s just too soon

[BobMc]

Every year’s thread needs a Roj.

[HammySlapwagons]

I'd imagine panic/shock played a big factor into influencing the partner's search decisions. From the article looks like he didn't even find him with the beacon. He just saw a boot sticking up out of the snow.

[muted]

Listen man I’m not placing any blame on the partner......agreed it was the victims decision to ski that line when his partner obviously was not feeling it and owns this thing 100% and I feel for the partners scar he will carry for life......... but isn’t the play to ski downhill with transceiver searching first if you’re above the incident? Sorry if it hurts your feelers but incidents like this are learning experiences for all......and sorry if it’s just too soon

Well, first please fuck off with the 'not placing any blame' passive-aggressive bullshit. And if you can't understand the report explaining why he did what he did, that you supposedly read, sorry. I don't want to hurt your feelers either bud, but fuck off dipshit.

"Additional details about the sequence of events were provided by the victim's partner, who performed a heroic rescue by himself. Unfortunately, this avalanche was fatal, but the partner gave the victim the best chance of living that few people could have matched."

[Lone Star]

but isn’t the play to ski downhill with transceiver searching first if you’re above the incident?

The partner said it was difficult to know if the victim was uphill or downhill from where he started his search.

the partner gave the victim the best chance of living that few people could have matched.

poor form, best to log off til tomorrow.

[snowaddict91]

but isn’t the play to ski downhill with transceiver searching first if you’re above the incident?

Yes, but he was most likely concerned with all the hangfire on a slope that he just told his partner he didn't want to drop into, them he watched his partner not even take one turn and most of the slope ripped. Not saying I would or would not have put skins on, but he was trying to save his own ass by not getting caught in the hangfire. Rule #1 of scene safety is rescuer safety.

An important take away here is the obvious- if someone in the group doesn't want to ski a slope, no one should. They likely didn't take into account the fact that if it would avalanche, the rescuer is now forced with exposure to a situation he didn't want to be in in the first place.

Not trying to come off as an armchair QB and decide right vs wrong, but that's my two cents.

[gimpy]

.......k my bad...... Tried to have a discussion n failed so I’ll just go away.....carry on