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  1. #76
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    get a set of 3 diamond stones up to 800, followed by sandpaper and strop.
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    Bump.

    Been a couple years since I bought my knives and I can tell. I’d like to go the stone route as it seems soothing, but there seems to be a pretty good argument for the accusharp. Not interested in spending more than $60 and preferably not something electric


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    I’ve done stones. It’s zen chill soothing.

    But I’m full electric. 10 steak knives and 7 chef knives done in no time.
    For stones start Arkansas course and fine then diamond then steel. Fuck that shite.

    I sharpen once or twice a year. Not every knife. My boning knife and roast beef knife is always sharp. My chef knives get dull in 6 months. Steak knives same, not from use but from going in the dishwasher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeachesNCream View Post
    Bump.

    Been a couple years since I bought my knives and I can tell. I’d like to go the stone route as it seems soothing, but there seems to be a pretty good argument for the accusharp. Not interested in spending more than $60 and preferably not something electric


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    After my post a year ago up thread I did some reading on the knife sharpening subreddit…. And…. I bought one of those rolling knife sharpeners. It works really well. It’s stupid easy. It’s small to store.

    HORL is the original brand. You might have seen instragram adds for one called TUMBLER. Both are expensive for what they are. Amazon has a bunch of knockoffs, which is what I bought. Make sure you get one with a 20deg and 15deg block if you have both euro and Japanese knives…




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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    After my post a year ago up thread I did some reading on the knife sharpening subreddit…. And…. I bought one of those rolling knife sharpeners. It works really well. It’s stupid easy. It’s small to store.

    HORL is the original brand. You might have seen instragram adds for one called TUMBLER. Both are expensive for what they are. Amazon has a bunch of knockoffs, which is what I bought. Make sure you get one with a 20deg and 15deg block if you have both euro and Japanese knives…




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    I’ve seen some instagram videos of these and that’s actually what prompted this post. Looks kinda soothing and with my price point. Fits the bill


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    Reed the Fishmonger has spent more time sharpening knifes than all of us combined.


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    Notice that the blade is not flat on the stone. This creates a microbevel on the edge of the blade, where the sharpening angle is higher than the overall angle of the blade. The idea is to hve to remove only a tiny amount of steel to resharpen. The width of the microbevel is a fraction of a millimeter, you would have to look hard to see it. I'm using a 1200 grit oilstone in Truckee and up to 8000 waterstone in my shop in Sacramento. (Waterstones can freeze in my garage in Truckee.) I don't notice a difference. The key to really sharp is honing using honing compound on a buffing wheel or strop. And regular honing on a steel in the kitchen. Honing removes the microscopic burr that sharpening the knife and using the knife creates.

    I don't think the sharpening angle--15 vs 20 degrees makes much difference, except that if you try to sharpen a 20 deg edge at 15 you won't actually be sharpening the actual edge unless you remove a lot of steel. What matters more in how a knife cuts is the overall angle and thickness of the blade--a blade should be as thin as possible without being too fragile--so skinny blades for slicing vegetables, fat blades for taking apart a chicken or chopping of the stem of an ear of corn.

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    I've given up. Bought a two sided stone. Watched videos. Spent 30 minutes trying and trying. Just can't get it to sharpen. I take mine to the knife shop. $6 and it's sharp a good year with just maintaining with a rod.

    And a knife NEVER goes in the dishwasher. Hand wash towel dry every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiBo View Post
    I've given up. Bought a two sided stone. Watched videos. Spent 30 minutes trying and trying. Just can't get it to sharpen. I take mine to the knife shop. $6 and it's sharp a good year with just maintaining with a rod.

    And a knife NEVER goes in the dishwasher. Hand wash towel dry every time.
    Interesting. Something seems odd or off.

    I don't find it too difficult. Maybe the key is consistent angle and pressure...idk. I did sharpen skis as a job for a few years so maybe that helped somehow even though it's completely different.

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    On all of my knives besides the Santoku I set sharpening angle on a bench grinder. Cool wheel, going very slow, and I have a lot of experience sharpening tools on a grinder. That makes subsequent sharpening on a stone much easier. I would not recommend to anyone else.

    There's a reason we use disposable scalpels and hypodermic needles.

    I'll help anyone around Truckee with sharpening. Might have to wait for the hair on my left forearm grows back though, so I can test sharpness. I just got done sharpening all my knives and shaved most of the hair off.

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    I bought the Ken Onion Worksharp. Adjustable to all angles, dead easy to use. I break it out about 4 times a year and do most of my knives all at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I don't think the sharpening angle--15 vs 20 degrees makes much difference,
    My 15deg knives feel sharper than my 20deg but don’t hold an edge as long.

    But that could be a material thing - all my 15s are CS and all my 20s are SS….


