Moment Skis Discussion

[mc_roon]

https://www.sportsplusdenver.com/col...bindings-f8af7

https://www.sportsplusdenver.com/col...bindings-07ed4

not my listings, but decent deals

[NorCalNomad]

These two #triplecamber machines

[Flippo]

I just mounted the bindings on my Deathwish and found that the base were concave on both skis. Not my pic but it’s basically like this. How much is too much? What would you recommend? Stone grind? Check with Moment folks if I should stop by Reno?

[tpacent]

I've said it for years, Moment is missing the mark on the EC. I've got a Dave Wise Transition that I need to mount up for Low Tide.

I’d love a pair of transitions but not sure if I’d find any. Also not sure if they made that ski in a 185+ length. 179/180 too short.

[BC.]

I just mounted the bindings on my Deathwish and found that the base were concave on both skis. Not my pic but it’s basically like this. How much is too much? What would you recommend? Stone grind? Check with Moment folks if I should stop by Reno?

Pm incoming….see the same thing with my true bar…/ can tell something is not quite right during my wax/scrape as I prep them to ski. (Iron is catching on the edges/wax is not melting as it should in certain “concave” spots….as the iron is riding on the edges/instead of gliding smoothly on base.)

Gonna bring to Stowe this weekend to test them out..….I’m hoping they rip like my C98’s.

I’ll wait to ski them before contacting Moment…

[joeshek]

I just mounted the bindings on my Deathwish and found that the base were concave on both skis. Not my pic but it’s basically like this. How much is too much? What would you recommend? Stone grind? Check with Moment folks if I should stop by Reno?

Saw the same thing on my new WC108s - started an email thread with Moment asking for specs, and them picture in a follow-up. Looks just like yours - it's there, but seemingly not egregious. Curious what you find out.

[PeachesNCream]

DW 104 vs reg DW for 2 ski quiver in north idaho. I've read the DW104 is slightly more damp, does it lose any playfulness with that dampness? Any other noticeable differences in the two skis besides obvious width differences?

[doebedoe]

DW 104 vs reg DW for 2 ski quiver in north idaho. I've read the DW104 is slightly more damp, does it lose any playfulness with that dampness? Any other noticeable differences in the two skis besides obvious width differences?

What's the other ski? If your other ski is larger, than DW104 for sure.

Any loss in playfulness due to dampness isn't noticeable IMHO because you're on a smaller more agile platform.

[soul_skier]

Will the Donner Party ever make an appearance in the reserve section?

[PeachesNCream]

What's the other ski? If your other ski is larger, than DW104 for sure.

Any loss in playfulness due to dampness isn't noticeable IMHO because you're on a smaller more agile platform.

Other ski currently is a Protest but I'm thinking of switching to something I can use more days. Thinking billy goat, jeffery 116/118, mfree 118.

I spend most of my time charging in chop or finding pow stashes and side hits in trees and wondering which deathwish will do better here. I have the deathwish tour as my touring sticks and love it in trees, in chop not so much, makes sense. Assuming regular layup will greatly improve the chop performance and just deciding between the two widths

[doebedoe]

Other ski currently is a Protest but I'm thinking of switching to something I can use more days. Thinking billy goat, jeffery 116/118, mfree 118.

I spend most of my time charging in chop or finding pow stashes and side hits in trees and wondering which deathwish will do better here. I have the deathwish tour as my touring sticks and love it in trees, in chop not so much, makes sense. Assuming regular layup will greatly improve the chop performance and just deciding between the two widths

I dont think an OG DW makes much sense with a BG / Jeffrey / mfree.

The 104 is noticeably better on the groomed and bumps. I'd say "chop" is a wash because you have less width/mass in the 104, but a bit stiffer build. Which is better in chop i'd say depends on the chop in question...3in of high density == 104, 6in of medium density == OG.

I was surprised at how well my 104s held up to cream cheese over trash at Silver a week ago. Despite being in the shorter length (I don't love skiing 190s when hauling sleds).

[Melee]

Will the Donner Party ever make an appearance in the reserve section?

Some days we consider it....definitely not this winter.

[thefortrees]

I dont think an OG DW makes much sense with a BG / Jeffrey / mfree.

