3D printed houses

[Tye 1on]

Just tripped over this concept. link

Concept home cost $10k to build, goal is $4k. One quote: "we have equipment on Mars, everyone is walking around with a powerful computer in their pocket, and construction techniques haven't changed in 50 years." Imho this is going to take off.

[iceman]

imo it's never gonna be close to $4k - not with windows, wiring, plumbing, roofing, interior finishes (walls, flooring etc.) etc. Not trying to throw cold water on it - I could see the basic structure being in that $4K neighborhood, and what else can you build from scratch for $4K (although repurposing shipping containers would start with an even cheaper structure)?

I do think they could still be a gamechanger at ~$25K complete, which seems feasible. Good luck to them. These were brought up in an another thread as potential housing for the homeless here in this country and considering what we spend on them without even denting the problem that seems like a worthwhile use for the technology too.

[SkiBall]

Get it down to $4K and many will build $16-40K houses. Murica.

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Get it down to $4K and many will charge $16-40K for houses. Murica.

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[DJSapp]

No HVAC, no kitchen, no reinforcing, no thanks. They built a pretty shed. Sure, it works for 3rd world housing issues, but the thing about wood and tarps is they don't crush you to death during the next natural disaster.

They didn't account for the 5k just in the slab pour. But a slick video and talking about 3D printing will keep that VC and government money coming in, so keep talking about the synergy of 3d printing disrupting emerging markets to build a shed faster than Rubbermaid can kick out a plastic one.

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[SkiBall]

When all that recyclable rubbish we send away gets returned to sender, we will need something to do with it.
Maybe we can send the homeless and downtrodden to their own towns built with these materials. A reservation if you will.

[Name Redacted]

My house is built with logs that were 3D printed by nature.

[Bunion 2020]

^^ I chuckled at that one.

Anyone else wonder how $200-400 a Sq ft seems reasonable for stick frame traditional construction?

Or some of the places I see that are north of $900 p/Sq ft.

Watching the video the system seems pretty badass and depending on what the mortar is reinforced with I could see these being pretty freaking strong.

Just the ticket for that 40 acre retreat/old folks community for over 60 ski bums on the beach in a 3rd world country.

Who's in?

[TBS]

Interesting concept but unlikely to work for homeless or 3rd world situations
- I doubt the people living in the tarp/stick houses can afford $4000 for a home
- Land costs around US homeless populations mean you have to go multistory to keep overall unit cost reasonable.

[SkiBall]

Denver did this, so why not?
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/05/...le-homeless-2/

[TBS]

When all that recyclable rubbish we send away gets returned to sender, we will need something to do with it.
Maybe we can send the homeless and downtrodden to their own towns built with these materials. A reservation if you will.

Check out Earthships.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship

There are some really cool places on the Mesa west of Taos
Again, this concept requires cheap land so unlikely to work in urban areas

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i just met someone who has an earthship style home here near me

it is such an interesting THING (as a machine & object), but I think the current owners (not the guy who built it) are a little flummoxed by how individually custom it is...absolutely every system is unique & it's now 30yrs old and starting to show its age in ways that need attention

[Bunion 2020]

My Chiro has one and it was not cheap. land costs not withstanding.

He raves about it though and is building a 2nd one to Air BnB.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Check out Earthships.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship

There are some really cool places on the Mesa west of Taos
Again, this concept requires cheap land so unlikely to work in urban areas

Flashback.. I remember checking some of those places out 20 years ago when my folks lived in Taos. They were awesome. Wifey and I were much more permaculture then versus now, but we lucked out 10 years ago and found a earthberm house with passive solar and we're very happy.

[SkiBall]

Check out Earthships.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship

There are some really cool places on the Mesa west of Taos
Again, this concept requires cheap land so unlikely to work in urban areas

We were going to check them out on the drive home from a trip out there. Then my pup passed in we weren't quite up to it.
Christopher Ryan did a podcast with a guy from there IIRC. Would have to re-visit for memory sake, but I remember liking what they said.
Here is podcast info if anyone is interested:
https://chrisryanphd.com/tangentiall...lds-earthships

[TBS]

My Chiro has one and it was not cheap. land costs not withstanding.

He raves about it though and is building a 2nd one to Air BnB.

Insight into biggest cost factors? Did he do most of the scavenging and labor, or did he hire a bunch out? Is it off the grid, so needs its own power, water and sewerage?

[Bunion 2020]

Hired a set of experts and did some sweat equity himself, scrounged a lot of the materials.

Semi off the grid, has power, water collection from springs, composting toilet and gray water disposal field.

Seemed to me that the prime driving cost was labor but the place IS very nice.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

If we go forward with a MIL/VRBO unit, it will be a grain bin.

[nickwm21]

Once they have a 3D printer that can print steel, copper, plastic, glass, concrete, bitumen, fiberglass, and silicon on one pass, let me know.


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[Micol]

We were going to check them out on the drive home from a trip out there. Then my pup passed in we weren't quite up to it.
Christopher Ryan did a podcast with a guy from there IIRC. Would have to re-visit for memory sake, but I remember liking what they said.
Here is podcast info if anyone is interested:
https://chrisryanphd.com/tangentiall...lds-earthships

sorry bout your pup.... vibes

[iceman]

You could buy one of these for $5K today: https://www.amazon.com/Lillevilla-Es...ustomerReviews

Yeah it's missing little things like a kitchen and bath and wiring and plumbing but what do you want for nothing, a rubber biscuit?

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You could buy one of these for $5K today: https://www.amazon.com/Lillevilla-Es...ustomerReviews

Yeah it's missing little things like a kitchen and bath and wiring and plumbing but what do you want for nothing, a rubber biscuit?

wow, the "products related to this item" list of things is amazing

[muted]

You could buy one of these for $5K today: https://www.amazon.com/Lillevilla-Es...ustomerReviews

Yeah it's missing little things like a kitchen and bath and wiring and plumbing but what do you want for nothing, a rubber biscuit?

"When I contacted the seller with my issues they said I'm the only one who had ever had this problem "

What not to say to a customer. I heard this last week, I was told I was the first customer to crash their software. Yeah, no.

[MarcusBrody]

^^ I chuckled at that one.

Anyone else wonder how $200-400 a Sq ft seems reasonable for stick frame traditional construction?

Or some of the places I see that are north of $900 p/Sq ft.

Where are you? 400 per square foot is $800,000 for a standard 2000 sq.ft. house. Probably true in some markets, but on the high side for most of America. 900/sq.ft is 1.8 million for a pretty standard sized house.

I agree with TBS and some others though. Small unit construction isn't ever really going to be an ideal solution to homelessness as it doesn't work well with economies of scale in land/materials/anything. Even if they get the price down, is it really going to be cheaper than just building with cinder blocks in a lot of places after all the extra costs are factored in?

[iceman]

well that's where the shipping containers come in