La sportiva skorpius

[grinch]

I should try the tour wrap. So far I've been thinking the overlap on top of the instep wouldn't be any better than a tongue, but maybe the LV. Also not sure about the bulk of the wrap cuff. Are you using wraps in the Skorpius?

No i dont have scorpius'. I used them just in the vulcans and now hoji's. Maybe others can compare the difference, its been a while since i swore off tongues in favor of wraps. i think the tongue overlap thickness exceeds the wrap overlap volume.. the stock vulcan tongue liners were paper thin so no problems on the instep so i never gave a second thought to an intuition tour tongue mv. Day one i ended up cutting the tongue out near the top of the illiciluet glacier. Major pain. From on top of the toes right thru to the instep

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[ThisAintCheckerz]

Anyone have some ideas for squeezing out a little more instep room? It's almost OK with the lower buckle half closed but eventually toes go numb. I'll try a bit thinner footbed but anything else?


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^^ Bumping this question ^^

Are these shells able to be punched? My left foot is happy, but my instep on right foot is getting squeezed and my toes go cold quickly. Is there a method for getting a bit of space over instep area?

[obnomad]

Skorpius shells punch fairly well. My bootfitter was able to heat up the instep and bend it out just a little. Don't really have anymore than that, but if you are in BC then Joel at Ski uphill Squamish is great.

[dub_xion]

Just a data point on these (1st gen). Had them out for some uphill fitness laps on Bachelor in late December in springlike mixed conditions on Katana VW (112 waist, full rocker, 1800g), 177cm and Vario.2. Hardpack, chunder, soft sections of windrift. Held their own pretty well, keeping a good edge with controlled turns, but started to find their limit when the speed and aggressiveness picked up. Things didn’t fall apart on them, figuratively speaking, just seeing where they began to lose their composure and a beefier boot would be in order; not as powerful as a Vulcan w/o tongue with those skis.

[Benneke10]

I have a pair of Skorpius with a lot of use, maybe 800k feet of skinning, and the cuff pivots on one of the boots are starting to not work as well. Is there any way to service them?

[Bamski]

Is it even worth considering a skorp if I’m working with a high instep? I’m researching a second boot to complement my beef boot.

[auvgeek]

Is it even worth considering a skorp if I’m working with a high instep? I’m researching a second boot to complement my beef boot.

I don’t think the instep is crazy low on the gen 1 and supposedly the CRII has a slightly higher instep, but who knows if it’ll be enough for you.

I would wait for the Dynafit Ridge Pro, personally.

[fleaches]

Is it even worth considering a skorp if I’m working with a high instep? I’m researching a second boot to complement my beef boot.

Gen1 was definitely pretty low, I have just barely been able to make it work with a med-high instep. Again Gen2 is supposed to be better but I've never worn one.

Might also check out the 0g peak. Yeah it's a different weight class but I think rom and stiffness wise it's more similar to the skorpius. Has sort of the opposite fit out of the box (wider toes, taller instep).

That new dynafit boot is intriguing.

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[abcdethan]

Its not the newest, hottest boot, but If you have a medium last foot with a high instep, the updated Backland Carbon with the buckle would be a good candidate. I had the boa version but the high instep didn't work for me and the boa didn't help locking it down. Otherwise, it was very comfy, and drove a 95 waisted ski well enough. I replaced it with the Salomon MTN boot which is only better because the fit is great for my foot shape.

[Bamski]

Its not the newest, hottest boot, but If you have a medium last foot with a high instep, the updated Backland Carbon with the buckle would be a good candidate. I had the boa version but the high instep didn't work for me and the boa didn't help locking it down. Otherwise, it was very comfy, and drove a 95 waisted ski well enough. I replaced it with the Salomon MTN boot which is only better because the fit is great for my foot shape.

Backland or Backland XTD? The XTD seems to be pretty damn accommodating for my foot - just not sure how well it’ll ski.

[abcdethan]

Backland or Backland XTD? The XTD seems to be pretty damn accommodating for my foot - just not sure how well it’ll ski.

Backland Carbon, if your beef boot is about 1500-1600 grams then the Backland Carbon would be 1100g to 1200 grams.


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[TG]

how is the quality/performance of the stock liner?
I see some cheap ones online and I’m wondering if it would be a decent replacement liner for a Scarpa F1LT or XT

[dub_xion]

I've been alright in the stock liners with a 1.5-finger shell fit in the V1 Skorp. I think they are thinner in general than the F1-series, especially probably the XT. I'd say if you have a performance touring fit, they'd be good match, but if you need to fill space, I'd go with something else. I have seen reviews where the reviewer thought the liners were a bit on the wimpy side.

[Backward_Banana]

Has anyone else experienced what I'd call the "flat heel" in the fit? Overall the Skorpius fits my foot really well, except that it feels like my heel is driven up against a 90 degree wall, instead of inside a cup. Wondering if this sort of thing could be dealt with with some liner additions/tape, or if it's a shell thing? It seems like J-bars and the like would help with ankle retention, but what it feels like is there just isn't enough heel room.

Overall I've been moderately happy with the boot. Walks great, skis pretty well. The stance has always felt a bit off to me, even playing around with the spoilers, ramp on bindings, etc. Somehow it feels upright, but also forward, which I think is maybe just due to how much flex you can get out of it. I didn't think I was particularly sensitive to this kind of stuff, skiied the Spectres for a number of years which were a pretty moderately performing boot, but I'm always missing something when I ski this boot. Probably I've just gotten too used to my other setup, ZGTP w/ Tour Wraps. I'm fairly committed to making this type of boot work, though, since it would be nice to have a really good walking boot that skis alright.