The 104 is noticeably better on the groomed and bumps. I'd say "chop" is a wash because you have less width/mass in the 104, but a bit stiffer build. Which is better in chop i'd say depends on the chop in question...3in of high density == 104, 6in of medium density == OG.

I was surprised at how well my 104s held up to cream cheese over trash at Silver a week ago. Despite being in the shorter length (I don't love skiing 190s when hauling sleds).

Brundo - x2 to Doebedoe’s assessment of the DW 104. It should fit that spot in your quiver nicely. Go 190 if a lot of your skiing is more open terrain, 184 if you are at slower speeds in tight trees. I’m on the 190, I sometimes get behind it in firm bumps and the ski lets me know I’m being a b*tch

I’ve got the WC 108 too and it hasn’t seen snow at all this January… the DW 104 carves way mo betta than the WC 108

[NorCalNomad]

Some days we consider it....definitely not this winter.

Lets all hope for another miracle March like the one 3 years ago

[kid-kapow]

Yes! We haven't had skis in the FWT since Craig and the Garbones.

Lilly is awesome! Can't wait to see what she does on the tour this year.

Also, Tyler Curle got 2nd in Revy at the 4* FWT stop. Kicking Horse up next!

man, the women's field so a lot of carnage, but still - it is pretty damn awesome to see Commanders on the podium!

Here's to seeing some action on the mens' side of things in the future, not leave the shredding to the ladies!

[PeachesNCream]

Brundo - x2 to Doebedoe’s assessment of the DW 104. It should fit that spot in your quiver nicely. Go 190 if a lot of your skiing is more open terrain, 184 if you are at slower speeds in tight trees. I’m on the 190, I sometimes get behind it in firm bumps and the ski lets me know I’m being a b*tch

I’ve got the WC 108 too and it hasn’t seen snow at all this January… the DW 104 carves way mo betta than the WC 108

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

[lemonhead]

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

Seems like 190 for sure at that height and weight unless you regularly size down.

[doebedoe]

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

I'm 6'2" / 180. I'm on the 184 mostly because i end up skiing a lot of bumps and regularly with a sled.

If i was freeskiing them all the time i'd go 190 I think. But i don't think the 184s would be way too short.

[undertow2]

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

Brundo,

I am 6’4” and 210 and am finally clicking with the 190 DW 104 and no Fing way would I want to go shorter…. It is fast edge to edge and holds an edge like a mother… I think it is a breeze to ski and bumps are no issue…. Have not had them in trees but would have no worries as I think the DW skis short with the mount point and major kicked up tail…. Shit I wish it came in a 193…. No way would I want to go 184…


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[BC.]

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

I’m 6’1 200lbs…..even in trees, I’ve never really considered downsizing….cuz these ski/blast so well on/through everything else.

-188 C98
-191 Katana
-190 DW (haven’t skied yet, but assuming they will be great….lol)

[TeleBeaver]

I ski more tight trees than open terrain but I'm 6'3, 200lbs. Still think 184?

I ski the regular deathwish at 5'11" 175lbs and have never felt the 190 is too long. They ski pretty short. Have no trouble in west coast tight trees. East coast woods would be a different story

[PeachesNCream]

Thanks all, I'll be on the lookout this summer for some 190s or maybe just buy some 2022s over the summer. I've got the DWTs in a 190 and wish I would have gone 184 (anyone want to size up?) but for touring I'm always in the trees, never in chop, and rarely rarely in the wide open, plus it'd save some weight. I agree that the 190 is the right move for resort tho

[ejj]

A few folks have mentioned having a concave base/other finishing issues with new Moments. I just picked up some DW104s--do I need to have the shop grind and do the bevels straight away? I confess I didn't even look at the bases when they arrived.

[Flippo]

A few folks have mentioned having a concave base/other finishing issues with new Moments. I just picked up some DW104s--do I need to have the shop grind and do the bevels straight away? I confess I didn't even look at the bases when they arrived.

I would not do it without checking. My other pairs of moment had a great factory tune.

[davjr96]

A few folks have mentioned having a concave base/other finishing issues with new Moments. I just picked up some DW104s--do I need to have the shop grind and do the bevels straight away? I confess I didn't even look at the bases when they arrived.

My DW104s were perfect out of the box, but always check no matter the ski/manufacturer IMO.