coffee for mags - a coffee roasting trip report (& free mag coffee)

[sb]

Have to see what all this wush wush is about.

I have tried Ethiopian beans before and they were ok.

[tgapp]

Have to see what all this wush wush is about.

I have tried Ethiopian beans before and they were ok.

Wush is like a weird mashup of fruit loops and coffee.

this sums it up pretty well:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CowvB...on_share_sheet

If you want send me your address and I'll mail you some. I still owe coffee to a few mags right now



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[sb]

I got sum on order so maybe later.

Roasted the last of the organic Peru beans i got with the SR800 this morning. Also finished up roasting the last of the decaf i had.

Starting to get this new roaster dialed in. Doing a log seems to help in this.

I may go back to filtered pour over for a bit.

[sb]

Hope this shit is as good as yall have made it out to be.

One thing i have been doing is weighing my ground beans and have found my grinder inconsistent. Also back to using a paper filter as opposed to the SS filter.

[sb]

First tasting this morning. Not bad. Light - medium roast not by me.

Fruity, made me feel like i was quaffing a neipa.

I will not be buying it on the regular as its pricey at $24 per pound.

[tgapp]

First tasting this morning. Not bad. Light - medium roast not by me.

Fruity, made me feel like i was quaffing a neipa.

I will not be buying it on the regular as its pricey at $24 per pound.

There's a lot of different wush wush out there so it's hard to know what yours is like. On one end of the spectrum it's like a solid natural Ethiopian. On the other it's like someone crushed up smarties and brewed them in your coffee.

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[MontuckyFried]

Finally ponied up (only like $30) for one of those fancy WDT tools. One of the models with the acupuncture needles and a slick storage base. While my trusty old straightened out paper clip actually worked just fine for the most part, the WDT tool is definitely making the process a bit easier, quicker, and perfectly consistent. A worthy tool for my coffee gear quiver.

This is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5RVR9X5

Next thing I want is a more accurate kitchen scale. Mine's a piece of crap but it (mostly) does the trick for now, but it's too inconsistent to trust.

[californiagrown]

First tasting this morning. Not bad. Light - medium roast not by me.

Fruity, made me feel like i was quaffing a neipa.

I will not be buying it on the regular as its pricey at $24 per pound.

I like mixing it up with coffee. Keeps things interesting. The wushwush is a pretty out there flavor profile that I find tasty and super interesting, but I wouldn't buy it more than every so often because the flavor is so "out there".

A big part of my enjoyment of coffee is the process of trying new and different coffees and dialing in the brew recipe and noting the differences from last week's coffee. Variety is the spice of life, etc.

I still can't brew decent darker roasts well, but I'm now leaning towards just not liking darker roasts in general instead of just shi5ty brewing.

[sb]

Totally agree with that.

I am happy to try it and i will blend it with some Costa Rican beans and maybe a couple others.

I also like using different methods of brewing.

[ntblanks]

Just took the plunge and started diy roasting with a cheap air popper. A short TR from today's roast.

Ran a first batch a few days ago: followed the specs and came out with a good but tiny batch. (~85g in/71g out). I use 28g a day so this wasn't going to get me three days.

Second batch I got greedy and fed 110g into the basket. With a gentle push of a wood spoon the beans started swirling and all looked good. Soon green turned to yellow and yellow to light brown as the chaff blew out of the lid. First crack was just about to start in earnest and all looked good. Then things went south. The unit suddenly shut down. No warning.

Ack!

I got the beans out and cooled as fast as I could. They were all over the place, roast-wise. No way I could use them. I let them cool and put away my setup: popper, cookie sheet, bowl w damp paper towels, colanders, and a box fan wedged in the kitchen window.

I hate to waste stuff and was kinda pissed. So I sat and thought: what if I popped them back in for a few minutes? What's the worst that can happen?

So, F it: Once the popper had cooled down I set everything back up and dropped half the batch back in the popper.

No surprise: the behavior was different: I heard a few first cracks but zero second cracks. Pulled it, cooled, and in went the remainder. I think I went 3:30 or so with each half of the second run. Pulled by vision since time and crack weren't useful.

Got the second half cooling and put away the kit.

Tossed a few but otherwise I was surprised by the color uniformity. City+ give or take.

To my surprise, they smell fantastic.

How will they taste? I'll find out tomorrow. But I learned a few things today and anticipate less drama next roast. I'll try 95-98g and maybe blow a small fan at the base of the unit for added cooling.

[tgapp]

nice man! roasting is a fun journey. and remember there are no mistakes, only happy accidents.

re-roasting coffee is universally perceived as impossible and tantamount to ruining the coffee, since after the beans cool down, reintroducing heat will effectively make the outside of the bean cook much faster than the inside, thus 'baking' the coffee. the resulting coffee, while it may smell good, will be hollow and extremely lacking in sweetness. wet cardboard and newspaper are the most common tasting notes for baked coffee.

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[neufox47]

If anyone wants a used Gene Cafe roaster let me know. $100 plus shipping, or pickup near Roseville, CA.


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[sb]

Finally found a good blend i like and also the amount dialed in. Was trying to do the recommended ratio on the low side but found even that was a bit much for my tastes. Dropped it some moar and i really like it now.

[motopsycha]

If anyone wants a used Gene Cafe roaster let me know. $100 plus shipping, or pickup near Roseville, CA.


