The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[riser4]

Seems like the Lake Bomoseen zone should be included. That's north of 4.

There's always some folks on both sides of any border that seem like they should be on the other side of it. I mean, that's the entire reason you and I are having this little side chat, right?

[riser4]

Hah. I actually lived there for a couple months in the late nineties. Nice place but I’m not agreeing to accept any part of VT. Don’t we have enough problems?

You're not wrong. And for the record there's an important phrasing that is getting lost here. We are describing 'East New York'. It's like inner Mongolia vs Outer Mongoiia. East New York is a region of VT, not part of NY.

[gravitylover]

Ellicottville is its own little world. Kinda out of place in the upstates. go one Valley over in any direction and the real estate values plummet greatly, with a corresponding increase in strategic tarpitecture…

It's truly an island with little in common with the rest of the region. If you're ok with a 15 minute drive into town the taxes are half (or less) which is ok but you really lose services quickly as you move away from town. The upside is you lose a lot of zoning restrictions making it easier to live as you please.

There's always some folks on both sides of any border that seem like they should be on the other side of it. I mean, that's the entire reason you and I are having this little side chat, right?

Yup. There's almost always a shared culture and design aesthetic. In some places this is more pronounced than others and sometimes it flips for some distance. This happens around Williamstown and Stockbridge MA and Kent CT where the New England aspects bleed west into NY.

You're not wrong. And for the record there's an important phrasing that is getting lost here. We are describing 'East New York'. It's like inner Mongolia vs Outer Mongoiia. East New York is a region of VT, not part of NY.

You could use Rt 30, give or take a few hundred yards, as an effective boundary to where it crosses Rt 7 then use 7 as the boundary right down to New Milford CT where E NY pretty much ends.

[m2711c]

[m2711c]

‘pparently greys in yer beard gets ya teh geezer discount.




lunch time




fact.

[m2711c]

and rez gas and weed are ubiquitous across teh upstates…


fact.

[gravitylover]

Except for the res south of Syracuse, they're staying away from retail shops. Around Salamanca and the Akwesasne up north are the least expensive, around Seneca Falls is the most expensive.

[DBdude]

It doesn't matter. It's all upstate.

hmmmmmmm.... i'm still not onboard. obstinate glens faller / spitting distance of eastern vt er

i was in west pawlet when you could swim and jump in the quarries and the dead came to glens falls and there were industrial jobs in southern vermont

[Core Shot]

Resourceful as fuck!

UC on tap and California pens on delivery.

While skiing.

In August.

In Chile.


Props.



Woah, there. Eliminating the Southern Tier eliminates Ellicottville, the Seneca Casino and loads of rez gas n weed and that just can’t stand.

Just take comfort in knowing Erie, PA exists to buffer the advancing hoardes from the entirety of the west.


ETA: just came across this. Apparently someone saw fit to make most of the Upstates part of the Midatlantic (likely Benny, who thought the NYC and DC Metros were one in the same) and the rest is just “Cleveland Midwest” which may not be wrong.

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Hell no. Cleveland ain’t claiming Michigan

[CallMeAl]

… obstinate glens faller

Buuuuuud!

[BmillsSkier]

You seem to find your people no matter the continent. Well done.

Hell no. Cleveland ain’t claiming Michigan

Hey man, I didn't make the map, I just shared it. Take it up with the Michiganders that accepted that designation.

[m2711c]

was tryin’ ta enjoying a tasty meal at the fancy assed sit down place…




but apparently they got “standards ta uphold”… fuckers made me use a glass.




uc does give ya some good head though, don’t it?


fact.

[riser4]

Who doesn't appreciate good head?

[m2711c]

well, that was a productive week…







if you look under the smog you can see ‘em gassin’ up the plane for me down at SCL. lift off in 5 hours



fact.

[RShea]

I just want answers!

If Syracuse is CNY, and Buffalo is WNY, where the fuck is Rochester?

In between really.... ;-)

[Brownski]

Made a run up to CNY yesterday and noticed this at a piss stop on Rt 17 (future 86) not sure if it’s been mentioned before



It says something about us when our vending machines need to be locked up inside of welded steel cages.

[RShea]

Made a run up to CNY yesterday and noticed this at a piss stop on Rt 17 (future 86) not sure if it’s been mentioned before



It says something about us when our vending machines need to be locked up inside of welded steel cages.

I've seen vending machines inside of prisons and jails not that well protected....

[BmillsSkier]

Yo m27, I see Mike Douglas is skiing in Portillo, did you see the Godfather of Freeskiing?

[m2711c]

you mean this guy?

[Peruvian]

Doug's is the least Upstate Fish Fry I've ever seen.

[gravitylover]

Made a run up to CNY yesterday and noticed this at a piss stop on Rt 17 (future 86) not sure if it’s been mentioned before



It says something about us when our vending machines need to be locked up inside of welded steel cages.

That's the one by like Hancock right? That's one of my favorite rest areas in the state. It certainly has the cleanest bathroom and most attentive and friendly staff.

[Brownski]

That's the one by like Hancock right? That's one of my favorite rest areas in the state. It certainly has the cleanest bathroom and most attentive and friendly staff.

Yes, that’s the one. I didn’t see any staff. The men’s bathroom was ok I guess but my wife told me she had to hover. Admittedly, she has higher hygienic standards than I do- probably due to being raised downstate.

[gravitylover]

Heh, mine is the same. LI girls... They're usually there on Saturdays and I've seen them every weekday. Next time you're there look around the back of the building, that's where the office is.

Anyone see the disaster in CT today? 6 to as much as 13.5 inches so far today. What a mess.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Doug's is the least Upstate Fish Fry I've ever seen.

Skinny-atlas is mosdef not in teh upstates. It's kinda like Saratoga Springs. And Lesotho. A country within a country...

ETA: it is ironic (at least to me) that an upstate icon (Stewarts Shops) is HQ'ed in Saratoga Springs...or is that Malta?

[Peruvian]

We must have been somewhere outside of Rome when I saw the overlap intersection of where the eastern edge of Byrne Dairy & Deli’s dominion met the western frontier of Stewart’s Shops.