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    Quote Originally Posted by GiBo View Post
    I've given up. Bought a two sided stone. Watched videos. Spent 30 minutes trying and trying. Just can't get it to sharpen. I take mine to the knife shop. $6 and it's sharp a good year with just maintaining with a rod.

    And a knife NEVER goes in the dishwasher. Hand wash towel dry every time.
    What grit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Interesting. Something seems odd or off.

    I don't find it too difficult. Maybe the key is consistent angle and pressure...idk. I did sharpen skis as a job for a few years so maybe that helped somehow even though it's completely different.
    More than likely me that's off. Patience isn't my strong point.
    Quote Originally Posted by irul&ublo View Post
    What grit?


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    1000/6000. An Amazon cheapy like the fishmonger uses.

    I'll give it another go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    I bought the Ken Onion Worksharp. Adjustable to all angles, dead easy to use. I break it out about 4 times a year and do most of my knives all at once.
    This is the answer. You can get any knife scary sharp with minimal skill.
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    4 pages in and no mention of the plate/saucer ? PFFFTTTTTTT !!

    Doesn't anyone just use the back of a saucer anymore ?
    FFS !! My grandma cut all kinds of shit and its the only thing she ever used.
    Thanksgivng turkey?......Back of a tea cup. Salami ?........Back of a saucer.....Christmas roast ?......back of a dinner plate. Assortment of garlic and pickles? ......Back of a coffee cup. Fresh tomatoes from the garden ?....... Back of a saucer. Canning dill pickles?....Back of a saucer.
    You guys sound like a bunch of pussies whining about your knifes. lol.
    Every time I cut something in the kitchen, I give it a couple swipes with the old saucer. Good enough for me at least.

    Carry on !

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    Still rocking my chef's choice 130. I don't use it very often since I only cut on wood and poly boards and steel regularly between uses. But that sucker turns out nice sharp knives with minimal effort once the angles on all the knives have been set. Takes as long to get the sharpener out and put it away as it does to touch up a few knives with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad dancer View Post
    4 pages in and no mention of the plate/saucer ? PFFFTTTTTTT !!

    Doesn't anyone just use the back of a saucer anymore ?
    FFS !! My grandma cut all kinds of shit and its the only thing she ever used.
    Thanksgivng turkey?......Back of a tea cup. Salami ?........Back of a saucer.....Christmas roast ?......back of a dinner plate. Assortment of garlic and pickles? ......Back of a coffee cup. Fresh tomatoes from the garden ?....... Back of a saucer. Canning dill pickles?....Back of a saucer.
    You guys sound like a bunch of pussies whining about your knifes. lol.
    Every time I cut something in the kitchen, I give it a couple swipes with the old saucer. Good enough for me at least.

    Carry on !

    And for reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB8O7w1qPEI
    I think unglazed porcelain is about a 3000. Depending on imperfections

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    Last time I was at an AirBnB I went to town on one of their knives with a series of rocks from the yard. It went from unusable to tolerable. Necessity is the mother and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Last time I was at an AirBnB I went to town on one of their knives with a series of rocks from the yard. It went from unusable to tolerable. Necessity is the mother and all.
    I think I'm going to start taking this with me on holidays.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GiBo View Post
    More than likely me that's off. Patience isn't my strong point.


    1000/6000. An Amazon cheapy like the fishmonger uses.

    I'll give it another go.
    Try a 400 or 600 to start out with, then move up. A 1000 is on the cusp of fine, and if your knives are really dull, you might need to be more aggressive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    My 15deg knives feel sharper than my 20deg but don’t hold an edge as long.

    But that could be a material thing - all my 15s are CS and all my 20s are SS….


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    yeah, carbon gets sharper and dulls faster.

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    If you want to buy an expensive shortcut to absolutely razor sharp blades, buy yourself one of these:

    https://www.worksharptools.com/produ...nife-sharpener

    It brings me great joy.




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    still waiting for DD to chime in and drop some knowledge on us

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    I bought the Ken Onion Worksharp. Adjustable to all angles, dead easy to use. I break it out about 4 times a year and do most of my knives all at once.
    I knew I liked you for a reason. The Worksharp is stupid easy to use and gets your knives stupid sharp. Well, easily sharper than you need for functional kitchen knives anyway. I absolutely love mine and have used it for years.

    Worked for 4 years in a book conservation lab, and as part of that work, I sharpened leather paring knives every day - sharp enough to be able to consistently split veg tanned leather with absolutely no pressure on the knife at all, just guiding it along. Used Japanese water stones to get edges that sharp - and all I can say is, unless you're maintaining your edges every day (lord knows I'm not), there's no real reason to go beyond 3000 grit.

    The Worksharp is 85-90% as good as a full Japanese stone system and 6000 times as convenient.

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