Moment Skis Discussion

[possum]

I have DWTs with shifts, but everytime I’m in the BC I wish I could ski my DW Pivot 15s. Tour cores are just not enough for my size me thinks

Going to start working on that handshake to see if I can get some Casts mounted on some new DWs

[meter-man]

Well crap, have I been doing this wrong…

Moment will mount based on your BSL and ship?

Ah, good question. I live locally so they do it all in-house. But I bet if you sent them your ski boot, they would do it. Worth a call to see if they would sans boot.

[scmartin69]

Ah, good question. I live locally so they do it all in-house. But I bet if you sent them your ski boot, they would do it. Worth a call to see if they would sans boot.

I would second the sending in of boot. Otherwise, bad juju... But the super duper secret handshake might suffice, ymmv.

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[Pete.]

Don't do it - yer
But seriously - skip the Shifts. Moment will mount up Pivots/CAST for you - do that.

I see the appeal to the pivots but then I’d hafta buy new boots too (currently on maestrale rs). I don’t wanna.

[meter-man]

I see the appeal to the pivots but then I’d hafta buy new boots too (currently on maestrale rs). I don’t wanna.

See this on using 9523 boots (like the Maestrale) with Pivot/Cast. https://www.momentskis.com/products/...e-gripwalk-wtr

Or Duke PT.

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[Pete.]

Yeah I have shifts on my benchetler 120s which I only pull out on the deepest days both resort and touring. Wife uses shifts too on her 80/20 resort skis. They are not perfect but we find they are good enough.

I had a pair of DWs w/ Shifts for my travel ski last couple years... Still torn, hate the binders, love the versatility (and the ski, of course). That said, I have P15s and Cast on the workbench for new DWs next year.

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[Pete.]

See. This is why I need you guys.

See this on using 9523 boots (like the Maestrale) with Pivot/Cast. https://www.momentskis.com/products/...e-gripwalk-wtr

Or Duke PT.

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[rfconroy]

currently on maestrale rs

You're going to blow that boot up driving a commander in the resort - its stiff, but its not overly durable.

[eSock]

Got a few runs on the new blades

[PNW-skier78]

Anyone been on the current version of the wildcats? If so how do they compare to the OG Bibbies?


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[SnakeMagnet]

Anyone been on the current version of the wildcats? If so how do they compare to the OG Bibbies?


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Well I can't make a direct comparison but my experience with them lines up with the nostalgic circlejerk, as in really fucking good. From what I read the weight is back, flex is back, shape unchanged. The core change sure as shit improved things.

[lemonhead]

Anyone been on the current version of the wildcats? If so how do they compare to the OG Bibbies?


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This has been discussed by Melee a bunch. They have the same og weight with a better construction.

[Falcon3]

Blem sale on! Lots of stock and pretty good deals. Good thing they don’t have a DW104 in 184 or I’d be $600 poorer.

[soul_skier]

This has been discussed by Melee a bunch. They have the same og weight with a better construction.

Thing you need to keep an eye on is the mount point. I'd love for the moment team to chime in here but lining up 190 bibbys (purple wolf topsheet) with 190 wildcats (spaceman topsheet) showed that the suggested mount point had shifted by more than a CM.

[Melee]

Thing you need to keep an eye on is the mount point. I'd love for the moment team to chime in here but lining up 190 bibbys (purple wolf topsheet) with 190 wildcats (spaceman topsheet) showed that the suggested mount point had shifted by more than a CM.

The mount point has not changed from Wildcat/Bibby.

Let me make this clear:

Its the exact same ski with better materials and construction.

Almost identical weight.

Stop reading into it.

[caulfield]

Blem sale on! Lots of stock and pretty good deals. Good thing they don’t have a DW104 in 184 or I’d be $600 poorer.

they have those in the "double left graphic" configuration. hope someone cool got the 184cm OGV3!

[Melee]

Blem sale on! Lots of stock and pretty good deals. Good thing they don’t have a DW104 in 184 or I’d be $600 poorer.

https://www.momentskis.com/collectio...hwish-104-blem

All blem skis listed here: https://www.momentskis.com/collections/blem-sale

[bodywhomper]

Total jong question(s):
Playful charger between 100-110: bibby 108? I’ve been on normal bibby 184 tele for a while. Love them as playful chargers for 3D resort tahoe snow. Looking for something similar but narrower when there’s more 2d than 3D snow.

