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Thread: 2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

  1. #1651
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    My flex 3 182 UL GPOs weigh 2010g with SSL 2.0s and B&D leashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    Yup, you helped me make peace with not going after UL GPOs, unless I get the inspiration to see what a softer flex is like in BC snow. If that's the case, then all bets are off, and UL/Veneer ... here we come.

    When I weighed those Steeples, I was quite taken aback. On an archived page on evo.com, the stated weight for the 179, 102 Steeples was in line with the weight of your skis.

    2100g (+Vipecs) is a lot of weight for my sorry, fat ass to drag around, and when I finally get out this year, it may inspire me to put some uber light binders on them (worth about 400g per foot).

    If I were to do that, then they'd have 26 unused holes on each ski, but who's counting (@splat would be proud of me).

    I'll likely keep them as is, for short tours in difficult (but not deep) snow. They might be a good travel ski as well (in combination with my GPOs, etc.).



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    Haaa, i think we've found out how yours are lighter than mine. Speed holes ftw!!

    "I'll likely keep them as is, for short tours in difficult (but not deep) snow. They might be a good travel ski as well (in combination with my GPOs, etc.)"
    ^^this. Good for the spring pow days when the sidehilling skintracks suck with a wider pow touring ski too

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    My flex 3 182 UL GPOs weigh 2010g with SSL 2.0s and B&D leashes.

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    Thats pretty reasonable. Mine are flex 4. I think i could like a flex 3 with veneer. Lighter , and more damp. Cant hurt to dream but mine are fine strictly for pow touring

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    I just want to say my veneer flex 4 187 UL gpo’s are really good. Really good. If they were 182 they might be even a tiny bit better. But really.


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    Just chiming in to say the Concept is a ridiculously great ski. Got out on them today for the first time in about a year and had forgotten how rad they are. Carry on.


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    Has any one here that's skied the BC played with the mount point at all? I've been on it a couple seasons now and while I like where I'm at when conditions are good, it seems that once the snow gets sticky/crusty that the tails tend to stay locked in and are more difficult to break loose. I was thinking of maybe bumping forward 1-1.5cms. It might be that I'd be happier with something that has a little more tail splay/rocker (Wildcat Tour 108) but just looking for input before drilling more holes or going a different route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar View Post
    Has any one here that's skied the BC played with the mount point at all? I've been on it a couple seasons now and while I like where I'm at when conditions are good, it seems that once the snow gets sticky/crusty that the tails tend to stay locked in and are more difficult to break loose. I was thinking of maybe bumping forward 1-1.5cms. It might be that I'd be happier with something that has a little more tail splay/rocker (Wildcat Tour 108) but just looking for input before drilling more holes or going a different route.
    I have trouble believing those tails would be locked in. How sharp are they from the taper point back to the tail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayItLeo View Post
    Just chiming in to say the Concept is a ridiculously great ski. Got out on them today for the first time in about a year and had forgotten how rad they are. Carry on.


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    What build do you have them in?

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    Thom - I’ve ran over them a handful of times with a gummy stone like I do with all my skis. No aggressive detuning though.

    They’re the stock build - UL, Flex 3.

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    I detune the piss out of anything in front/behind the middle of the taper and rocker points then feather to effective edge. I dont want to take away from any of the design and put something that will catch(edge) where its designed to break free. Maybe im missing something though.
    For mount points i like suggested on all the praxis touring skis(bc, yeti and exp) where most of the others im at -1. I havent tried it but i could see my self trying them a bit forward if anything. I didnt like the mounts that i tried behind recommdended on the bc or exp.

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    Usps are killing me. I want my skis! /venting

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinch View Post
    I detune the piss out of anything in front/behind the middle of the taper and rocker points then feather to effective edge. I dont want to take away from any of the design and put something that will catch(edge) where its designed to break free. Maybe im missing something though.
    ^^^ what @grinch says ^^^

    A gummy is merely a "suggestion" of a detune with Praxis. Hit 'em hard with a Mill Bastard file at 45 degrees, easing up on the angle as you approach the taper point.

