The FIFTY

[byates1]

how many min of that video is spent talking about how recent the tires/rotors/valve body/parking brake hardware/shift cable/cooling fan/radiatior/brake pads/coolant flush/trans flush/ oil etc?

how many min?

[byates1]

simply not true. even from an insurance standpoint it's not true.
Sounds like you did shoddy work and dropped the value of your van is what it sounds like. And your 4 back to back posts don't make you sound bitter at all.

Newsflash. People will pay more for stuff that they want in addition to what they just 'need'.

i have a 2016 2500 promaster, bought at 34k, now at 145k. it's fwd box on wheels. books at 9k. spend whatever time and money you want making it as cute as you want.

[paulster2626]

how many min of that video is spent talking about how recent the tires/rotors/valve body/parking brake hardware/shift cable/cooling fan/radiatior/brake pads/coolant flush/trans flush/ oil etc?

how many min?

Yes, while seeing the badass solar array with electrical hook-ups and wood stove with the cute little logs, all I could think of was "PLEASE SHOW ME THE PARKING BRAKE CABLE AND COOLANT FLUSH HISTORY!"

[alpinevibes]

how many min of that video is spent talking about how recent the tires/rotors/valve body/parking brake hardware/shift cable/cooling fan/radiatior/brake pads/coolant flush/trans flush/ oil etc?

how many min?

Video wasn’t made/posted as part of the sale, it was a “van tour”

And surely with your van life knowledge you’ve seen people piles of money on something they think is cool/custom/unique. I think Bjarnes price is in line for the market, especially with COVID pushing demand for vans/RVs.


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[whyturn]

People will pay what they pay. There also the celebrity factor for some

Anyone looking for spatulas


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[powdork]

An example of prices
https://www.rvtrader.com/Dodge-Ram-P...ER%7C764970750

[chaka]

why the hate? its a nicely done van, apparently well cared for and in great shape. unlike many 'off the shelf' plans, its been thoughtfully designed to meet the needs of an outdoor junkie/skier and someone who needs to do work from remote places. Price? if it matches your needs, its fairly priced for the market, if its overkill for your needs, don't buy it. This van is far away from the trust fund #vanlife way overbuilt more than a mortgage payment nonsense bucket in my opinion.

[simple]

Because $67k is 4x4 Sportsmobile with the PSD money. Not a bread box with a wood stove. New school van lifers don't know the difference.

[yeahman]

The wood stove is kind of a novelty, but for daily use I'd prefer a simple propane heater. Turn it on, climb back in the sleeping bag while the place warms up. Who wants to start a fire every morning just to get a little heat?

But the van itself is a pretty cool functional work of art if you want to spend your money on that. Shit, I know a doctor who spent almost 100k on his Sprinter, so 67k isn't out of line. It is funny for me to see people spending that kind of money to live out of a van. I've had two vans and three RV/campers and never spent more than 10k on any of them, usually far less. But that's not really the point. Some people have money and if they want something like this then more power to them. Hopefully Bjarne makes a good profit to further fund his lifestyle and make more videos for us to watch, which I wholeheartedly approve of.

[TahoeJ]

Jeez, what a fucking buzz kill turn for this thread. Van is cool and he did a great job with it. Now it's for sale. Get over it.

[plugboots]

Jeez, what a fucking buzz kill turn for this thread. Van is cool and he did a great job with it. Now it's for sale. Get over it.

No shit. I shouldn’t have mentioned it was for sale.

[doebedoe]

The wood stove is kind of a novelty, but for daily use I'd prefer a simple propane heater. Turn it on, climb back in the sleeping bag while the place warms up. Who wants to start a fire every morning just to get a little heat?
....

There a real benefits to a wood stove over a propane heater. Propane is wet heat. Wood stove is dry heat. Makes all the difference in something like a van in winter. Diesel makes the most sense for dry, easy-to-use heat.

Source: Spent a lot of winter nights dealing with condensation of propane heater in a van.

[simple]

Hopefully you learned something. I've got TWO propane heaters in the van and I get nearly zero condensation. Ventilation is key.

You might be the guy with the Sienna minivan?

[doebedoe]

Hopefully you learned something. I've got TWO propane heaters in the van and I get nearly zero condensation. Ventilation is key.

You might be the guy with the Sienna minivan?

My winter camping experience is in an Astro so far. I do have a sienna minivan.

Yes -- you can ventilate. But pretending there aren't differences between the two types of heat and the considerations they require isn't accurate.

[ThreeRidges]

I’m not going to opine on the asking price, but it strikes me as a pretty well-thought build out. A lot of good ideas there given limited space. Also, if you get the propane heater that vents outside, does that solve the condensation issue?


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[simple]

Nobody is pretending. There are pros and cons to each. You decided to be the expert voice but you are just one of many part time users.

Yes a propane furnace with vent helps significantly. Suburban is one common brand.

[North]

Propane is wet heat.

This is a blanket statement. Yes, water is a byproduct of propane combustion (it is also a byproduct of wood combustion). No, not all propane heaters put combustion byproducts into the heated air stream. Propex, Webasto, etc are direct vent heat exchangers, meaning intake, combustion, and exhaust are all external processes. The internal air is warmed by a heat exchanger. No water added to your car.

A wood stove pulls interior air for combustion and exhausts outside. That warm interior air holds more moisture than cold outside air. So woodstoves consume and exhaust the wet interior air, and warm the space. Direct vent heaters warm the wet interior air, but do not consume and exhaust it hence the need for air changes (ventilation). Both are good options for winter vehicle living. Open element propane heaters (Mr. Buddy) exhaust into the living space, making things wet. OK in a pinch, but not a real solution.

Also, if you get the propane heater that vents outside, does that solve the condensation issue?

Condensation depends on many factors. Do you cook inside? That will add condensation. So will breathing. IME wood stoves are the best at removing moisture for reasons explained above but less practical than on/off direct vent heaters.

/endrant. Take it to the RV thread please.

[North]

Diesel makes the most sense for dry, easy-to-use heat.

A direct vent diesel heater is no different in principle than a direct vent propane heater. Same external process, different fuel.

Neither of them will have a measurable impact on whether or not Cody skis Robson or Elias though.

/endendrant

[chaka]

Take it to the RV thread please.

+1000

[splitter]

If you look at the time stamp, dude just got drunk and feisty late last night. It happens. Haters gonna hate.


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[byates1]

^ i was up watching china, but yeah it's summer. both bjarne and cody are legit as fuck, no disrespect meant. should have been in the ski rv thread. werd

[bodywhomper]

I liked the van. I’ve lived full time in an rv (‘81 pace arrow) many times as a grub with my folks and a dog, including through many Sierra blizzards. He had some interesting ideas with that van. It was never discussed, but I’m curious about his winter traction system.

[alpinevibes]

I liked the van. I’ve lived full time in an rv (‘81 pace arrow) many times as a grub with my folks and a dog, including through many Sierra blizzards. He had some interesting ideas with that van. It was never discussed, but I’m curious about his winter traction system.

That was my thought too. But he wasn’t going anywhere crazy that snows/studs/chains couldn’t control. I’m guessing he’s upgrading to 4wd or AWD setup


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[powdork]

A front wheel drive promaster with good winter tires can get through just about anything except chain control

[bodywhomper]

From running a fwd sienna in tahoe and the western sierra with snow tires for a few seasons, they're great except going up steep slick grades, especially from a stop.

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