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I’d be interested. Sent a PM


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[tgapp]

Just cupped Captain's Keffa Wush Wush limited O2 coffee for the first time, 4 days off roast. I'm wildly disappointed. Tastes oxidized and bland. I'm going to give this a few more days but this might be the biggest disappointment I've experienced in green coffee ever.

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[jackattack]

Yikes

[ntblanks]

Who here's roasting a proper (true origins) Mocca Java blend?

Where do you source your beans and what's your preferred ratio?

[californiagrown]

Just cupped Captain's Keffa Wush Wush limited O2 coffee for the first time, 4 days off roast. I'm wildly disappointed. Tastes oxidized and bland. I'm going to give this a few more days but this might be the biggest disappointment I've experienced in green coffee ever.

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I dont think its you. The garage roaster ive been buying from (upthread) told me to keep an eye an eye out for some anaerobic Wushwush he was super excited about and releasing soon... and it still hasnt happened after about a month. He mostly uses Captain's as well, so maybe he got the same bunk beans you did?

[neufox47]

Just cupped Captain's Keffa Wush Wush limited O2 coffee for the first time, 4 days off roast. I'm wildly disappointed. Tastes oxidized and bland. I'm going to give this a few more days but this might be the biggest disappointment I've experienced in green coffee ever.

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I wouldn’t say it is a total wash but I have been disappointed in the results too. The best roast I’ve had has been a super light one. Pulled 60 seconds after 1cs.

[tgapp]

Who here's roasting a proper (true origins) Mocca Java blend?

Where do you source your beans and what's your preferred ratio?

Oh man I love mokha java but I honestly think that modern mokha java (substituting the Yemeni component for a natural Ethiopian) tastes better, is much more affordable, and is consistently available. What you miss out on in mouthfeel and body you make up for with green quality and fruited flavors.

The problem with a lot of Yemeni coffees is how wildly inconsistent they can be, and how hard green distributors put their thumb on the scales to sell their greens - look at Sweet Maria's giving a "cupper's correction" of 5-7 points on their Mokha Matari, basically saying that uncorrected it's a 78-80 point coffee. How much do you like the flavor of newsprint? Want some wet cardboard with your espresso?

If you absolutely do want to do a true Mokha Java, I would look for the Mokha Haraaz AA lots that Roastmasters gets in. They're not cheap - usually around $20/lb, but they have (by far) been the very best Yemeni coffees I've tried. I might wait to see if something newer comes up, since this lot has been on the shelves for some time now: https://www.roastmasters.com/yemenred.html

For Indonesian coffees, I really like Royal's Indonesian offerings, but they aren't the typical "tobacco/dirt/medicine" flavors that you expect from wet hulled coffee. More like complex spice/vanilla flavors.

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[ntblanks]

Oh man I love mokha java but I honestly think that modern mokha java (substituting the Yemeni component for a natural Ethiopian) tastes better, is much more affordable, and is consistently available. What you miss out on in mouthfeel and body you make up for with green quality and fruited flavors.

The problem with a lot of Yemeni coffees is how wildly inconsistent they can be, and how hard green distributors put their thumb on the scales to sell their greens - look at Sweet Maria's giving a "cupper's correction" of 5-7 points on their Mokha Matari, basically saying that uncorrected it's a 78-80 point coffee. How much do you like the flavor of newsprint? Want some wet cardboard with your espresso?

If you absolutely do want to do a true Mokha Java, I would look for the Mokha Haraaz AA lots that Roastmasters gets in. They're not cheap - usually around $20/lb, but they have (by far) been the very best Yemeni coffees I've tried. I might wait to see if something newer comes up, since this lot has been on the shelves for some time now: https://www.roastmasters.com/yemenred.html

For Indonesian coffees, I really like Royal's Indonesian offerings, but they aren't the typical "tobacco/dirt/medicine" flavors that you expect from wet hulled coffee. More like complex spice/vanilla flavors.

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Excellent intel. Cheers.

[tgapp]

what is happening

this is the second Captain's Coffee I've had that is just miserable - this is their Durato Bombe.

did I fucking forget how to roast? am I having a stroke? is there a reason why everything tastes like burnt toast?

profile here for constructive feedback, this looks good to me, maybe a little slow but that's how this roaster is.

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[doebedoe]

tgapps's Yemini that I was fortunate enough to score a # of was probably the most mind opening coffee I've had in the last decade. I had to be in the mood for it, but when I was, fuck me. It was like the good parts of a cigar and whiskey in my morning coffee.

[tgapp]

tgapps's Yemini that I was fortunate enough to score a # of was probably the most mind opening coffee I've had in the last decade. I had to be in the mood for it, but when I was, fuck me. It was like the good parts of a cigar and whiskey in my morning coffee.

Yeah that was the Roastmasters Haraaz Special Red. Pretty cool shit. Mouthfeel so thick you can stand a spoon up in it.

I'm not downplaying how good Yemeni coffee can be, but uh, I also can't downplay how bad it can be when it's bad. I threw out probably 5#s of coffee that I paid $10+/lb for, you couldn't have paid me to drink that, and I couldn't in good conscience even give it away.

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[sb]

Yemen is a troubled part of the world.


That is a fancy graph, i sort of see whats going on but i do not know the nomenclature. My roast log has a time vs temp graph i have used a few times which reminds me a bit of math and science class stuff we did as kids.