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Thread: Official ATK Binding Thread

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    All I care about is if they’re going to keep making the front brake unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgzy View Post
    https://www.skipass.com/guide-matos/..._rando-insert/

    Lots of updates coming for 2025, new toepiece for the crest, kuluar moves to r01, raider SL models with the new toe, new “timepacer” which looks like a kuluar with brakes


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    Per telemark pyrenees, new toe pieces are coming in with 4mm taller pin heights over previous gen crest/trofeo toes which should drop the haute route to 0 delta and crests to 7.5 or so


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    I’ve got some Raider 11 evo for sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    I’ve got some Raider 11 evo for sale
    What are you asking for them Mikey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgzy View Post
    Per telemark pyrenees, new toe pieces are coming in with 4mm taller pin heights over previous gen crest/trofeo toes which should drop the haute route to 0 delta and crests to 7.5 or so


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    Except that most heel units also got taller, so it kind of evens out. But of course, it’s ATK so there’s a million different combos of features and pieces,, so check the list for the model you’re considering.

    https://skimo.co/pin-heights?gad_sou...SAAEgKirfD_BwE

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    What are you asking for them Mikey?

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    $420 shipped

    120 brakes

    new in box
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    $420 shipped

    120 brakes

    new in box
    sold em
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    Official ATK Binding Thread

    had some Elan branded C-Raider Freeride Spacers for sale over in Gear Swap

    sold
    Last edited by ~mikey b; 08-29-2024 at 02:35 PM.
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    that’s cool
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    On the 10th Sept I'm doing a days tech/maintenance training with ATK so if anyone has any questions/issues just PM me and I'll endeavour to obtain answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    On the 10th Sept I'm doing a days tech/maintenance training with ATK so if anyone has any questions/issues just PM me and I'll endeavour to obtain answers.
    I have a 2-3mm gap between the sole of my boot and the top of the freeride spacer with all of the extra spacers installed. Is this normal? is there something i can do about it?

    Boots are Atomic Hawx Ultra xtd on FR15s.

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    Appears ATK corporate has setup shop in Salt Lake City with a service center and other corporate things. Should make for easier sourcing and service.

    ATK SPORTS NORTH AMERICA (atkbindings.com)

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    Well I’ll be damn. Cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBABUCKS1 View Post
    Appears ATK corporate has setup shop in Salt Lake City with a service center and other corporate things. Should make for easier sourcing and service.
    ATK SPORTS NORTH AMERICA (atkbindings.com)
    ATK are in the process of setting up specialist service centres in each country. The ATK guys came to the UK a week ago and I did my training with them then. The guys then headed off to Utah to do the same with the SkiMo guys. And from there they were heading up to Toronto.

    I signed an NDA so can't say anything but there's some cool shit coming soon and IIRC they'll go public this Nov for the 25/26 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by FullStop View Post
    I have a 2-3mm gap between the sole of my boot and the top of the freeride spacer with all of the extra spacers installed. Is this normal? is there something i can do about it? Boots are Atomic Hawx Ultra xtd on FR15s.
    FullStop, I asked about your issue and they were aware of it with certain boots. Their fix is that the 24/25 Freeride Spacers will be supplied with four spacers instead of three (0.9mm, 1.2mm, 2.4mm). The additional spacer is a 2mm that has risers (kinda like a Lego block) to add extra height to the riser 'columns' so all the four shims can be used. If you contact SkiMo they'll be able to get you a set of the new shims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post

    I signed an NDA so can't say anything but there's some cool shit coming soon and IIRC they'll go public this Nov for the 25/26 season.

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    Must be that tecton killer some folks have been whispering about for a while here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post



    FullStop, I asked about your issue and they were aware of it with certain boots. Their fix is that the 24/25 Freeride Spacers will be supplied with four spacers instead of three (0.9mm, 1.2mm, 2.4mm). The additional spacer is a 2mm that has risers (kinda like a Lego block) to add extra height to the riser 'columns' so all the four shims can be used. If you contact SkiMo they'll be able to get you a set of the new shims.
    Excellent, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBABUCKS1 View Post
    Appears ATK corporate has setup shop in Salt Lake City with a service center and other corporate things. Should make for easier sourcing and service.

