I shoulda read the instructions.
I own the FR 14 and this year added the Voyager 12 mounted on a new Salomon QST 98. I skied this set up inbounds today at Targhee. It skis beautifully.
I’m 6-1 and 185 lbs. I have the release value set at 9. I skied it hard, more aggressively than I would in the backcountry.
My question to you—why would I want one of the higher release value models? Actually why would you want a higher RV model?
the key advantage to the fr16 over the fr14 in my experience was that it was in stock locally.
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I'm considering ordering a Trofeo to replace some old Dynafit speed turns. Does anyone here have experience with these? I've read at least one review mentioning difficulty, a lot force required, to rotate the heel piece to switch lifter levels from 0 to high. Assuming I get the Trofeo 8 wouldn't the rotational force to rotate the binding be the same as the also Dynafit set on 8?
The "high" riser on these is basically the same as the race flap over the pins. Other than needing flat, i don't rotate. They are tough to spin, but less than any plums i use so maybe i just don't notice it. I like em but they are a race style binding with the pros and cons as such. If you run an 8, the oazo I think is a little better.
Release has to do with the u spring, not the tightness of the tower and the detents. You can break them in by rotating a bunch at home. It sorta scores the metal and beds in like a disc brake. Pros of the tight rotation is I've never gotten slop in an atk or plum tower where the easier to spin dynafits and MTNs got loose.
Are the brakes on the C-raider 12 interchangeable? Found a decent deal on a pair but they come with 86mm brakes and I need 108.
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Yes
So, hand rotation ease is a function of lateral RV and how much leverage you can apply with your hands.
Smaller race bindings are more difficult to spin as a result. Sometimes, flipping the riser gains you a touch more leverage.
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Agree, but ... flip the riser only on the Trofeo, since it is specifically designed to "nest" for such a purpose.
Other ATK race models, as well as many race models from other companies, can physically be spun 180-degrees with the heel cover flipped to extract a few more mm of riser height, BUT the heel cover could ended up being broken by that.
Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series
Thanks for that. Makes sense and since I'm unlikely to huck or cliff drop on purpose I'll probably buy another Voyager 12.
By the way, Evo now has it on sale for $594
https://www.evo.com/alpine-touring-s...nt-voyager-xii
Other than the always active brake, does the front 12 really add much for the ~50g over the normal r12? I remember the old front brake raiders being a love hate thing
Love mine, would prolly buy the front 12 next. Very cool update to a great design.
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I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
The redesigned al09 freeride spacer is a big improvement on the og design. I broke a wing on the og design almost immediately, and BD shipped me the redesigned spacers no questions asked. Havent skied em yet but they look g2g.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/y6uf1ijLpepvTW8H7
I’ve searched but haven’t found a definitive answer: can you remove the brakes on Freeraiders/Voyagers but keep the freeride spacer?
Yes. You can buy a cover for the brake attachment to prevent ice buildup but it’s not required
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Awesome offer man, thank you. But I waited too long to pull the trigger on that good deal. I’ll wait and see if they come back in stock, but not holding my breath. I’ll keep in touch.
Someone else told me they saw me on the news too, they must be running something old since I haven’t done an on camera in a while? Although I have been known to do a 2am interview and forget all about it.
zion zig zag, ATK are out of C-Raiders until next season but I've got a couple of pairs left in stock and I have 108mm brakes. If you'd like a quote just PM me your zip code.
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