Electric Bike Thread

[skaredshtles]

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To your point though, eventually these things will be powered to the extent they will certainly create the same impact as gas powered motos

That shit is already available... and has been, actually, for quite some time.

[Redsmurfer]

^^^yes they are, but they look a bit out of place now but will soon be pretty indistinguishable, and their price point will soon be way lower. I know we are slow but the three people on here that defend the electric mopeds must be fucking geniuses. Must be nice to live in a rural area with seasonal riding, low population, and lots of space. We all have a frame of reference. Us educated urban folks just see future trends sooner then you rural humans. Do I hear banjo's in the background?

[Iwantmy2dollars]

You guys have been busy while I was gone.

Funny how we have 350 million firearms circulating with half the states having no restrictions owing to the whole Slippery Slope mentality.

Tens of thousands emtb arrive and the same logic is used to vilify them. It's a little weird

[swissiphic]

Love the e bike stuff...emoped or e assist. Gonna make awesome stock material for the e assist ski touring skinning mod. Pull hub drive wheel off bike, attach to linkage system mounted to ski top sheets.

https://www.armure.ch/IMAGES/WM/JTL2.gif

[Iwantmy2dollars]

Love the e bike stuff...emoped or e assist. Gonna make awesome stock material for the e assist ski touring skinning mod. Pull hub drive wheel off bike, attach to linkage system mounted to ski top sheets.

https://www.armure.ch/IMAGES/WM/JTL2.gif

We're gonna need a bigger battery!

[Bunion 2020]

You guys have been busy while I was gone.

Funny how we have 350 million firearms circulating with half the states having no restrictions owing to the whole Slippery Slope mentality.

Tens of thousands emtb arrive and the same logic is used to vilify them. It's a little weird

Don't dislocate your shoulder with that extremely looooooong reach. Show me where in the Constitution that Bicycles are ever mentioned.

[swissiphic]

We're gonna need a bigger battery!

Tesla Powerwall should be sufficient.

[Iwantmy2dollars]

Tesla Powerwall should be sufficient.

That's awesome!

[grinch]

Love the e bike stuff...emoped or e assist. Gonna make awesome stock material for the e assist ski touring skinning mod. Pull hub drive wheel off bike, attach to linkage system mounted to ski top sheets.

https://www.armure.ch/IMAGES/WM/JTL2.gif

Someone makes a track type thing like a narrow sled track that fits on in place of the rear wheel. I have to use mine fpr some type of approach. I was thinking mt rev but most likely itll be spring

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[swissiphic]

Someone makes a track type thing like a narrow sled track that fits on in place of the rear wheel. I have to use mine fpr some type of approach. I was thinking mt rev but most likely itll be spring

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E bike hub drive of this unit and a guy could prolly make it up the mcrae road and trail for a good ways if snow condischions were right?

[sb]

Can Eski be far behind?

Tesla Eskins?

[Telemarketeer]

I rocked my Efatty bike up a 45º embankment outside the bar the other night in 6 inches of fresh using throttle. Pretty sure I'm headed to the high alpine asap. Actually, there are some fire roads around here that see decent enough traffic that I can definitely make it up under the right conditions. Need a ski rack of some sort for the bike though. Screw riding with them on my back.

[sb]

[Telemarketeer]

Seen that, cool concept, but a little overkill, and way to pricey iirc. (also, where's the pedals? do tech toes clip into them? haha) I'm thinking voile straps and maybe some PVC. Maybe I could chop the toes off a pair of old AT boots and drill them to a 2x4

[sb]

Yeah, just an idea.

This one might be a bit more practical.



Or just put all the stuff in a drag behind sled.

[sb]

www.skipulk.com has a fat bike seat post bar that clamps and ties into a tow system for a sled.

https://www.skipulk.com/product/fat-bike-pulk-hitch/

Or if you had a rear rack just attach it to that.

[gravitylover]

Made in VT. The linkage is made by FTW.

[sb]

Nice review of a Schwinn Sidewinder from Wallywurld.

Might be a nice first Ebike for some.

[kidwoo]

Let the games begin........

PUBLIC LANDS
Outdoor groups launch legal campaign against e-bikes

Rob Hotakainen, E&E News reporter
Published: Thursday, October 24, 2019

Outdoor groups in California sued the Forest Service yesterday in an attempt to block a plan that would permit electric bikes on nonmotorized trails in Tahoe National Forest.


https://www.eenews.net/assets/2019/1...ment_gw_04.pdf

[skaredshtles]

Let the games begin........

