Athletic performance in your 40s?

[Viva]

Took a look- MTI doesn't know shit about training for a 100 miler.

[zion zig zag]

Since there's been on a discussion on "standards" and when to be content with strength rather than push for more, MTI has standards posted. It uses pull ups, squat, deadlift and bench press as standards.

It doesn't adjust for age, but as I get back into shape from a broken arm, it's something I'll consider to set goals for myself.

Their numbers seem high to me, but a good goal nonetheless. I’ve fallen into at least one of their categories my entire adult life and there was probably less than a one year stretch where I could bench press 1.5x my body weight, and it wasn’t during a period where I felt most fit. YMMV.

[Foggy_Goggles]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sqP3nhXw24

Since we kinda do the Super Thread thing

I'm not the expert but this pod speaks to the importance of diet and health. And health is not fitness but its all related.

I live under a pretty big rock. How are Casey Means and Mark Hymen regarded? I try to be pretty aware of those drunk on click and becoming a cult of personality. Is they any info here that is controversial?

[californiagrown]

Their numbers seem high to me, but a good goal nonetheless. I’ve fallen into at least one of their categories my entire adult life and there was probably less than a one year stretch where I could bench press 1.5x my body weight, and it wasn’t during a period where I felt most fit. YMMV.

its a hard/fast go-by, but yeah, its gonna be much easier to hit those strength numbers with a shorter stocky build, than with a lanky build. If youre 5'10" 190lbs vs 6'4" 190lbs thats gonna be a big difference. I also find it odd that for tactical and mountain athletes (folks who are always weighted down with packs or plate carriers) they have a standard for unweighted pullups- it really should be weighted pullups with ~35lbs. IME there is a big difference in how people can perform weighted vs unweighted pullups.

[JimmyCarter]

Oh... and Wim... that nose looks like alcoholism.

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Apparently

https://archive.is/2024.09.28-040510...ence~v1176564/

For Caroline (65) and her children the news was bitter. For them the name Wim Hof is synonymous with years of aggression, physical violence, humiliation, manipulation and – in Caroline’s case – also sexual abuse. They know the Iceman, as Hof calls himself, as a mean drunk with an explosive character and delusions of grandeur. Someone of whom they had to be permanently wary.

[mcski]

Maybe we need a new updated thread called athletic performance in your 60s now?

Bunny is so much better than Scott:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG3Pu...c4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[Self Jupiter]

Thank you, someone needed to post that

[shroom]

so good

[ironhippy]

thats great. I have a mom who ran until she was 70 when she had to get her hip replaced, she still walks her dogs 2+ hours a day at 74.

[bodywhomper]

My mom’s 78. She taught me to ski and did the whole live out of the motorhome during almost all school breaks. She definitely wasn’t dropping cliffs in her early 60’s.

But, she takes daily long walks and does a bunch of daily PT for her feet, hips, shoulder, and neck. Has a new shoulder. She broke a hip in the early 80’s playing soccer with me, but never had a hip replacement. Knees have been good. She stopped skiing about 15 years ago when somebody took her out on a run at Mammoth - broke her helmet and gave a small concussion. She’s still working as a substitute teacher, partly to maintain social connections.

[mcski]

As I close in on that number myself, seeing Scott’s post of her on insta was jaw dropping. Serious shredding at any age. Super inspiring

[J. Barron DeJong]

Unbelievable skiing for a woman in her sixties.











Literally.

[AK47bp]

I find that now Im mid forties my tendons and joints crap out or start getting sharp pains. For those of you still lifting heavy weights (I use mostly dumbbells) do you have any tips?

Instead of increasing weight now I just increase reps but my left elbow seems to give out before my muscles are close to exhausted.

For example the elbow joint gives me the most shit.

When I start getting pain I’ll wear a brace or just take a break from that exercise until it heals, just do push ups or something else for a week or so.




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[californiagrown]

Sounds like tendonitis. Might be a good idea to get it confirmed so you arent pushing hard and further wrecking a joint if there is something structurally going on instead. Its not fun when the doc tells you that you wore away all cartilage and there is nothing they can really do now except replacement (if that is even an option). Tendonitis is a real pain in the ass to deal with, and is a long term thing you have to keep on top of or it will return with a vengance and you go back to square one. You can preexhaust muscles to get to overload quicker and with lighter weight (IE, if your elbow doesnt let you bench press heavy, then do triceps beforehand so that your pecs have to do more of the work on bench instead of loading up your tricep). But also, Icy Hot/TigersBalm/Blue Horse Lotion. There is a reason older powerlifters use the stuff on their joints before and during a training session.

[Dantheman]

What kind of elbow pain? Lateral epicondyle? Medial epicondyle? Triceps tendon? Other? All have different treatment protocols. There's pretty good info online for each but if this is a chronic issue you should see a good PT.

You can try using grips to reduce the strain on your forearms. Dr. Mike advocates for grips for experienced lifters regardless so that grip isn't a limiting factor standing in the way of yer gainz.

There's solid RCT data showing that collagen peptides improve joint pain and function in old fucks. I recommend that pretty much everyone over 40 take a collagen supplement. We'll see how tariffs affect pricing but 10 g/day only costs about $0.30/day (https://www.bulksupplements.com/prod...32133413765231). I also supplement with about 10 g of glycine per day.

