The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[riser4]

Got 65,000 more people to match what I can contribute?

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

roundtop would be a better deal anyway even though it be there in the vermonts.

fact.

I know it's post-COVID and all but that's a ridiculous price for a ski area that hasn't operated in over a decade.

I used to ski there a fair bit when I was in high school; it's not bad, but it's not great.

Magic sold for under $1M as an operating ski area with 1 lift that was certified and a bar that was a money printing machine.

Fact.

[gravitylover]

It's a heckuva sweet little ski area though. I went twice 15-20 years ago and really enjoyed it. It's not worth 6mil though, not even sort of.

[RShea]

At 3.5 it's worth it, at 6 it was a stretch
https://snowbrains.com/new-yorks-sno...QRfFYxdxzcSRNM

Even though they claim they are the snowiest resort in NY, I do know they struggled to even get open last year, and then closed down early due to conditions and not enough snow making capabilities. I hope they stay around as an option, but last year they closed around the middle of February due to the conditions and maybe other reasons.

[gravitylover]

Yeah even the best snow zones need some help. That fake snow stuff needs some density mixed in. That's like the local hill near me in a way, it's got huge potential but only a dreamer (freak?) could realize it. At least Cockaigne gets some snow.

[Timberridge]

Magic sold for under $1M as an operating ski area with 1 lift that was certified and a bar that was a money printing machine.

Fact.

Now as one of S. VT's premier wedding venues along with a world class disc golf course it has become a true four season destination resort, of sorts.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

^ Gives the locals something to bitch about in the summer as well as the winter....

[half-fast]

275” on 430’ vertical is not necessarily a good thing

[BmillsSkier]

We’ll surely they don’t get it all at once

[Brownski]

Hey GL, I think I tried your BBQ place. The brisket was pretty good

[EWG]

275” on 430’ vertical is not necessarily a good thing

Maybe so. But on the other hand they get 5% of their total vertical in snow every year. Which is impressive as shit - and totally an Upstates kinda stat.

[snowaddict91]

We took a family budget ski trip to Cockaigne for a few days one winter. It wound up dumping and we skied untracked all day the first day. At the time, it was probably the best pow day this Ohio kid had ever had.

[Timberridge]

A college friend's dad used to be a ski instructor there back in the 80's. Told me it used to be a stop on the Pro Ski Tour and Phil and Steve stopped by once. I guess 430' was long enough for a course.



These were the small local feeder hills that got kids hooked on skiing before they moved to Breckenridge and became legends. $10 lift tickets and night skiing. It was like the dealer giving you the first hit for free.

Now, it's a commitment.

[BmillsSkier]

A college friend's dad used to be a ski instructor there back in the 80's. Told me it used to be a stop on the Pro Ski Tour and Phil and Steve stopped by once. I guess 430' was long enough for a course.



These were the small local feeder hills that got kids hooked on skiing before they moved to Breckenridge and became legends. $10 lift tickets and night skiing. It was like the dealer giving you the first hit for free.

Now, it's a commitment.

I feel like this statement, right here, is the origin story on so many of us. (Shocking, I know, that we all weren't Level III skiers out of the womb skiing spines in Haines by age 2)

Glen Plake stopped by my rinky dink hill when I was in middle school or so and skiing with him was one of the biggest ski thrills of my life to that point. I was at that place every second I wasn't in class or sleeping. I still ski with a few of the guys I came up with there. Long live the 400' bump with a fixed triple. Long live!

[Timberridge]

Yeah, we kinda laugh at these places now, but it's also sad because as a kid it was certainly a major step up from hiking the hill behind the HS.

[m2711c]

watched wyane wong and vladimir “spider” sabich throw down slow dog noodles on the mogul side of snow ridge’s north slope ‘bout 2 weeks afore claudine shot “spider” in the stomach with a “luger”…







fact.

[gravitylover]

Hey GL, I think I tried your BBQ place. The brisket was pretty good

The ribs are fantastic. The place is an architectural masterpiece, right?

[gravitylover]

I feel like this statement, right here, is the origin story on so many of us. (Shocking, I know, that we all weren't Level III skiers out of the womb skiing spines in Haines by age 2)

Long live the 400' bump with a fixed triple. Long live!

I was.

There are a few local hills with great potential, not many but there are a few. If I could ever have the resources to try I sure would. The reason nobody has ever proved my theory is nobody ever threw the kind of money at it that it would take. They have no vision and I have no money. Sound familiar?

[Brownski]

I feel like this statement, right here, is the origin story on so many of us. (Shocking, I know, that we all weren't Level III skiers out of the womb skiing spines in Haines by age 2)

Glen Plake stopped by my rinky dink hill when I was in middle school or so and skiing with him was one of the biggest ski thrills of my life to that point. I was at that place every second I wasn't in class or sleeping. I still ski with a few of the guys I came up with there. Long live the 400' bump with a fixed triple. Long live!

I have been making this same argument for a while now. Interestingly, another upstate feeder hill is in the process of being pulled back from the brink (hopefully).

https://nyskiblog.com/holiday-mountain-back-from-the-brink

Also, me and Junior got to ski with Plake at Plattekill on his last homer tour, as I’m sure a bunch of people here did, and I agree that it was a great experience. Extremely cool

[Brownski]

The ribs are fantastic. The place is an architectural masterpiece, right?

Not sure about masterpiece… maybe a miracle? That it is still standing I mean. Very cool though

[grskier]

I have been making this same argument for a while now. Interestingly, another upstate feeder hill is in the process of being pulled back from the brink (hopefully).

https://nyskiblog.com/holiday-mountain-back-from-the-brink

Also, me and Junior got to ski with Plake at Plattekill on his last homer tour, as I’m sure a bunch of people here did, and I agree that it was a great experience. Extremely cool

I was about to post that so, thanks. Check out their social feeds. Local business guy bought the hill. It had a number of years of deferred maintenance.

My family has a big tie to the place. Dad was the GM and my sisters and I worked in the rental shop, friends were in the cafeteria, we coached for the ski club, and generally spent every day during the winter there after school... Night skiing was our jam.
Happy to see that place get some life breathed back into it. I'd love to come back one winter and ski a few days there, Belleyere, Platty, etc.

[fastfred]

just checking into the upstate thrad ladies and gentlemen

last year this time I was galivanting around the upstates tasting it like a fine wine of bugs summer humidity and heat
I did get a quick weekend visit in early june but that doesn't count fo rmuch when you need weeks to expolore such a glourious place

after a hard days work of pointing my finger and supervising at adult day care I'm lubeing my chain and going for a bike ride
we will be sitting down this weekend and planning out the rest of the years vacations and into winter I guess that is what adults do
my only hope is for another unabated road trip to see upstate until then

[fastfred]

as always you guys are doing gods work polishing a turd and finding the magic

[m2711c]

you’re always welcome back here Fred. we’ll leave the light on for ya…








fact.

[fastfred]

I.looked for the jeep when I drove by but you weren't at work that day