I’m not saying Christianity correlates with stupidity, but...

**Dantheman** · 06-25-2019, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bromontane

God as a human construct designed to imbue future generations with a respect for the lessons of the past. With the assumption being ppl are too arrogant & stubborn to respect those lessons without relearning them the hard way.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/06/72065...ural-evolution

"But in the last 12,000 years or so, human groups began to expand. It became more difficult to identify and punish the cheaters and free riders. So we needed something big — really big. An epic force that could see what everyone was doing, and enforce the rules. That force, according to social psychologist Azim Shariff, was the popular idea of a "supernatural punisher" – also known as God."

**The AD** · 06-25-2019, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bromontane

Nowadays there's an obsessive focus with disproving the supernatural when the intent and value of religion was always in terms of guiding behavior towards productive ends (family unit to help foster development & social cohesion as an example). It's highly imperfect as a strategy but that's what the more woke religious types reference in terms of defening their choices.

The problem with this is at the end of the day most religions are couching this guiding behavior as something some supernatural being or beings is telling us we should do or else we'll be smote down, not get into heaven, etc.

**Peruvian** · 06-25-2019, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by wooley12

I love that line by the priest in Rudy! . "I really only know that there IS a god and that I'm not him".

Cute line, but replace 'god' with unicorns, pixies, leprechauns, or any other folklore and it's just ridiculous.

**pureantigravity** · 06-25-2019, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

Cute line, but replace 'god' with unicorns, pixies, leprechauns, or any other folklore and it's just ridiculous.

There are archaeological remains that attest to the accuracy of Leprechaun stories?

People have sacrificed their lives for their belief in Leprechauns?

The Romans hung crucified (and still alive) Leprechauns on fire, on street lampposts, all throughout towns to warn others about the dangers of being Leprechauns?

Or maybe it was unicorns you were referring to.

**The AD** · 06-25-2019, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

There are archaeological remains that attest to the accuracy of Leprechaun stories?

There are archeological ruins that attest to the existence of God?

**AK47bp** · 06-25-2019, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

There are archaeological remains that attest to the accuracy of Leprechaun stories?

People have sacrificed their lives for their belief in Leprechauns?

The Romans hung crucified (and still alive) Leprechauns on fire, on street lampposts, all throughout towns to warn others about the dangers of being Leprechauns?

Or maybe it was unicorns you were referring to.

Um brah...,

You’re confusing Jesus with god.

Try to keep up.

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**riser4** · 06-25-2019, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

I assumed he meant gay wedding cakes, Hobby Lobby health insurance, the pro "life" movement....

That covers a good swath of it.

**pureantigravity** · 06-25-2019, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by riser3

That covers a good swath of it.

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

**AK47bp** · 06-25-2019, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

You saying that the only thing that keeps humans from being pieces of shit is faith?

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**AK47bp** · 06-25-2019, 02:24 PM

Well if people need Karma or religion to NOT be pieces of shit, stands to reason they are pieces of shit deep down. If the only thing keeping them civil is an external factor containing their inner self.

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**pureantigravity** · 06-25-2019, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by AK47bp

You saying that the only thing that keeps humans from being pieces of shit is faith?

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Well, if you are faithless, you live in the moment, because tomorrow isn't.
And if you are faithful, you believe that behaviors that reward the common good, and others, tho not own, also will be rewarded or at least advance a cause greater than self.
So ... in a way yes. I think that is arguable. But that's not a point I was making and I don't need to prove it.

I was asking ...

Originally Posted by riser3

That covers a good swath of it.

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

**AK47bp** · 06-25-2019, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

Well, if you are faithless, you live in the moment, because tomorrow isn't.
And if you are faithful, you believe that behaviors that reward the common good, and others, tho not own, also will be rewarded or at least advance a cause greater than self.
So ... in a way yes. I think that is arguable. But that's not a point I was making and I don't need to prove it.

I was asking ...

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

That’s a sad life you live. Can you see how scary it would be to have people with your beliefs in charge of government/public policy?

Ruling the heathens that know no better so you’ll do what’s best.

Detach yourself from yourself to a place of objectivity and think about that for a minute.

I would bet I’ve helped more people in this world than you have and I have zero faith.

And “faithless people live in the moment”. Did you make that up or read it on a Chick Filet cup?

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**glademaster** · 06-25-2019, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

Well, if you are faithless, you live in the moment, because tomorrow isn't.

Jamie Pierre sure pokes (poked?) a hole in that logic.

**PNWbrit** · 06-25-2019, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

I'd assume he means that too.

**Peruvian** · 06-25-2019, 02:39 PM

puregravity is proving OP's hypothesis.

**PNWbrit** · 06-25-2019, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

puregravity is proving OP's hypothesis.

Tomorrow isn't...

What the fuck does he even think he means?

Or was it a Bond movie?

**Peruvian** · 06-25-2019, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Tomorrow isn't...

What the fuck does he even think he means?

Or was it a Bond movie?

Not really sure, but he clearly hasn't read the good book.

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

-Matthew 6:34

**PNWbrit** · 06-25-2019, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by The AD

There are archeological ruins that attest to the existence of God?

Waiting for his answer on that one too. Should be hilarious.

**Buster Highmen** · 06-25-2019, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

Fathers can give their sons an inheritance of houses and wealth, but only the LORD can give an understanding wife. ~Proverbs 19:14

So fuck you all. Ha!

Here I thought it was the drugs and money. Silly me.

**AK47bp** · 06-25-2019, 03:06 PM

And Where’s Wooly?

I asked him what god is and he went AWOL.

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**PNWbrit** · 06-25-2019, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

Fathers can give their sons an inheritance of houses and wealth, but only the LORD can give an understanding wife. ~Proverbs 19:14

So fuck you all. Ha!

**frorider** · 06-25-2019, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Or was it a Bond movie?

You’re thinking of Tomorrow Never Was.

**riser4** · 06-25-2019, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by puregravity

How about fair treatment of prisoners?

How about fair treatment of immigrants?

Carry on.

Current right wing Evangelical crop in power and or giving fuel to the people in power don't give two fucks about either of those items. Actually yes they do. They are hell-bent on making sure that both populations are treated like shit. Which is my point. So called "Christians" are doing more harm than good right now. It's the Billy Graham and Mike Pence crowds.