Wasatch Dirt Thread

[Boissal]

No bikes on tram in 2020.

Thanks, saves me from having to get up early to beat the tram people!

[Dantheman]

Thanks, saves me from having to get up early to beat the tram people!

You might want to confirm with Snowbird that it still doesn't become DH-only at some point during the day.

[brutah]

Rode castle to BMT yesterday morning. Beautiful morning. Super fun and tough link up but the locals (wildlife and wildflowers) and views distracted from the redlining agony of some of the climbs.

[brutah]

You might want to confirm with Snowbird that it still doesn't become DH-only at some point during the day.

To this point, there was still a sign saying it goes dh only at 11 am, but seems like it's leftover from prior years. They're not loading bikes on the team and my buddy said BMT is in great shape (it was my first time down it)

[criscam]

To this point, there was still a sign saying it goes dh only at 11 am, but seems like it's leftover from prior years. They're not loading bikes on the team and my buddy said BMT is in great shape (it was my first time down it)

I kinda heard this was still in effect which is why I did the road up but encountered a few parties going up as I came down. Some yielded as if I had the right of way. Others played it the opposite. 🤷


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[Dantheman]

The level of disregard for the new Guardsman parking rules is pretty impressive. Though, I didn't see a parking ticket on a single car, either. I'm not sure why the county bothered with the no parking signs if they weren't going enforce it.

There also seems to be zero fucks given about the permanent closure of the old Bloods Lake trail. It's clearly still heavily used.

[mall walker]

The level of disregard for the new Guardsman parking rules is pretty impressive. Though, I didn't see a parking ticket on a single car, either. I'm not sure why the county bothered with the no parking signs if they weren't going enforce it.

There also seems to be zero fucks given about the permanent closure of the old Bloods Lake trail. It's clearly still heavily used.

they really oughta just rip up the pavement up there and call it a day

[Boissal]

they really oughta just rip up the pavement up there and call it a day

They just repaved the BCC side last week...

[zion zig zag]

I rode a completely empty Canyons to Canyons crest today.



Just kidding. The jockeying for position leaving the top of puke hill was impressive. Full on sprints up the double track.

[Dshack89]

^I've learned the Crest is all about getting lucky with timing. We started pedaling around 330 today and didnt really see a soul on Crest to Canyons after Puke hill. Just depends on whether you get stuck leapfrogging a couple groups or are lucky to have enough spacing.

It's great to be out riding, but man we could use some moisture in the dirt. Hopefully we get some monsoon moisture this week.

[Phall]

Finally rode honeycomb for the first time. That is a...character building climb from the top of queen bess. The rock garden is no joke, either. Didn’t clean it blind, but I’ll be back, maybe in cooler weather. BCC was a shitshow with people


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[mar123]

Pedaled a nice loop from Reynolds Flat Sunday evening...5:30-8:30 not a single mountain biker out. 2 hikers at the bottom of Mill D. Cool temps, quiet, glorious.

[Canada1]

“Tailgating”:
Yesterday I was dropping my daughter off at a buddies house across the street from a local hiking only trail head. Two families were grilling on barbecues while parked on the road in front of there house. Last evening I was a shuttle driver going past the deer valley empire mid mountain parking. A couple cars had spread out bunches of chairs around the parking. I put this firmly in the we are going to loose access box. We are our own worst enemy.

[brutah]

“Tailgating”:
Yesterday I was dropping my daughter off at a buddies house across the street from a local hiking only trail head. Two families were grilling on barbecues while parked on the road in front of there house. Last evening I was a shuttle driver going past the deer valley empire mid mountain parking. A couple cars had spread out bunches of chairs around the parking. I put this firmly in the we are going to loose access box. We are our own worst enemy.

File under "get off my lawn" haha I honestly don't see the issue. But sometimes I like to have a drink or bite to eat after a ride or hike or run. Is there something illegal about hanging out in a trailhead parking area?

[Touring_Sedan]

File under "get off my lawn" haha I honestly don't see the issue. But sometimes I like to have a drink or bite to eat after a ride or hike or run. Is there something illegal about hanging out in a trailhead parking area?