PUBLIC LANDS
Outdoor groups launch legal campaign against e-bikes

Rob Hotakainen, E&E News reporter
Published: Thursday, October 24, 2019

Outdoor groups in California sued the Forest Service yesterday in an attempt to block a plan that would permit electric bikes on nonmotorized trails in Tahoe National Forest.


https://www.eenews.net/assets/2019/1...ment_gw_04.pdf

Ahhh... good ol' BCHA. I'm keeping my eye on those slippery bastids...

[kidwoo]

One of them is a 'trails' group that has some mountainbiker groups as partners.

Bicyclists of Nevada County and Nevada County Woods Riders.

Those people can eat a dick.

[splat]

The solution is one way trails.

All downhill.

[grinch]

A shit ton of headaches over fack all. Class 1 is fkn harmless. Someone breaking those rules ,and takes someone out , they pay the price. Pretty ez. They break the rules and fuck someone up they would be charged. Same as on a ski hill when youre unsafe and take someone out

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[grinch]

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[Bunion 2020]

bozemandailychronicle.com
E-bikes don't belong on all public trails
By David Tucker Guest columnist


On our public lands, motorized electric bicycles (e-bikes) should be managed for what they are: motorized vehicles. This is not to say that the Southwest Montana Mountain Bike Association (SWMMBA) opposes electric motorized bicycles. Indeed, many of our members own and ride e-bikes, but on motorized trails, of which there are many.

This became an issue in late August when Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt issued an order calling for increased recreational opportunities for e-bikes. This order directed all Interior land-management agencies to allow e-bikes on any trail where traditional bikes are allowed, notably in National Parks and on Bureau of Land Management land, such as Copper City.

According to the order, motorized e-bikes should be granted access to those non-motorized trails, paths, and roads that are open to bicycles, but closed to vehicles, and the agencies were tasked with developing new management guidelines for enforcement. Immediately, the order was met with opposition—and a great deal of confusion.
Thank you for reading!

While the order appeared to call for increased access, many mountain bikers held their breath, anticipating a backlash. They realized that their access was in fact under threat.

While that sounds counter-intuitive, consider the history of public-lands management and mountain-bike access in southwest Montana. Here, being associated with motorized recreation has been bad for human-powered cycling access. Most trails on public land in Montana are managed by the Forest Service, an agency not included in the directive because it is a division of the Department of Agriculture, but relevant nonetheless because of past management decisions related to mountain biking.

Time and again, mountain bikers have lost access to non-motorized Forest Service trail, and where they do enjoy access, they have had to struggle for the privilege. Advocates have spent nearly 40 years and a great deal of time and energy maintaining this access, often citing the human-powered nature of mountain bikes as a reason for inclusion on non-motorized trail. Indeed, mountain bikes do not have motors, so this argument makes sense.

The DOI order further complicates management, drawing a closer association between human-powered mountain bikes and motorized e-bikes, a link that threatens all mountain-bike access to Montana’s federally managed public land. (In a press release following the DOI order, Region 1 of the Forest Service issued a statement defining e-bikes as motorized vehicles.)

For this reason, SWMMBA has concluded that motorized e-bikes should be managed as motorized vehicles. While there are different classes of e-bikes, all with slightly different technology at work, one thing is common across all models—they all have motors. Motorized vehicles gaining access to non-motorized trail is dangerous for mountain bikers because if and when the Forest Service is forced to grapple with e-bike management, the agency could remove mountain bikers from all non-motorized trails, theoretically to streamline management.

Furthermore, e-bike-management decisions should be based on process, and decisions regarding their future use should be tied to the travel-planning process. Because the DOI issued this top-down order from Washington, D.C., the public was not involved and was not given an opportunity to comment. Also, the DOI did not conduct proper scientific studies of e-bike impacts on recreation resources or on wildlife. Consequently, we do not have enough information at our disposal to make sweeping conclusions about this new technology, how it should be managed, and how that management should be implemented.

Again, SWMMBA is not against e-bikes. Appropriate opportunities for e-bike recreation already exist, and we look forward to expanding that opportunity with future trail projects. Of the seven Forest Service trailheads on the west side of the Bridger Mountains, five are already accessible to e-bikes. However, e-bike access to non-motorized trail could undo decades of advocacy work. SWMMBA’s mission includes advocating for human-powered cycling, therefore we would be acting counter to our mission if we did anything other than oppose e-bike access to non-motorized trail.

For now, SWMMBA will continue to advocate for human-powered mountain biking, and encourage e-biking on motorized trails across our public lands.

David Tucker represents the Southwest Montana Mountain Bike Association.

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