This is the best collagen study I'm aware of to date: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/article...20_2243252.pdf

Detailed discussion with the study author runs from 1:25-1:50: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30GvAgubVeY

[Dantheman]

Low dose radiation treatment for tendinopathy also appears to be legit. Discussed in detail here starting at 1:23: https://peterattiamd.com/sanjaymehta/

[dan_pdx]

For what it's worth, I had orthopedic surgery for tricep tendon issues at the end of last year. My triggers were bench, push ups, any kind of paddling where you extend that arm, and all the triceps specific exercises like tricep extensions. If that matches your situation, might be worth getting some imaging. Mine appeared to be exacerbated by a bone spur under the triceps tendon

[EWG]

It wont fix everything but years ago my brother (US Natty Coach) told me that there's a whole lot of stuff that can fixed by stretching it and strengthing it. I have found that to work more often that I can remember.

Reduce the workload a little but keep doing your activity. Stretch around the offending joint to allow everything to move freely. Work the muscles to strengthen them. Try that for a bit. Surprising simple, but has often worked for our clan and it not the type of intervention people usually try.

[bagtagley]

Go see a doc. PT is so worth it and effective even for little stuff, might even help you avoid surgery.

Then find a climbing gym. Won’t help with the pain or injuries but it’s so fun and the functional strength gains are amazing. And you get muscles in cool and interesting places.

[alias_rice]

Anyone have any suggestions for shoulder and elbow pain when throwing? I’m thinking the past 6 or 7 years of throwing batting practice may have finished off my arm.

I lift quite a bit and have no issues, nor do I have any issues golfing or just day to day living. But I just can’t throw a baseball much anymore. I’ll use bands and soft throwing to get loose, but I maybe have 25 throws in me before my arm starts hurting. Usually starts in the shoulder and quickly moves into medial side of the elbow. By 50 throws I’m completely shot and my forearm and hand will go numb. I’m not talking full effort throws either. Probably starting mid to upper 50’s and falling off from there. It’s frustrating because I’m not that far removed from being able to sit there and throw bucket after bucket in the mid 60’s.

[AK47bp]

Thanks for the info guys.

It is the inside of the elbow just above the joint.
It may be tendonitis from what I’m reading. . Getting old sucks.


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[Dantheman]

Anyone have any suggestions for shoulder and elbow pain when throwing? I’m thinking the past 6 or 7 years of throwing batting practice may have finished off my arm. I lift quite a bit and have no issues, nor do I have any issues golfing or just day to day living. But I just can’t throw a baseball much anymore. I’ll use bands and soft throwing to get loose, but I maybe have 25 throws in me before my arm starts hurting. Usually starts in the shoulder and quickly moves into medial side of the elbow. By 50 throws I’m completely shot and my forearm and hand will go numb. I’m not talking full effort throws either. Probably starting mid to upper 50’s and falling off from there. It’s frustrating because I’m not that far removed from being able to sit there and throw bucket after bucket in the mid 60’s.

I got nothing, but numbness is not good at all. You need to see someone.

[Dantheman]

Thanks for the info guys. It is the inside of the elbow just above the joint. It may be tendonitis from what I’m reading. . Getting old sucks.

"Above" the joint meaning distal? That's medial epicondylitis aka Golfer's Elbow.

[californiagrown]

Anyone have any suggestions for shoulder and elbow pain when throwing? I’m thinking the past 6 or 7 years of throwing batting practice may have finished off my arm. I lift quite a bit and have no issues, nor do I have any issues golfing or just day to day living. But I just can’t throw a baseball much anymore. I’ll use bands and soft throwing to get loose, but I maybe have 25 throws in me before my arm starts hurting. Usually starts in the shoulder and quickly moves into medial side of the elbow. By 50 throws I’m completely shot and my forearm and hand will go numb. I’m not talking full effort throws either. Probably starting mid to upper 50’s and falling off from there. It’s frustrating because I’m not that far removed from being able to sit there and throw bucket after bucket in the mid 60’s.

Do you want/need to keep throwing BP? If yes, then go get imaging and work with your ortho to gameplan a PT option and possibly a surgical option if there are significant structural issues. If you are realistically done throwing BP other than the odd weekend your kid cant find a buddy to go hit with, then you need to ask yourself if the pain and time of PT/surgery is really worth it. If you can do everything at full capacity except throw, and you dont really need to throw much anymore, then is the shoulder really a problem? By the same token, is there some structural issue or degeneration that is likely to get worse without surgical or PT intervention? you probably want to intervene.

TLDR: Its best to get imaging and KNOW what is going on in there so that you can make a gameplan. Get professional help.

[riser4]

Im finding aquatic exercise to be dope! Building muscle like i cant really do on dry land. Get yourself to the pool! There are some pretty intense classes out there. And some of the little old ladies have abs of steel and can kick your azz. My back issues are probably 25% of what they used to be even 3 months ago. Im way more flexible than I've been in my entire life. Unfortunately my foot issues are stubborn. Achilles tendonitis, plantar fasciitis, bone spurs on the heel affecting both of those two issues, and some arthritis setting in. FML. Mid 50s. My PT keeps refocusing my attention on my hamstrings.