WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS and ASSORTED DRIVAL 20-21

[jtran10]

when is alta marketing going to hire lone star?

[Duffman]

screengrabbed from beatermeter's insta. methinks snowbird. someone likely got in trouble for this.
the data it doesnt show is how many of these ikon/mtc passholders were formerly snowbird pass holders but live in salt lake valley and went with a different pass product.

That's exactly 1/3 of the people thru the gates having an IKON or Mtn Collective, on average, for the month of February.

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Very interesting data, but doesn't it likely support the view, particularly this year with way way less out of state travel than normal, that a sizable if not majority of IKON pass skiiers are likely SLC locals who either grabbed an IKON instead of a Bird pass or probably even more who used to grab local discount tickets or walk up day tickets and got an IKON instead?

[MitchPee]

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It's crazy how all of these out of town tourist beaters with Ikon passes are willing to travel all the way out here and then not ski just because conditions aren't the best. Some heretics might even suggest that a strong correlation between parking/lines and conditions would indicate that locals are the real problem.

Of course, I am biased, because I am a tourist from Texas! And I figured if I came all the way out here I might as well try to go skiing today.

Damn I must have missed the post requesting passive judgement from someone in a state where they love Californians telling them how they should operate?

[Trefin]

Anecdotally, i remember the powder weekends walking to the lift on avg it was 1/4 plates were out of state or rentals.

Im fairly certain that the cottonwoods ikon redemption rate is quite a bit higher than other resorts (i'm guessing double). I'm just hoping last weekend was a preview of what spring skiing will be like in LCC the rest of the year, small lines and good vibes all around.

[ski_the_fraulein]

On Powder days and/or holiday weekends, Wildcat lot is still 1/4+ out of state, if not more...


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[Lone Star]

Damn I must have missed the post requesting passive judgement from someone in a state where they love Californians telling them how they should operate?

almost got me, i owe you a beer on the patio tonight, if you dont have too long a drive ahead of you.

when is alta marketing going to hire lone star?

they already have, indirectly. we appreciate ASL Marketing's heavy presence during Alta Bomb Hour and the $$$ trickles down to all

[detrusor]

Very interesting data, but doesn't it likely support the view, particularly this year with way way less out of state travel than normal, that a sizable if not majority of IKON pass skiiers are likely SLC locals who either grabbed an IKON instead of a Bird pass or probably even more who used to grab local discount tickets or walk up day tickets and got an IKON instead?

Nearly everyone I talk to at the bird is from out of state. Traveled here because we are “open” compared to a lot of other places. All say things like “I have an ikon pass, best thing that ever happened!”

On ikon blackout powder day it’s basically walk on, flanking weekends an hour wait. So, yeah, you’re totally right.


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[Lone Star]

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Very interesting data, but doesn't it likely support the view, particularly this year with way way less out of state travel than normal, that a sizable if not majority of IKON pass skiiers are likely SLC locals who either grabbed an IKON instead of a Bird pass or probably even more who used to grab local discount tickets or walk up day tickets and got an IKON instead?

WOW. This is an awesome spreadsheet. Slightly off-topic but amazing to see that President's weekend at the Bird this year had less than half the skiers as similar resorts in CO were experiencing during that time 15 years ago!

Duffman, this is my hypothesis as well. I am open to the idea that mediocre skiing out of town strangers can just suddenly find great untracked lines in obscure places (that took my admittedly very slow and unintuitive dumb ass many seasons to find) on big days but it never seems to be the stereotypical "Ikon Beater" on the hike back to the lift in my experience.

[EWG]

On Powder days and/or holiday weekends, Wildcat lot is still 1/4+ out of state, if not more...


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Keep in mind there are plenty of people with out of state plates living in Utah. College students for example.

[jtran10]

if the license plate is new england: lives here
if the license plate is CO, CA, WA, OR, MT: visitor

that's how I play the game

[Lone Star]

if the license plate is new england: lives here
if the license plate is CO, CA, WA, OR, MT: lives here and raft guides during the summer

fify.....

[NBABUCKS1]

I think a decent amount of those numbers are local ikon skiers redeeming their days but mostly ski solitude.

[brutah]

I saw a license plate from Hawaii one time and that freaked me out. I wonder how they drove that car across the Pacific Ocean. Did anyone ever think about that?! Buy a car like that and you could really take advantage of the ikon pass......