    At about that point, the round over transitions into a detune ("feather" - slightly rounded) and continues for an inch or two into the effective edge region.

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    Sweet, I’ll get to it and see how they feel. Thanks.

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    Have a protest mounted up with KP's for inbounds/slackcountry pow skiing....

    It isn't the most fun after the first hour of skiing and stuff starts getting chopped up...but I don't love to do a full ski switch to my Husume's... do I need GPO's....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha_SP View Post
    Have a protest mounted up with KP's for inbounds/slackcountry pow skiing....

    It isn't the most fun after the first hour of skiing and stuff starts getting chopped up...but I don't love to do a full ski switch to my Husume's... do I need GPO's....
    Yes. Go veneer, will help with dampness in cut up pow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar View Post
    Sweet, I’ll get to it and see how they feel. Thanks.
    Good luck. It seems to work most times. Not the loosest ski but i found it pivots fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    Usps are killing me. I want my skis! /venting
    Seriously, canada post get facked, missing stuff from November.

    Excited to see how you like those mvps

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Seriously, canada post get facked, missing stuff from November.

    Excited to see how you like those mvps
    I'm excited to get on them, especially now that we don't have to ski out on rocks and grass. Usps says they flew or left LAX on the 17th and that's the last time it updated. I'm hoping they're at least with customs at this point. Patience is hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha_SP View Post
    Have a protest mounted up with KP's for inbounds/slackcountry pow skiing....

    It isn't the most fun after the first hour of skiing and stuff starts getting chopped up...but I don't love to do a full ski switch to my Husume's... do I need GPO's....
    I’ve found if you just tip them rather than hitting chop flat protests are fine

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    Got my reverse camber FRS ULs out in some proper pow today. They did not disappoint. Playful and poppy, quite surfy, plenty of float even on low angle (~25-30 degree slopes). Keith did a good job with this ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar View Post
    Got my reverse camber FRS ULs out in some proper pow today. They did not disappoint. Playful and poppy, quite surfy, plenty of float even on low angle (~25-30 degree slopes). Keith did a good job with this ski.
    How much extra did it cost you to get reverse cambered FRS? I would love to try a reverse cambered ski made by Keith, but all of the stock options are super wide, and so far I've stuck to this forum's mantra, which is to avoid messing with Keith's designs unless you know exactly what you're doing. Would love to see how a ~110 mm underfoot, reverse camber Praxis ski would do as a daily driver in the PNW though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powder_to_the_people View Post
    How much extra did it cost you to get reverse cambered FRS? I would love to try a reverse cambered ski made by Keith, but all of the stock options are super wide, and so far I've stuck to this forum's mantra, which is to avoid messing with Keith's designs unless you know exactly what you're doing. Would love to see how a ~110 mm underfoot, reverse camber Praxis ski would do as a daily driver in the PNW though.
    If Keith ever did a run of reverse camber 109 MVPS I would be very interested. They barely have any camber as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powder_to_the_people View Post
    How much extra did it cost you to get reverse cambered FRS? I would love to try a reverse cambered ski made by Keith, but all of the stock options are super wide, and so far I've stuck to this forum's mantra, which is to avoid messing with Keith's designs unless you know exactly what you're doing. Would love to see how a ~110 mm underfoot, reverse camber Praxis ski would do as a daily driver in the PNW though.
    I kinda lucked out and hit him up while they were still pressing them for production last winter and he took the camber out no charge. They do a custom ski sale every spring so you’d be best holding off until then.

    ^Also the FRS is basically a +10mm MVP and think that reverse on the stock MVP would be a great shape for a west coast ski.

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    Side note, they’re doing a pow ski sale right now on the website. GPO, RX, FRS, Quixote, and Protests at a good discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar View Post
    think that reverse on the stock MVP would be a great shape for a west coast ski.
    X2, I asked him about this one time and he was pretty keen to do it (not the limited run, just making someone a reverse camber MVP). I ended up going a different direction but still very much want one. Agree that best (cheapest) way is during the spring pre sale, camber options are included in the high end price
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