You forget, he's talking about Park City. If you try to put your shoes on at a trailhead they'll call the cops on you. I've never met a more selfish community. "Come! Spend all your money in our establishments! GTFO six seconds later!"

[One (+) Sentence]

“Tailgating”:
Yesterday I was dropping my daughter off at a buddies house across the street from a local hiking only trail head. Two families were grilling on barbecues while parked on the road in front of there house. Last evening I was a shuttle driver going past the deer valley empire mid mountain parking. A couple cars had spread out bunches of chairs around the parking. I put this firmly in the we are going to loose access box. We are our own worst enemy.

Is this as bad as visiting Moab back in spring after they had specifically asked people not to?

[mar123]

yeayyyyyy.... more public shaming, so much fun for those who aren't being shamed. Waiting anxiously for the video.

[Canada1]

File under "get off my lawn" haha I honestly don't see the issue. But sometimes I like to have a drink or bite to eat after a ride or hike or run. Is there something illegal about hanging out in a trailhead parking area?

For me it is a question of scale. I have shade trees in front of my house so it is where everyone parks to catch the bus, work in the neighborhood, eat there lunch, etc.. It has never bothered me at all. But, if people were pulling out the weber in front of my place, and grilling and having a picnic, that would bug me. The idea of lighting up charcoal is an order of magnitude greater from my NIMBY attitude. Have a post ride beer. Sit on the tail gate and laugh, smile and share the fun. For me, when you are lighting up a grill and making it into a picnic, that is different.

One sentence. Yes, I am an asshole. I made a bunch of day trips to Moab. I see the anger people have at others driving through their town in Canada and realize I am on a different wave length than most. When there I only parked in remote trail head parking lots or in the desert. But you are right, it's all about perspective.

[Boissal]

^I've learned the Crest is all about getting lucky with timing. We started pedaling around 330 today and didnt really see a soul on Crest to Canyons after Puke hill. Just depends on whether you get stuck leapfrogging a couple groups or are lucky to have enough spacing.

It's great to be out riding, but man we could use some moisture in the dirt. Hopefully we get some monsoon moisture this week.

Same observation. Ms Boissal and I managed to ride from Big Water to the top of Crest last week (her choice) right in between 2 shuttle packs. There was a constant flow of bikes as we got to the parking lot, a few stragglers as we were getting ready, then pretty much 0 traffic (foot or wheels) to the start of Millcreek Meadows. We pulled over to eat a bite and ended up waiting 20 minutes to let a whole bunch of riders go by. Lots of kids with school backpacks on rented Santa Cruz with perma-locked rear brakes went by, a few ate shit right in front of us. Once they were gone we didn't see anyone else to the top. It's definitely all about timing and if you get lucky it's glorious. If you end up in the middle of a pack it's probably worth pulling over and taking a nap though...

Re: moisture, couldn't agree more, I may have ended my season because of the moon dust this weekend.
I was 45 minutes into a ride going up Serenity at Solitude when I randomly lost the front end in one of the really short downhill bits. I was going 10 mph max and put the front wheel into a bottomless patch of dust at the edge of a slight bend in the trail. It slid off as if I had been riding black ice and I smashed my head into the side of the trail. I had a few seconds of white-out vision with loud ringing in my ears then things went back to normal. I sat there for a bit wondering if I should continue riding then realized I didn't recognize my surroundings. I was staring at Crest across the canyon but couldn't process the view and had to pull up Trailforks to figure out where I was and how to get down. That really spooked me and I decided to get myself out of there before things got worse. I felt stable on the bike despite my left hand not working very well, I could see the parking lot 5 minutes below me, and I hadn't seen anyone go by in 15 minutes who could have helped so self-extraction seemed like the only call. By the time I reached the road things were coming back to me and when I got to the car I was fully alert and oriented and decided to drive home. Ms Boissal made me spend the next 36 hours in the dark doing nothing and whenever I complained (which would be constantly) she told me about the latest young and fit guy she saw in the trauma bay with a massive subdural hemtoma who became an organ donor...

X-ray of the wrist says nothing is broken, hopefully once the swelling is down I can figure out if there's ligament damage, I hyperextended a bunch of things when I got a hand on the ground and have some weird numbness and pain in a couple of fingers.

