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[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Any DVO experts in here? Still waiting to hear back from DVO, but I think I broke the OTT on my Diamond. It was riding like shit on slow stuff two day ago. Felt like a basketball for a front tire. High speed it's normal. I went to check OTT today so I gave it 1/6 of a turn clockwise and it kinda popped like it was stuck. Now it spins infinitely in either direction. Still has the 6 click per full turn, but there is no end point and it feels like it has almost no OTT when riding.

Is there any way to ghetto hack this by taking the air cart out of the fork, adjusting OTT by hand that way, then putting back together?

[robnow]

Why?
Other than to be more German-ish.

Because I can and kind of want to try something different. Mostly to get rid of the Servowave function for better modulation (rid the on/off feel) and yes, some to have Carbon levers (reduce cold sapping in low temps).

Shimano lever and Magura calipers seems to be another popular mix...also amongst the Germans.


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[Slow 'n Steady]

Haha, I'm in the same boat waiting on my Ripmo V2 frame+fork. Are you waiting on a frameset or complete build? What I've been most tempted by to cancel my order would be a GG Smash. I spoke to GG on the phone today, and they said for frame only orders, they can't sell Fox forks, but they do have some '21 170 36s in stock...

Can someone explain how GG has ‘21 170 36s when Fox specs the ‘21 36s only at 150/160?

[rideit]

Can someone explain how GG has ‘21 170 36s when Fox specs the ‘21 36s only at 150/160?

Because it’s just an air shaft swap?
(A guess)
And manufacturers work with suppliers all the time for proprietary tunes, why not lengths as well?

[Roxtar]

Can someone explain how GG has ‘21 170 36s when Fox specs the ‘21 36s only at 150/160?

Most likely 2020s.

[Slow 'n Steady]

I ordered a Smash a few weeks ago and they “upgraded” me to a 2021 36 170. States exactly that on my receipt. So I guess maybe it is/was a proprietary length like rideit said?

My friends who ride The Smash have both said they prefer 160 on their bikes, so I was planning to try it at 170, with the knowledge I may end up dropping to 160 at some point. But I had been wondering why it was the only ‘21 170 36 I’ve seen out there since they dropped.

[jm2e]

I’ve never ridden a fork at any length and thought, “maybe I’d prefer this if it had less travel...”


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[Slow 'n Steady]

Ha! I’ve never ridden anything above 150 before...so that very well may be the case for me too.

[HAB]

Yeah, Fox isn't selling 170mm 2021 36s aftermarket, but they do non-standard lengths for OE business all the time. It's just a matter of installing a different air shaft, like rideit said.

[Dantheman]

*Dons tinfoil hat*

Fox is limiting aftermarket 36s to 160 mm as a way to sell more 38s?

[Slow 'n Steady]

All that makes sense.

[rideit]

*Dons tinfoil hat*

Fox is limiting aftermarket 36s to 160 mm as a way to sell more 38s?

I can kinda see their reasoning, as you increase length (given the same chassis) you increase flex, it’s the nature of the beast. But (for now) you can still purchase a 170 air shaft to make what you want, which would still be cheaper than a 38.

[Andeh]

Yeah, ever since last year (?) the 29er 36 could go up to 170mm with just an air shaft swap. Fox is just probably trying to steer people towards the 38 now because a) it costs more and b) they will get less people complaining about creaking.

BTW, anyone hoping to get '21 DHX2 from GG, they told me their delivery has been delayed significantly. I switched to an EXT (ordered separately).

[HAB]

Dammit! How recently did you talk to them about the DHX2?

[Slow 'n Steady]

I talked to them Monday of this week and they said ‘21 fox shocks were delayed for a currently indeterminate period of time.

[Roxtar]

I talked to them Monday of this week and they said ‘21 fox shocks were delayed for a currently indeterminate period of time.

EVERYTHING from Fox has been delayed for an indefinite time.

[Andeh]

Dammit! How recently did you talk to them about the DHX2?

Nikki emailed me Monday this week saying they were delayed. She did offer up a discount on an 11-6 instead, but I wanted to try an EXT. EXT-USA is saying about 4-5 week lead time, which matches up with my Smash frame.

[snowday]

Probably stupid question but my search skillz sux: when using tokens in a Pike, whats the general rule for psi? When adding tokens should psi go up or down?

[volklpowdermaniac]

Probably stupid question but my search skillz sux: when using tokens in a Pike, whats the general rule for psi? When adding tokens should psi go up or down?

Theoretically down.

[Roxtar]

Theoretically down.

Yes
Tokens create a more progressive spring rate, ie., it ramps up more as you go deeper in the stroke.
IOW, you can go lower pressure without bottoming out.

[detrusor]

Cane Creek 40 ZS44/28.6 EC44/40 Headset Allow a taper fork as does WOLF TOOTH LOWER HEADSET CUP EXTENDER iirc.

You do change the angles of the bike by raising the front end though.


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[El Chupacabra]

Is a Maxxis Maxxgrip compound an improvement over the Maxxterra compound on a front tire, in dry/rocky/dusty conditions? More grip? Or is it more fragile and/or wears out faster?

I'm looking at the Minion DHF in 27.5 x 2.5 WT EXO casing, FWIW.

[EWG]

Says I am running too soft as well..... (that's what she said)

I normally run 17/19 everyday riding and might go up to 19/21 if racing in super chunk/bike park.

150lbs (total guess haven't been on a scale in years and in better shape than I ever have been)
30lb sled
2.4/2.4 Wild Enduro (these tires fuck)
35mm internal carbon pretty sure hookless
Hard trails

Sram says 22.8/24.2

So pretty damn close and maybe I should try their numbers anyway.

So am I running too soft?
192 lbs
MTB Trail/Enduro
28lbs bike (150mm/150mm travel)
2.4/2.3 Tires (Maxxis DHF/HighRoller2 3C TR EXO 900g tires 2oz of Stans Tubeless)
27mm internal Carbon Hoooked rims.
Dry hardpacked Colorado trails, mostly buff, no rocks to strike.
SRAM Calculator says = 29/33
I normally run 21/24. No burps, no strikes, and if I'm really pushing it I feel the odd rear tire squirm, If I'm going for a fast lap and pushing hard with the boys I'll cheat the rear tire a few more PSI.

I think you are both too soft for sure, but only if you ride rocky stuff and do not enjoy replacing rims.

[EWG]

I’ve never ridden a fork at any length and thought, “maybe I’d prefer this if it had less travel...”


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This

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I actually bumped up to 23/21 psi and it's pretty rad.