Official ATK Binding Thread

[CirqueScaler]

I have an extra pair that I can sell.
Brand new, taken off a pair of BD Helio 180 that I mounted for someone on race skis.

Thanks! Will DM.

[North]

Was on the BD website and noticed that they are now selling a fully ATK-branded Crest, and a new plate that allows ATK brakes to be added to helio bindings.

[CirqueScaler]

Was on the BD website and noticed that they are now selling a fully ATK-branded Crest, and a new plate that allows ATK brakes to be added to helio bindings.

Looks like BD will distribute ATK bindings in the US going forward. Post from Utah Skimo today says:

...First, our series sponsor @blackdiamond_snow is proud to announce that it is launching North American distribution of @atk_bindings . Yep, the bindings that you see on many of the world cup athletes will be here in 2021! And yes we are raffling off a pair of ATK Trofeo 10 bindings tomorrow night!

Link: https://www.facebook.com/UtahSkiMo/p...19264451544311

[Benneke10]

Only a matter of time before Telemark Pyrenees and other euro sites get banned from shipping to US and Canada, if you don't have a BD pro deal time to buy

[Spyderjon]

Only a matter of time before Telemark Pyrenees and other euro sites get banned from shipping to US and Canada, if you don't have a BD pro deal time to buy

There are other options

[glademaster]

There are other, better options

FIFY

[galibier_numero_un]

There are other options

+1000

[volklpowdermaniac]

The BD350 is just the raider 12 yea? And with the move of the brake back to heel (as opposed to the toe) ramp of raider 12 is still 11/11.5ish?

[MegaStoke]

The BD350 is just the raider 12 yea? And with the move of the brake back to heel (as opposed to the toe) ramp of raider 12 is still 11/11.5ish?

Not quite, it’s basically a raider 12 heel, and a crest toe.

[volklpowdermaniac]

Hmmm, interesting.

[cydwhit]

So after my great experience with two pairs of the Moment Voyager 14's, I'm pretty sure I want a pair of the Trofeo Plus for an ultralight setup. That's my lightest option with heel length adjust and a flat mode, right?

[Westcoaster]

So after my great experience with two pairs of the Moment Voyager 14's, I'm pretty sure I want a pair of the Trofeo Plus for an ultralight setup. That's my lightest option with heel length adjust and a flat mode, right?

I think thats correct. ~380 shipped on tp right now to the US.

[alpinevibes]

So after my great experience with two pairs of the Moment Voyager 14's, I'm pretty sure I want a pair of the Trofeo Plus for an ultralight setup. That's my lightest option with heel length adjust and a flat mode, right?

Yes, lightest by ~20g. Followed by: Helio 200LT at 400g w/adj plates, Superlite 150 at 410g w/adj plate; Plum Oazo 6 is 412g and Helio 200 is 420g.

My wife and two friends ski the Helio145 (non-plus Trofeo) and love it, as many do on this thread. Amazing construction and features for the weight. I've got the Helio 200 and am still super happy.

[Benneke10]

You can put an adjustment plate on the World Cup and its sort of got a flat mode. The Hagan site with the rebranded version says:

"Flat mode" can be enabled by mounting the heel piece 5 to 5.5 millimeters behind the boot heel instead of the standard 4 millimeters. The rotary release uses a ball and spring mechanism. When mounted, the ball and spring are retained by the ski surface when rotated. Rotated unmounted, the ball and spring will go flying out and a long search may ensue.

https://www.haganskimountaineering.c...o-race-binding

[Tjaardbreeuwer]

atree, if your toes are coming out fully locked that is pretty concerning. My girlfriend is a new ski tourer and I encouraged her to buy Crests, and her toes have been popping out on climbs all the time. I assumed its because she has been forgetting to lock her toes but maybe this is a real issue. She is using Scarpa Gea boots, what are you using?

I have Crests 10 and ZGTP’s, my daughter has Crest 8 and Switched from Procline to Backlands. I have done some weird bushwacking while skinning, but never came out of the bindings. Same for my daughter. We did try skinning in ski mode (first click as Galibier mentions), but even my daughter, with 139cm skis, skinned them off right away.

[glademaster]

FWIW, I have Crest 10's mounted on some fishscale based skis (Voile V6 99mm underfoot, 178cm), and I had no problem breaking trail, or following a set skin track through low angle terrain with the toes unlocked when I gave it a try. I just stepped in and headed on up.

I don't always use them that way, but I was pleased with their ability to not release while ascending.

Although I also skin with the toes on my G3 Ions unlocked unless it's a particularly slick skin track or frozen spring/summer snow.

[galibier_numero_un]

FWIW, I have Crest 10's mounted on some fishscale based skis (Voile V6 99mm underfoot, 178cm), and I had no problem breaking trail, or following a set skin track through low angle terrain with the toes unlocked when I gave it a try. I just stepped in and headed on up.

I don't always use them that way, but I was pleased with their ability to not release while ascending.

Although I also skin with the toes on my G3 Ions unlocked unless it's a particularly slick skin track or frozen spring/summer snow.

Kick turns?

[glademaster]

Most of my winter touring is low angle enough that kick turns aren't required on the way up.

[CirqueScaler]

Am I the only one struggling to screw the crampon holder into the Trofeo toe piece? Doesn't seem like it slides all the way under so that the screw hole aligns - I have to screw it in a bit off-axis or it won't go in.



Not sure if you can see, but the screw is slightly off-vertical (and there's only one in). Obviously not preferable, but is this fine if the crampon holder isn't moving? If it's functional, I'm fine leaving it like this, even if it marks me as a disgusting jong.

[Westcoaster]

Am I the only one struggling to screw the crampon holder into the Trofeo toe piece? Doesn't seem like it slides all the way under so that the screw hole aligns - I have to screw it in a bit off-axis or it won't go in.



Not sure if you can see, but the screw is slightly off-vertical (and there's only one in). Obviously not preferable, but is this fine if the crampon holder isn't moving? If it's functional, I'm fine leaving it like this, even if it marks me as a disgusting jong.

perhaps some glue squeeze out is interfering with the slot.

[mt_wilson]

Can the freeride spacers be mounted to any ATK? Hoping to use w/ Haute route 10...


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[fleaches]

Am I the only one struggling to screw the crampon holder into the Trofeo toe piece? Doesn't seem like it slides all the way under so that the screw hole aligns - I have to screw it in a bit off-axis or it won't go in.

You aren't the only one, had a hard time doing this on my crests also and the bad angle started stripping the holes. I think I was able to align the holes better by squeezing the crampon piece into the binding with a vise grip. Definitely would have been easier to just install that before mounting.



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[jacob_dbu]

Can the freeride spacers be mounted to any ATK? Hoping to use w/ Haute route 10...


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Been discussed in here a lot. There are two freeride spaces: AL09 and AL05.

AL09 only works with Freeraider, Raider, and Front bindings. There are special cutouts under the heel piece to fit the AL09 spacer.

The AL05 is universal and can be used with any binding whatsoever, but requires you to drill a hole for it. It's basically a height adjustable spacer with an moving AFD on top.

[fleaches]

Can the freeride spacers be mounted to any ATK? Hoping to use w/ Haute route 10...


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Also check distance between your boot heel and ski, the lowest setting on the spacer isn't that low and so it can't be used with all boot/binding combos. Some people have filed them down though.

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[mt_wilson]

Thanks fleaches and jongiest! I’m late to the game here appreciate in the info gents


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