[MAST3RSHAK3]

Anybody in Mammoth? A pair of 184 wildcats with Warden 13 bindings for $200

Not mine just a deal

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Mamm...95323083827540

[Pinned]

Total jong question(s):
Playful charger between 100-110: bibby 108? I’ve been on normal bibby 184 tele for a while. Love them as playful chargers for 3D resort tahoe snow. Looking for something similar but narrower when there’s more 2d than 3D snow.

I have both the WC and WC108. The WC108 is slightly shorter radius, slightly softer, and obviously a little bit lighter. It's easier to ski on firmer snow. It still cuts through chop well and does well at speed. While I really like my WC108 it is similar enough to the full size WC that I am curious about the WC101 or DW104 instead.

[bodywhomper]

I have both the WC and WC108. The WC108 is slightly shorter radius, slightly softer, and obviously a little bit lighter. It's easier to ski on firmer snow. It still cuts through chop well and does well at speed. While I really like my WC108 it is similar enough to the full size WC that I am curious about the WC101 or DW104 instead.

Thanks. Appreciate the input/feedback. Obviously, i meant wildcat108

I need to more closely consider the DW 104. I missed that there’s a wc101. Will consider that too

[Brasso]

Before it's asked about, here's the lowdown on DW104 vs WC108, straight from Moment themselves.

Spring skiing is here, and with more low tide days than deep ones, we’ve all been hanging up the pow skis and looking for something a bit more suited to the conditions at hand. As much as we’d like to think it’s all pow—firm morning groomers, hunting windbuff as things warm up, and some slushy corn laps to close it out is what this time of year is all about. That’s where these two skis really shine, which is why the question we’ve gotten more than any other this year is: Should I get the Deathwish 104 or the Wildcat 108?
We may as well lay it all out for you so you’ll stop asking (you won’t):
The Wildcat 108 is a bit softer and with its deeper rocker lines and wider waist is the surfier, more playful of the two. Perfect for throwing around on the snake run, tossing through steep bumps, and wide enough to make that deep corn feel like hot pow. The Deathwish 104 on the other hand is stiffer, damper and being a touch narrower, is quicker edge to edge, offers more grip in varying conditions and is a bit more planted and locked in due to its Triple Camber profile. Ideal for rippin’ roy in the morning and hunting windbuff or zippering bump lines in the north bowls come afternoon.
If you’re looking for a playful ski that will still let you plow through crud and chop, snipe every side hit and spin slushy butters the whole way down, then you want the Wildcat 108.
If you’re someone that’s going to charge a bit harder and lay some serious trenches regardless of how firm or soft things are but are still after a twin that you can throw sideways in a pinch—well then you may just need a Deathwish 104 in your life.
Oh and ladies, before you glaze over and leave these two skis just for the guys, remember, anything they can ski, you can ski better. When we say they’re the factory favorites, we aren’t just talking about the grunge squad in the grindroom.

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[Kevo]

Before it's asked about, here's the lowdown on DW104 vs WC108, straight from Moment themselves...

Interesting. The WC is so much more ski than the DW. Interesting that for the narrow variants, the WC108 is softer than the DW104. I'm intrigued by the idea of a softer WC...

I have the WC, DW and DW104 and the DWT.

WC is definitely the most damp and is the stiffest of the four. It busts through crud and is the most stable at speed. It generally wants to be skied faster than the DW. It pivots easily, but requires more energy than the DW to bend into a tighter than sidecut turn radius.

DW is the softest and the easiest to ski in tight places. It's the most maneuverable of the three. It pivots even easier than the WC and effortlessly contorts into whatever turn shape you want to make. Not a noodle, but has a speed limit for me (200lbs) in crud. It's the most forgiving of the three.

DWT is a less damp and lighter DW.

DW 104 is a stiffer, more narrow DW. I'd also say slightly less damp. It is more stable at speed for me than the DW and a lot lighter. It carves better and stays locked on an edge better that the DW. It's also more stable at speed than the the DW- I haven't found a speed limit. It needs to be driven a little more than the DW in tight spots.

[eSock]

Chipotle blades had a rough go on a chute off chair 6 today [emoji24] only their second day out.

[scmartin69]

Chipotle blades had a rough go on a chute off chair 6 today [emoji24] only their second day out.

Unlikely to affect how they ski and kudos as chutes off of chair 6 are above my pay (blade) grade.

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