The skiing is still pretty good and I got to "getoutside" with the man himself today. Expected a dusting on crust and got a dusting on a spongey crust which was a nice surprise. Speaking of sponges, ya'll ever had sponge cake that shit is delicious! Almost as good as skiing 5" on a spongy crust, amiright?

[ski_the_fraulein]

Keep in mind there are plenty of people with out of state plates living in Utah. College students for example.

True - and I was one of those students back in the ‘80s, but funny, unless I’m up in PC, sure don’t see very many out of state plates around the valley during the week. They sure come out of the crooks and crannies when the snow falls tho!

[Lone Star]

I saw a license plate from Hawaii one time and that freaked me out. I wonder how they drove that car across the Pacific Ocean. Did anyone ever think about that?! Buy a car like that and you could really take advantage of the ikon pass......



The skiing is still pretty good and I got to "getoutside" with the man himself today. Expected a dusting on crust and got a dusting on a spongey crust which was a nice surprise. Speaking of sponges, ya'll ever had sponge cake that shit is delicious! Almost as good as skiing 5" on a spongy crust, amiright?

I hear it's the HI folk driving Trans-Pacific on January weekends that are really ruining the Ja-Pow scene.

Very tasty. Sweet but not unbearably so.

[altacoup]

HI plate usually means military. They get free transport from the islands.


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[getoutside]

Speaking of sponges, ya'll ever had sponge cake that shit is delicious! Almost as good as skiing 5" on a spongy crust, amiright?

^^ indeed it is, and good times skiing yesterday.

[jtran10]

Dust on sponge was indeed better than expected

[Duffman]

For the Alta/Bird crew, does anyone have an instructor at either that they would recommend for a private for a 7 and a half year old boy, adv beginner level? My son really wants to get after it now and always wants to do the "bear trails" (lower angle trees) and has become pretty confident on blue trails, but wont listen to Dad about technique and spends too much time in a wedge and / or with too much weight and wrong edge angles on the inside ski. Want to find someone fun for him to work on this with. Any recs would be appreciated, either here or PM

[criscam]

For the Alta/Bird crew, does anyone have an instructor at either that they would recommend for a private for a 7 and a half year old boy, adv beginner level? My son really wants to get after it now and always wants to do the "bear trails" (lower angle trees) and has become pretty confident on blue trails, but wont listen to Dad about technique and spends too much time in a wedge and / or with too much weight and wrong edge angles on the inside ski. Want to find someone fun for him to work on this with. Any recs would be appreciated, either here or PM

Last year my then 9 yo was in Alta camp w an instructor named Ben (bigger guy w red beard...not sure of last name). He liked him and his skiing def improved. Not sure if still there or does privates.

[brutah]

Dust on sponge was indeed better than expected

Hell ya, let's all eat cake!

[efbride]

I saw a license plate from Hawaii one time and that freaked me out. I wonder how they drove that car across the Pacific Ocean. Did anyone ever think about that?! Buy a car like that and you could really take advantage of the ikon pass......





The skiing is still pretty good and I got to "getoutside" with the man himself today. Expected a dusting on crust and got a dusting on a spongey crust which was a nice surprise. Speaking of sponges, ya'll ever had sponge cake that shit is delicious! Almost as good as skiing 5" on a spongy crust, amiright?

I make cake for a living. Sponge, angel, pound. Gettin ready for a week in big and a week in little. I would dig some 5” on spongy, crust or not. Let’s all eat cake.

[altacoup]

For the Alta/Bird crew, does anyone have an instructor at either that they would recommend for a private for a 7 and a half year old boy, adv beginner level? My son really wants to get after it now and always wants to do the "bear trails" (lower angle trees) and has become pretty confident on blue trails, but wont listen to Dad about technique and spends too much time in a wedge and / or with too much weight and wrong edge angles on the inside ski. Want to find someone fun for him to work on this with. Any recs would be appreciated, either here or PM

Ask for Rion. Andrew pollard of the FWT has told me many times that Rion was his favorite instructor as a kid.

[whyturn]

Anybody got thoughts on eagle point? Been to brianhead but not eagle. Curious as they got some snow.


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[jtran10]

Deer valley today. They sure have some tight tree skiing with bad aspects there [emoji28]

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