[frorider]

Is it even worth considering a skorp if I’m working with a high instep? I’m researching a second boot to complement my beef boot.

Definitely consider skorpius II. My high instep is what makes a lot of boots impossible to even get on, incl skorp I. Version II fits like
a dream, zero mods.

[Johnny Utah]

First full week on the skorpius II as a replacement for my beloved tlt6p. Skiing them with a completely thrashed, but perfectly fitting MV pro tour liner (molded and abused with the tlt6). Added a small shim under the heel and moved the spoiler down, getting me pretty close to matching the ramp and lean angles of the tlt6. Ditched the top power strap for less transition fiddle. Stock liner was thinner and softer than my clapped pro tour, didn’t try.

For fit, these are just a hair longer than the tlt and very similar shape throughout the forefoot and toe box. (Also PSA: the exact matching BSLs still required a touch of binding adjustment). A true 1-finger shell fit for both. Heel pocket feels similar. I’m lacking a tiny amount of ankle lock and, unless I completely crank the boa, I get a small bit of heel lift. I expect this will resolve with a new liner. Having done zero shell work, the only discomfort is from the liner lace loop stitching right at the medial ankle bone which rubs the shell in a truly evil manner… this is intermittent and depending on stride length.

A few resort groomer laps on zero g 85s: the ski was more limiting than the boot. Slightly stiffer than the tlt6p (not a huge gain) but more progressive. Noticeably more composed (better “suspension” in blister speak) through firm snow, ice and bumps. i suspect this will be a solid spring setup for big objectives with steeps lines and variable snow.

I then got about 25k vert over the last week, touring soft snow on Ravens: very good pairing. The skorp was more responsive and supportive than the tlt, which I noticed when I found myself in the back seat, or when dust gave way to crust and avy debris. Or when slithering trees in a historically low snowpack.

Repeating what others have said, they walk as well as the tlt and arguably ski better. Strange these don’t get more attention.

Complaints? The boa is sus and an odd update from skorp 1. Feels fragile, doesn’t pull the ankle back, and it’s easy to over-tighten for uphill, then requiring a restart. (Ive got decent at eyeballing the moment when the cable starts to engage as my point of reference, but it’s one more thing to think about). I might try to replace the boa with hoji or Vulcan hardware. Has anyone done this?

Regarding the Trab-collab toe fittings: meh. Does make it possible to hook one pin and roll onto the other… unless the snow is soft. With trab toes I still prefer to put the ski on/off with my opposite hand, foot in the air, knee to chest. And maybe too small a sample, but I think they have worse retention on the ski track. I never lock my trab toes, and have never(?) lost a ski on the skin track with dynafit fittings. Pulled the skorpius out of the trab toes a few times already…

Also, black shells seem dumb for light boots. (And the skorpius is as ugly as they come). They cook in the sun and I’d guess ski notably softer than an alternative. Is this myth or fact? IMO the skorp is a different boot — for the better — in cold temps.

Would love the opportunity to compare these to the new Ridge, but my wallet disapproves.


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[NWFlow]

Well I've come full circle since starting this thread and have developed another crack in the tongues of my V1s which might signal the end of their usable life span. Super happy with them after getting the fit dialed. Is the obvious solution to just get the V2?

[riff]

I’ve got V1 27’s for sale in great shape with Pro Tours if that’s your size


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[NWFlow]

Oh as if I needed another existential crisis in my life. let me lose sleep tonight debating if I should size up to a 28 or not and send you a pm. I'm in Europe, but can sort out shipping to the US.

[Dan816]

Just picked up the v2's and tried putting them into my dynafit speed turns. It was really difficult to get them in and I haven't been able to get them out. The lever on the toe of the binding hits the underside of the boot before the pins release. Is it possible that they are not compatible!?

[Dan816]

Ok, got em out, but it felt like I was putting in way to much effort. Anything I need to know for these boot fittings + dynafit bindings? All of my previous boots have been dynafit, so I never had to think about stepping in, it just worked. Also, any ideas for using a leash when brakeless? I haven't found a good spot to attach to the boot. Maybe it's time to ditch the leash but I want to make sure I don't have any pre-release issues first since it's a new boot.

[riff]

I don’t know about the toe issue, but i clip the leash to the wire bail of the cuff buckle. Short leashes may need a loop of cord to extend them; clipping there has the added benefit of taking your ankle out of the line of fire if the ski gets yanked on, specifically in uphill mode.


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[Dan816]

Anyone paired the skorpius with a tecton? Fritschi does not list it as compatible, but La Sportiva says the boot is kingpin ready, so made me wonder.

[wantriot]

Anyone paired the skorpius with a tecton? Fritschi does not list it as compatible, but La Sportiva says the boot is kingpin ready, so made me wonder.

I ski my La SportivA Scorpius with tecton mounted to my LINE Pescado and love the setup! I can't really see where the problems with surface, I certainly never experienced anything other than perfect interface.

[frorider]

I’ve occasionally skied my Skorpius IIs with Tectons, works perfectly. No idea why they wouldn’t?

BTW the boa on the Skorp II is one of the reasons I bought it. On my 28.5s it hold my foot down well enough that even with zero mods to the liner (or thermo molding) I have zero blisters.

I was surprised to see the comment about the Skorp II being ‘overlooked’. IME the large selection AT boot shops all seem to consider it a benchmark boot.