    ATK SPORTS NORTH AMERICA (atkbindings.com)
    I guess this explains why BD hasn’t updated their website with the 24/25 ATK bindings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason4 View Post
    I guess this explains why BD hasn’t updated their website with the 24/25 ATK bindings.
    Very cool to see! Black Diamond was doing repairs on site in SLC last year but it’s cool that a tech binding manufacturer is setting up shop in the US. Is this the first time?

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    our local ATK rep is set up as a mobile binding mechanic , so we will have parts and service readily available


    sounds like they’re doing training in the US for shop techs like spyderjon did
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    aaannd

    right on cue - we’ve got a sales/tech clinic in Reno next week that I and another guy from the shop are going to

    gonna get learned up on the ATK program
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    mounted my first pair today


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    Am I correct to conclude that now all brake-models require spinning the heel? Or is there still another version? Spinning the heel is a no go for me . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    Am I correct to conclude that now all brake-models require spinning the heel? Or is there still another version? Spinning the heel is a no go for me . . .
    There are a few that still use the old system. The new Raider SL series, Timepacer (totally new brake system there), and Crests still have non-twisty brakes. ATK still makes one version of the old style raider & freeraider too.

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    Official ATK Binding Thread

    ATK clinic was great today - I’m really impressed with their products - they’re new to me and I learned a lot

    the thing that I really like is the sustainability program they’ve got going on - aluminum left over from manufacturing is recycled into new stock to make more bindings

    new Raider Evo platforms are now aluminum instead of plastic, which makes more of the binding recyclable

    less plastic means more of the binding is made in house - as the ATK guy pointed out, they’re an aluminum machining factory, not a plastic injection molding factory

    bindings are repairable - individual parts can be replaced - a lot of parts are. interchangeable between models

    the binding they were most proud of was the RT 11 EVO - uses same toe technology as Raider EVO with lateral release adjustability - website says 325 grams but the sheet they gave us says 295 grams - we will have to weigh it - either way that’s pretty damn good for a binding that looks pretty beefy to me

    https://atkbindings.com/en-us/produc...t&_ss=e&_v=1.0


    with a new North American distribution center in SLC getting product and parts and support is going to be easier than is was with BD (in SLC [emoji848]) - it doesn’t sound like they were particularly happy working with BD - they love working with Moment skis

    our tech rep in Reno can service and repair stuff we can’t or don’t have parts for - kinda like sending your bike fork out for service

    they recommend using silicone instead of glue or epoxy for mounting - not the first time I’ve heard this but first time it’s been recommended to me by a binding manufacturer

    I have to say, spending some time with some techs from a couple other shops in Truckee / North Tahoe, I learned a few things about how other places do their mounts and bend brakes and stuff - if you’re not coming to The BackCountry you should go to Alpenglow or Tahoe Mountain Sports if you want a certified ATK dealer to mount your bindings properly - there are other shops that aren’t ATK dealers that I trust and some that I just don’t - ‘nuff said

    I got to spend some time chatting with the NA rep from Italy - great guy - you can tell they’re passionate - they’re always developing new stuff - sounds like we will see a new binding that will change the game in one category


    ATK bindings get the ~mikey b FKNA seal of approval

    where they will be challenged to compete is on price now that Dynafit dropped their retail prices - Radical went down from $500 to $400
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    Official ATK Binding Thread

    a big point that they made that I forgot to mention: the main problem that they see with bindings that are prereleasing is poor alignment - we’ve got to use the actual boot in the binding to assure that everything is lined up properly and to set forward pressure and release settings - internet buyers who buy a ski and binding online and have things mounted with just BSL rather than a boot are often the ones who have problems

    also, they’re trying to build a binding around sooo many different boots - someone with a 24.5 carbon tour boot might be in the same binding as someone with 29 crossover freeride boot and they should work consistently with either one - that’s a tall order

    safety and consistency is things they are after


    also, skiing with locked toes doesn’t do shit for changing your release value - most of the release is in the heel so doing that does NOTHING

    as Nonna says “UNLOCK THOSE TOES!”

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