Electric car thread

[NBABUCKS1]

the use case is diverse but the sub 100 mile towing makes it hard for MY (me - not other people) use case. Maybe with dc fast charging (pull through!) with >350kw chargers every 25 miles all across the nation might change that...

[NBABUCKS1]

I'm in Lander. The family and I drove to LA in the EV6 last March, and it was easy once we got out of WY. That Evanston EA dc charger changes everything. They just put in fast chargers in Casper and Rawlins, too, opening up trips to the east and to Colorado. We definitely still need more, especially in the Cody area.

We have a diesel Ram 1500 now, and we realize the Ford Lightning won't be able to do everything we need (like Salmon River raft trips in ID with super long shuttles), but we are willing to figure something out when those issues arise. I totally get this doesn't work for everyone.

right on my lil cabin is right across the winds from you in Bondurant and i leave from Ogden to visit almost every weekend in the summer. Just pulled it up it's 197 miles from lander > evanston. I bet you leave lander with 100% lol

It's not feasable in the winter at the moment due to lack of ability to charge once I show up as my last mile is a snowmachine to my place and the place where I park does not have any charging (level 1 or 2).

And honestly evanston > bondurant is pushing it come winter. A strong headwind would really leave me in a tough spot even if I had level 1 or 2 at my destination.

[WMD]

Yeah, the towing range is a bummer. Luckily for us we don't really need to tow. I do think the range is greater than 100 miles, but way less than 200. We need lots more chargers for sure!

[WMD]

Just learned about the Kia EV9 that is coming sometime in 2023. Depending on when that will be available I'm rethinking the Lightning. An EV SUV with fast charging sounds pretty awesome.

[nickwm21]

We’re at an interesting turning point in time; where cost of ownership is at a tipping point. I bet in a few years you are going to have to be allergic to money to buy a gasser as a grocery getter / local commuter.

….but then again… plenty of people are already allergic to money… commuting in full size trucks and SUVs….


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[MontuckyFried]

….but then again… plenty of people are already allergic to money… commuting in full size trucks and SUVs….

Which I still fail to understand. Why the hell somebody chooses to commute to their cubicle for their accounting job in a Ford F-250 Super Duty is beyond me.

[oldnew_guy]

Which I still fail to understand. Why the hell somebody chooses to commute to their cubicle for their accounting job in a Ford F-250 Super Duty is beyond me.

Same reason people buy BMW, Mercedes, etc.

Trucks and large SUV are pretty much luxury vehicles.

[MontuckyFried]

Same reason people buy BMW, Mercedes, etc.

Trucks and large SUV are pretty much luxury vehicles.

It's wild how much they've become so lux over the years. I still find it absurd that people are spending the kind of money they are on pickup trucks. Then they've spent so much on their vehicles that they're afraid to ever get a scratch, a bit of mud, or ever tow with them. As somebody's who had to drive big trucks extensively for work (oilfield related), the LAST thing I'd want to do is choose to drive them for civilian duty. I don't care how much the manufacturers overboost the assisted steering, they still drive like ass. Definitely a compensation thing for many a suburban white collar man who wants to feel like a badass as he towers over traffic on his way to pick to pick up his single bag of mulch from Lowe's, if it ever even gets THAT much action.

[adrenalated]

Which I still fail to understand. Why the hell somebody chooses to commute to their cubicle for their accounting job in a Ford F-250 Super Duty is beyond me.

How else will you know about my enormous dong?

[frorider]

How else will you know about my enormous dong?

Is this a trick question / pickup line?

[Name Redacted]

It's wild how much they've become so lux over the years. I still find it absurd that people are spending the kind of money they are on pickup trucks. Then they've spent so much on their vehicles that they're afraid to ever get a scratch, a bit of mud, or ever tow with them. As somebody's who had to drive big trucks extensively for work (oilfield related), the LAST thing I'd want to do is choose to drive them for civilian duty. I don't care how much the manufacturers overboost the assisted steering, they still drive like ass. Definitely a compensation thing for many a suburban white collar man who wants to feel like a badass as he towers over traffic on his way to pick to pick up his single bag of mulch from Lowe's, if it ever even gets THAT much action.