Bell/Giro have a crash replacement program for their helmets, given that this guy saved my noggin I'm going to replace it with the exact same model, as far as I'm concerned it has proved its worth:

[Dantheman]

Dude, yikes!

[Dantheman]

I have some kid stuff I'm about to put up for sale on KSL but I figured I'd give y'all the first crack at it. I'll provide more pics if there's interest. Let me know if you have any questions.

First item is a sweet little micro DJ/freestyle BMX bike. It started life as a Commencal Ramones 16, but I added 6" riser bars and upped the gearing to 36x13. It's a killer skatepark/pumptrack bike for little guys. I also have all the stock parts still and can include them if wanted (unused original rear wheel with 16t freewheel, low rise bars, and I'm pretty sure I still have the front brake). Thinking $150 for this. Here's pics of it:






Second item is a Brood Eldorado 20" suspension fork (plus a bonus front wheel). This is actually a rebranded Lil Shredder fork. Carbon lowers, sealed cartridge damper, adjustable rebound. This was the best 20" suspension fork made, bar none, until Manitou launched the JUNIT stuff last year. Performance-wise it's actually *this* close to the Manitou stuff, but is actually about half a pound lighter thanks to the carbon lowers. It's basically this fork (https://spawncycles.com/brood-eldorado-ss-80-9) except this one has 100 mm travel and a 15 mm thru-axle. I'm including the front wheel since I assume few people will have a compatible wheel on hand. The wheel is a Brood TR27 wheel, 32h and tubeless-ready.

The fork came on a Spawn Rokkusuta 20 I bought new in August 2017. It got used on that bike for about 1.5 seasons. New seals and a full service at Go Ride last spring, then it got moved to his DJ where it stayed until last week. It's definitely used but still in great shape. Spawn sells the short-travel/QR version for $450. I'm thinking $250 for the fork/wheel combo.

[Dshack89]

@Boissal Glad to hear you are alright but that's scary stuff! Makes you realize how close we can get to crossing the line and having a serious injury, even when you least expect it.

[Boissal]

@Boissal Glad to hear you are alright but that's scary stuff! Makes you realize how close we can get to crossing the line and having a serious injury, even when you least expect it.

My thoughts exactly. I've been pushing it this season riding more techy stuff and going faster all around and I was very aware of the possibility of taking a big digger while playing that game. What I didn't expect is to crack a helmet on a flat section of easy trail that I've ridden a bunch. I got complacent, lowered my guard for a second, and now I'm even dumber than I was last week!

It was my first time hitting my head and despite hearing horror stories about head trauma from Ms Boissal (who has been seeing a bunch of bad mountain biking accidents and resulting scrambled brains) the whole thing remained very abstract to me. Shit, I've been around buddies who knocked themselves out skiing and would repeat the same questions at 10 minutes intervals for a while as they recovered and I thought it was worrisome but kinda funny. Not being able to identify the PC ridgeline when I spend about 100 days a year looking at it had me reassess that attitude though. I guess I'm going to wear a helmut skiing from now on, all feelings of invincibility have evaporated!

[Dantheman]

Ms. B has probably told you already, but sadly you should probably hang up the bike for at least two months.

[Canada1]

My thoughts exactly. I've been pushing it this season riding more techy stuff and going faster all around and I was very aware of the possibility of taking a big digger while playing that game. What I didn't expect is to crack a helmet on a flat section of easy trail that I've ridden a bunch. I got complacent, lowered my guard for a second, and now I'm even dumber than I was last week!

It was my first time hitting my head and despite hearing horror stories about head trauma from Ms Boissal (who has been seeing a bunch of bad mountain biking accidents and resulting scrambled brains) the whole thing remained very abstract to me. Shit, I've been around buddies who knocked themselves out skiing and would repeat the same questions at 10 minutes intervals for a while as they recovered and I thought it was worrisome but kinda funny. Not being able to identify the PC ridgeline when I spend about 100 days a year looking at it had me reassess that attitude though. I guess I'm going to wear a helmut skiing from now on, all feelings of invincibility have evaporated!

Buy a great ski helmet. I went through a year of head injury bills on one of my kids from a crash. The helmet is cheap in comparison to the time, energy and emotion of a head injury. Glad you had a great helmet on this time.