Agreed, I just want a basic truck with 4wd, decent payload, and towing that isn't built like shit. I bought a F150 XL and it blew up on me. It isn't just about trim. The lower end trucks are lower end all over the vehicle. Oh, and a new XL 4x4 is still ~$47k. WTF?

[jackstraw]

Which I still fail to understand. Why the hell somebody chooses to commute to their cubicle for their accounting job in a Ford F-250 Super Duty is beyond me.

I know a guy who drives an f150 and doesn't know the difference between a flathead and a Phillips screwdriver. He drives big vehicles because he's scared of his own shadow and thinks he's more protected if in an accident.

[Ted Striker]

...drives big vehicles because he's scared of his own shadow and thinks he's more protected if in an accident.

I know about a dozen women who fit that description.

[climberevan]

That whole "big vehicle is safer" myth has been debunked so thoroughly by now that one has to be willfully ignorant to believe it. Those big, tall trucks/SUVs are less safe for their occupants and WAY less safe for other road users and especially cyclists and pedestrians.

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[DBdude]

That whole "big vehicle is safer" myth has been debunked so thoroughly by now that one has to be willfully ignorant to believe it. Those big, tall trucks/SUVs are less safe for their occupants and WAY less safe for other road users and especially cyclists and pedestrians.

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fuck everyone else

[MontuckyFried]

I know a guy who drives an f150 and doesn't know the difference between a flathead and a Phillips screwdriver. He drives big vehicles because he's scared of his own shadow and thinks he's more protected if in an accident.

I know about a dozen women who fit that description.

Haha. Yup! And there ya have it. People think they have to be bigger than everyone else to be safe. I'll take nimble and spritely over an obese, lumbering vehicle every time. I've always felt more "secure" in sportier vehicles where crash AVOIDANCE is easier to achieve.

[nickwm21]

Same reason people buy BMW, Mercedes, etc.

Trucks and large SUV are pretty much luxury vehicles.

No…. That’s what makes it even more incomprehensible… You could spend your $70k on a nice new 5 series. But you decided a 7000# truck was a better idea for the Trader Joe’s parking lot.


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[jackstraw]

No…. That’s what makes it even more incomprehensible… You could spend your $70k on a nice new 5 series. But you decided a 7000# truck was a better idea for the Trader Joe’s parking lot.


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Yeah but...bmw's are driven by assholes. You couldn't pay me to drive a new one.

[nickwm21]

Exchange BMW with Lexus, Acura, Merc, Audi - my point still stands…


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[MontuckyFried]

No…. That’s what makes it even more incomprehensible… You could spend your $70k on a nice new 5 series. But you decided a 7000# truck was a better idea for the Trader Joe’s parking lot.

While I wholly agree with you that it's incomprehensible for you and I to fathom, oldnew_guy is right in that the luxo-truck segment has supplanted (in people's minds at least) the need for a premium brand car. People think their Canyonero can be a Swiss Army Knife vehicle for them. But to ME, that'd be the same as using a Swiss Army Knife as a chef's knife. I'm more of a right tool for the job kinda guy. Use my small car for most family daily duty, take the wagon when bringing the dog to the park or hauling lumber, and for the rare times I actually need a truck, I run to U-Haul/Lowe's/HD and rent one for $20/hour. Not that hard and I'm not stuck driving a big ass pickup truck the other 99.999% of the time of year.

[Core Shot]

That whole "big vehicle is safer" myth has been debunked so thoroughly by now that one has to be willfully ignorant to believe it. Those big, tall trucks/SUVs are less safe for their occupants and WAY less safe for other road users and especially cyclists and pedestrians.

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De boonked? It’s physics. F=MA

But yeah, those big trucks flip over and are harder to steer out of an accident.

A friend had a Jetta bounce off his bumper. Kid died. Suburban fine. 35mph crash.

[Ted Striker]

Driver stereotypes aside, you're actually getting something for your 70k luxury sport sedan. The F series has generated massive profits year over year with very little ongoing investment. It's Ford's money printer.

[Ted Striker]

Hmmm...

[climberevan]

fuck everyone else

'Muhrica in a nutshell.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Hmmm...

That seems like a list of just the most popular vehicles? Do you have one where it breaks it down as deaths/mile driven?

All else equal, the heavier vehicle has an advantage in a collision. And I say this as someone who much prefers driving small cars.